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# 1

2008-12-06, 13:49
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My dillema with fallout 3
I've NEVER gotten into the oblivion series. I'm just not an RPG person. but I bought Fallout 3 because, well, I have the time and I was going to make myself play an rpg.
I love it. It's fun. it's awesome. and it's huge.
I started out like any normal gamer would, playing nice. good karma, etc. but that is just too boring for me! is it worth it to play just a bad guy? killing people, lying, stealing, etc.? I'm sure I can play this thru again with different experiences, but still.
What do you guys prefer?
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# 2

2008-12-06, 14:22
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
I normally play as an evil character when given the choice, but in Fallout 3, on my first playthrough at least, I couldn't bring myself to. It's probably because the things you can do in the game are truly despicable. I mean, blowing up an entire fucking town and killing everyone in it is some pretty heinous shit.
It's like, the inhabitants of the game are already in a terrible situation, it's just a really harsh world. Even though it's just a game it's kind of hard to bring yourself to the point where you're doing things to make life even worse for them.
Because of this, I ended up playing the game with the mentality that every choice that came up, I'd decide what to do based on my real life moral compass, making the decision I feel I would have made had I actually been in the situation. As much as an asshole I think I am, I don't have the heart to blow up entire cities or sell people into slavery.
Of course, I'll probably play it again and be an absolute bastard, but hey, that's just for replay value right  ?
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# 3

2008-12-06, 14:34
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My momma's uterus.
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
Despite the fact that I`m an asshole irl, I always play as a good character in video games when given the choice. Probably the biggest reason for this is the difficulty. In most games, being goody two-shoes makes things a lot more difficult.
I must`ve played atleast 15 times through each KOTOR game and I always ended up going to the light side.
You should`ve made this thread about good/bad scenarios in RPGs instead of it just being about Fallout 3.
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# 4

2008-12-06, 15:29
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
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Originally Posted by XeNobiTe
Probably the biggest reason for this is the difficulty. In most games, being goody two-shoes makes things a lot more difficult.
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That's changed recently.
In Bioshock you end up getting more rewards for being a good character.
In Fallout 3, people literally run up to you and give you free shit for being such a nice dude.
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# 5

2008-12-06, 15:38
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
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Originally Posted by OpiateSeclorum868
That's changed recently.
In Bioshock you end up getting more rewards for being a good character.
In Fallout 3, people literally run up to you and give you free shit for being such a nice dude.
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I fucking KNEW you'd quote him! Haha
Yeah I was supprised when I was playing bioshock, on my first run I struggled because I decided harvesting might be my best bet. Then when I played it on Hard I tried to get the 'Little Sister Saviour' trophy and ended up having an easier time and having almost all of the good plasmids.
Edit: Is Fallout 3 worth getting? I've ran out of games to play and GT5 looks a long time off.
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# 6

2008-12-06, 15:57
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
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Originally Posted by The Chip Shop Guy
Edit: Is Fallout 3 worth getting?
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If you're looking for a medium length, open-world RPG oozing with atmosphere, absolutely.
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# 7

2008-12-06, 16:14
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My momma's uterus.
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
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Originally Posted by OpiateSeclorum868
In Fallout 3, people literally run up to you and give you free shit for being such a nice dude.
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That stupid black woman in Megaton is starting to piss me off. Every time I enter Megaton I get a cap or some other useless crap from her.
Being a dick generally gives better loot too, cause the good people in the game often carry nice stuff.
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# 8

2008-12-06, 16:53
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
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Originally Posted by XeNobiTe
That stupid black woman in Megaton is starting to piss me off.
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You should probably blow up the town, get rid of that bitch and everyone she knows.
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# 9

2008-12-06, 17:37
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
I actually had a hard time turning away from the kid whos father got killed by the Fireants. I know it isnt very far in the game, and not very important, but still. that was a deep emotional decision, but I still didn't want to face those fucking fireants.
Too bad i still have to.
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Originally Posted by XeNobiTe
You should`ve made this thread about good/bad scenarios in RPGs instead of it just being about Fallout 3.
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you're right..... fuck.
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# 10

2008-12-06, 17:55
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My momma's uterus.
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
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Originally Posted by OpiateSeclorum868
You should probably blow up the town, get rid of that bitch and everyone she knows.
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No. For some reason I'm always a super nice guy in video games.
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#11
 2008-12-06, 21:40
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Dream of the iris 
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
I blew up Megaton just for the sheer thrill of seeing a nuclear bomb go off. :D
When I went to the slaver town, Paradise Falls, everyone thought I was a legend. I was really bad. But, towards the end I got my Karma level up to "very good", so really you can always go back.
FYI once you discover Fawkes and if your Karma level is high enough, use him and go massacre everyone in paradise falls and free the slaves. :)
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#12
 2008-12-07, 04:26
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Professor Poopypants 
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
I try not to choose good or bad. I don't go around killing innocents or insulting everyone I come across, on the other hand I'd steal a bunch of hydroponic vegetables that could very well setback Rivet City a couple of years.
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#13
 2008-12-07, 05:17
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
When given the choice I play based on my moral compass the first time through. Which makes me a fairly nutural character. For the most part I was a good character in the quests but, I usually end up stealin from everyone. I stole from the donation basket in the church in Rivet City.
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#14
 2008-12-07, 07:13
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
My dilemma with FA3 is the retarded save system.
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#15
 2008-12-07, 08:01
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
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Originally Posted by alexander224
My dilemma with FA3 is the retarded save system.
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What in the fucking stapler do you mean by retarded save system? You seem pretty narrow minded if you deem anything different as inferior.
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#16
 2008-12-07, 08:04
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XeNobiTe 
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
What in the fucking stapler do you mean by retarded save system? You seem pretty narrow minded if you deem anything different as inferior.
Never mind him. He`s an absolute idiot.
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#17
 2008-12-07, 08:07
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
Never mind him. He`s an absolute idiot.
Yeah, I noticed that. Hows the beemer?
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#18
 2008-12-07, 08:12
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XeNobiTe 
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
Yeah, I noticed that. Hows the beemer?
Like a block of ice running down the butt crack of a 19 year old slut. I`m one satisfied customer.
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#19
 2008-12-07, 16:09
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Sonofjango615 
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
Like a block of ice running down the butt crack of a 19 year old slut.
so, Xeno, I'm gonna use that from now on. If I can have your permission.
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#20
 2008-12-07, 17:05
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
What in the fucking stapler do you mean by retarded save system? You seem pretty narrow minded if you deem anything different as inferior.
Autosave when you walk in a house? Whats the point?
edit: and fuck you snoopy.
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#21
 2008-12-07, 18:47
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
I normally play as an evil character when given the choice, but in Fallout 3, on my first playthrough at least, I couldn't bring myself to. It's probably because the things you can do in the game are truly despicable. I mean, blowing up an entire fucking town and killing everyone in it is some pretty heinous shit.
I accidentally disarmed the bomb while fooling around with it, so I reloaded my savefile, went online to find out where to get the thing I needed to blow up the town, and then I did it.
It was a really awesome explosion. How can you say you enjoy being "evil" if you have such qualms with nuking a shitty little town?
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#22
 2008-12-07, 20:06
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Moderator
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Facedown in the shag rug.
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
Just make sure you get the bobblehead outta the sheriff's house before you nuke the place.
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#23
 2008-12-07, 20:21
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
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Originally Posted by ThetaReactor
Just make sure you get the bobblehead outta the sheriff's house before you nuke the place.
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This. Also, it's not a bad idea to do the minor quest involving Leo Stahl (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Stahl%27s_addiction). You get a pretty nice reward considering the 'quest' is basically just a speech check. I have yet to go to Megaton on my 'evil' save, so I dunno if you can just kill him and take his key, but I don't see why you shouldn't be able to..
Other than that, Megaton is mostly useless. I mean, you can make good money selling scrap metal to the guy at the processing plant, but odds are good that he'll end up disappearing/dying anyway at some point.
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#24
 2008-12-08, 02:55
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wallstreetshuffle 
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
Dunno if I should play fall out 3...I really like the idea of the game, but I watched some gameplay and its kinda..i dunno doesnt appeal, but I did love oblivion.
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#25
 2008-12-08, 03:20
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
The great thing about fallout games was that you could do all kinds of crazy shit and still progress the game.
Try setting your intelligence to some ridiculously low number and going through the game as a retard. That's always fun.
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#26
 2008-12-08, 03:36
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lan_rogers_book 
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
I laughed when I blew up megaton and that shop owner chick was all zombie/mutant-y.
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#27
 2008-12-08, 03:36
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
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Originally Posted by wallstreetshuffle
Dunno if I should play fall out 3...I really like the idea of the game, but I watched some gameplay and its kinda..i dunno doesnt appeal, but I did love oblivion.
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Get it.
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#28
 2008-12-08, 08:09
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
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Originally Posted by lan_rogers_book
I laughed when I blew up megaton and that shop owner chick was all zombie/mutant-y.
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I thought that it was yet another bug that was the reason my quest was still active. Kinda wasn't expecting to see her as a ghoul when I checked out Megaton.
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#29
 2008-12-08, 11:55
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Facedown in the shag rug.
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
I have a spiffy fedora, a flaming sword, and hand grenades made out of radioactive soft drinks.
How could I not love this? For every moment I think, "Bethesda didn't quite get this aspect," there are fifty that I go, "Fuck yeah, suck my laser." I sometimes think maybe I'm playing System Shock 2 when my sniper rifle breaks again, but then the game crashes and I remember it's a Bethesda product. *shrugs*
I'm playing my standard Fallout character right now. Sneaky crack-shot bastard who'll rescue your kitty while robbing you blind. Next one is gonna be an absolutely evil brute with a minigun and a Fat Man, I think.
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#30
 2008-12-08, 12:41
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
I started my character out as good, but accidentally went on a rampage in Megaton, so I've given up on karma. My main stats are small guns and medicine. But I'm barely like level 8 or nine I think.
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#31
 2008-12-08, 15:21
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
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Originally Posted by alexander224
I started my character out as good, but accidentally went on a rampage in Megaton, so I've given up on karma. My main stats are small guns and medicine. But I'm barely like level 8 or nine I think.
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Lawl. "I accidentally killed everyone in the town."
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#32
 2008-12-08, 15:24
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XeNobiTe 
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
Lawl. "I accidentally killed everyone in the town."
He didn't save his game. That's what happens when you only use the autosave feature. It's only a failsafe moron. Learn how to make separate save files. It's really not that hard.
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#33
 2008-12-08, 21:45
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
I'm always evil. For the shits'n'giggles I think mainly. That or I harbor some serious problems about people.
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#34
 2008-12-09, 02:33
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
He didn't save his game. That's what happens when you only use the autosave feature. It's only a failsafe moron. Learn how to make separate save files. It's really not that hard.
Thanks for the tip man.
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#35
 2008-12-09, 23:34
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jator 
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
Autosave when you walk in a house? Whats the point?
edit: and fuck you snoopy.
You know you can turn that off right?
It's an awsome game, I played through it as an evil char because I am badass and do not give a fuck about video game people.
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#36
 2008-12-10, 04:43
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
I'm doing as evil of a path as possible (still taking it slow, doing everything I can).
Things I did
blew up Megaton
sell people into slavery
murder every good character
pickpocket bad characters
after trading with a random caravan, kill them.
and more. Steal everything I saw too, even if it meant just dropping it for the karma.
There are lots of people who shoot you for no reason, 3dog (radio guy) loves to insult you as well. My character is very rich (over 10,000 caps), have 2 followers (dogmeat and guy from ninth circle).
I love it as you can do anything and not worry about it.... I hear the most challenging path is to stay neutral.
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#37
 2008-12-10, 07:28
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
I didn't play it very long, but I did some bad shit. I blew up Megaton, and I helped some scavenger kill two slavers (or Reapers, or whatever), then I saw all the stuff she had, so I killed her.
Lulz.
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#38
 2008-12-18, 03:00
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wattsmf 
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
I just completed the game. Level 20; small guns, medicine, speech, sneak, repair, science were at 100, i think. Go to weapons were the Lincoln Repeater, which is awesome, and the Reservist's Rifle. Had a great time with it.
I'm gonna make a melee character maybe with Big Guns as well. Shiskebob = hellz yeah. Who else used melee?
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#39
 2008-12-18, 03:06
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
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Originally Posted by wattsmf
I just completed the game. Level 20; small guns, medicine, speech, sneak, repair, science were at 100, i think. Go to weapons were the Lincoln Repeater, which is awesome, and the Reservist's Rifle. Had a great time with it.
I'm gonna make a melee character maybe with Big Guns as well. Shiskebob = hellz yeah. Who else used melee?
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My character had 100 in energy weapons, small guns, speech and lockpick and it worked out great.
I mainly used the plasma rifle my first run through.
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#40
 2008-12-18, 07:57
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
I always play as a good character, but nothing will ever stop me from stealing absolutely everything from anyone.
On a side note, why the fuck can't i sell my shit for what it's worth even though my barter skill is 100, and i wear a rover outfit and button's wigg?
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#41
 2008-12-18, 09:00
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
This game is a fucking joke.
I finally decided to -- for some god forsaken reason -- borrow it from a kid down the hall in my dorm and install it/crack it, and it's even worse than I previously expected. My roommate and I were trying to see who could beat the game first (which, in hindsight, was a terrible idea because the main quest is TERRIBLE) but we both just stopped playing after level 12 or so because the game sucks. The following bullet points properly illustrate why the game sucks:
-Terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible dialogue, I'm forced to skip it at every turn because it'll likely make me sick. The checks are some of the most self-evident things I've ever seen, [I]especially when your character is talking to the guy that runs the radio station. That was just sad. It went something like:
Guy: I'm fighting the good fight for mankind.
You: [intelligence] Ah, I see, so you're basically fighting the good fight?
Good god.
-The mainquest is the most nonsensical piece of garbage I've ever seen. Bethesda should have spent less money on famous people (like usual) to do voice acting and more time on hiring professional writers that can make a story coherent.
-The SPECIAL system is completely fucked now, especially since Intelligence is now by far the best stat in the entire game. Perception isn't all that useful in comparison to everything else, especially since it has nothing to do with the ability to aim at long distances. The bases for health and carry weight are too high, and make endurance and strength not as useful as they should be.
-It's waaaaaaaaaaaay too easy to max skills in this game, especially since intelligence is basically godlike now. Having them cap at 100 and having little bobble heads all around the game that add +10 to a skill is ridiculous.
-Most interiors don't even respawn
-Terrible gun variety -- when the game lists "examples" of the guns that you might find under a certain category, that's not just an example...That's every single gun for that specific skill.
-The game is criminally easy even on Very Hard
-The game is pretty damn gimmicky in general (Church of the Atom, the "vampires", etc)
-VATS is a form of godmode/has a lame slow-mo camera after each kill.
Admittedly, the game is pretty addictive at first, but all the sudden (just like Oblivion) you just realize how mindlessly vapid it is.
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#42
 2008-12-18, 17:55
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the Faction 
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Re: My dillema with fallout 3
When playing games like this, you gotta put yourself in the shoes of the character. This game is set in a post apocalyptic world where it's kill or be killed. People try to fight the good fight, but they end up getting the shit tortured out of them and everyone they care about.
Think about what's in your best interest. Kill what you have to.
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