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Network (in)Security Interesting hacks and cracks. Info on firewalls, TCP/IP, encryption, networks, and security. The ins and outs of the phone system, caller services, how things work, what's illegal and what's not, cellular phones, beepers, telephony legislation, the PUC, ISDN, taps, who's listening, and switches. Talking about phones, hacking systems, technical advice, and such is completely LEGAL in the United States -- it's covered by the First Amendment. What's illegal is conspiracy to commit a crime. So if you say something like "Meet me at 2am so we can crack a can" or "I changed my cell phone's number myself" you are criminally liable. Stating "You can crack a can by doing thus-and-so" or "If you wanted to change a cell phone's number, you could do it like so" is perfectly OK. Posting passwords, calling card numbers, or credit card numbers is forbidden on this network. Posting such info will get you booted off the net.

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Old 2008-12-05, 00:31
Ed Lister Ed Lister is offline
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Default Pinpointing Physical Location of Internet Leach

Okay, so someone has been leaching net access off a friend's unsecured wireless internet access. It is a laptop connected to the internet by a USB dongle that is provided by a mobile network. Don't tell me how stupid they are, I already told them. They usually live in the country so it isn't a problem however she has been staying at a hotel like place in the city. The latest bill has come in at ~$600 without any excessive usage on her part so obviously one (or more) people in the same building have been connecting to her.

Now, I know I can install a program and see who is connected and the data packets being transferred at any one point - my question is - is there any way I pinpoint their physical location?

Failing this, how can I send them some sort of warning?

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Old 2008-12-05, 00:35
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You could get two or three buddies and triangulate them. But that's a huge bitch. It'd be easier to run that program that got demo'd at DEFCON a year or so back that changed wireless streams live, and replace every picture with goatse.
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Old 2008-12-05, 01:42
ThunderChicken ThunderChicken is offline
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Default Re: Pinpointing Physical Location of Internet Leach

Get some kind of packet sniffer and log there traffic. If you happen to get web accounts go in fuck them up and leave a message. Then do the above. lol
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Old 2008-12-05, 02:58
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Default Re: Pinpointing Physical Location of Internet Leach

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Originally Posted by ThunderChicken
Get some kind of packet sniffer and log there traffic. If you happen to get web accounts go in fuck them up and leave a message. Then do the above. lol


If I was some normal person, and logged into my myspace or something and saw "Quit leeching off my badwith asshat, next time, you wont have a computer to do it with" I'd literally shit my pants, and never leech off that person again.
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Old 2008-12-05, 03:15
trippson trippson is offline
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Default Re: Pinpointing Physical Location of Internet Leach

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Originally Posted by Prometheum
You could get two or three buddies and triangulate them. But that's a huge bitch. It'd be easier to run that program that got demo'd at DEFCON a year or so back that changed wireless streams live, and replace every picture with goatse.


Yeah, its called airpwn. But honestly I think it would be easier just to use ettercap running a filter set to replace all images.:D
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Old 2008-12-05, 09:05
xarf xarf is offline
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Default Re: Pinpointing Physical Location of Internet Leach

How would it stop the original packet from getting through? Like, where would one install such a program so that it can intercept and control all the packets?
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Old 2008-12-06, 02:15
ChrisVickers ChrisVickers is offline
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Default Re: Pinpointing Physical Location of Internet Leach

You're going to have to explain a bit more how her connection is set up.

So she has a laptop with a 3G dongle so she can use the phone network?

How is this person connecting to get her laptop if its a dongle?
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Old 2008-12-06, 02:41
Chupacabre Chupacabre is offline
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Default Re: Pinpointing Physical Location of Internet Leach

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You're going to have to explain a bit more how her connection is set up.

So she has a laptop with a 3G dongle so she can use the phone network?

How is this person connecting to get her laptop if its a dongle?


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