Upscale establishments are the best place to be a bartender, numbnuts. Rich clients not only tip as the norm, but they tip well.


Rich people are actually notrious for being lousy tippers. Of course it probably depends on the situation and environment. You'd probably make out really well if the tip is part of the bill, but if not don't get mad when you get really shitty tips.

Rich people are actually notrious for being lousy tippers. Of course it probably depends on the situation and environment. You'd probably make out really well if the tip is part of the bill, but if not don't get mad when you get really shitty tips.

Where the hell are you guys getting this from? Is it some deep-seated anger/prejudice against rich people? Most any adult with class (ie. the majority of people in an upscale hotel) will tip, and they'll tip well. Most rich people aren't misers, but in fact, very loose with their money.

Where the hell are you guys getting this from? Is it some deep-seated anger/prejudice against rich people? Most any adult with class (ie. the majority of people in an upscale hotel) will tip, and they'll tip well. Most rich people aren't misers, but in fact, very loose with their money.
You've obviously never worked in an environment where tips are expected but that's populated by rich people. They are NOT good tippers.

Lots of money does NOT equal lots of class. Having worked two jobs where tips were expected I'd say the lower 20% easily tips more than the upper 20%.

You've obviously never worked in an environment where tips are expected but that's populated by rich people. They are NOT good tippers.

Lots of money does NOT equal lots of class. Having worked two jobs where tips were expected I'd say the lower 20% easily tips more than the upper 20%.

Well, are you talking about a bar, or a restaurant?

In a restaurant, people are going to tip you the traditional 15-20%, regardless of how much they make. They'll tip based on how well you served them and how much work they think you did. (ie. if you just served a couple, then expecting a huge tip is unreasonable on your part).

In an upscale bar? If you're serving people at the bar and serving them well, they're going to tip you, and it's going to be more than 1-2 dollars that a lower/middle class person would do. Maybe a bunch of drunk businessmen won't, but a person with some class? Definitely.

I will say that rich people tend to be more scrutinous of service. Whereas the average Joe tips on principal, a rich person tips based on what you deserve. Something to keep in mind. If you expect more than just a buck or two, then your service needs to be worth more than that.

EDIT: Yeah, in fact...it probably is something to do with differing attitudes on the purpose of a tip. Rich people seem to view a tip as a reward for a job well done, whereas average people see it as something they have to do so that they don't look like assholes. A rich person is going to be objective about it, whereas my guess is that an average person would just do it in an attempt to please you. So, my point is, you have potential to get lots of money out of rich people versus average/poor people. Logically, tipping habits are going to be influenced by your own service...it would make more sense to focus on that rather than generalizing how people tip.

Oh, by the way: If you are working in a place with both lower class and upper class people, then it's probably not really an "upscale bar".

All this coming from the guy who dropped $300 for a class and hasn't found a job yet...

Take that for what you will.

I've been a bartender, bouncer, and manager at a local joint, and this thread pops up from time to time. Best way to learn, as has been stated, is to get your foot in the door, however that may be (I started out barbacking before I started pouring drinks), and make sure you learn from those around you. It's not difficult to learn, but it can be very difficult to master.

Last thing I'll say is that don't expect it to be a party. It's goddamn WORK some nights, because you're not there for a good time, you're there to cater to everyone else's good time. I've seen lots of people come and go thinking it's one big party, only to get canned inside of two weeks because they found out differently.

If you find the right gig, though, it can be a helluva lot of fun and damn rewarding both financially and in the fact that customers are very tangible things to judge your performance on; if you did well, they'll tip well, compliment you, and be back for another visit. If not, you'll never see them again.

All this coming from the guy who dropped $300 for a class and hasn't found a job yet...

Take that for what you will. My take, having been a bartender, bouncer, and manager at a local joint is a little different, so I think I'll save it, lest I step on too many precious toes.

I think "local joint" (in Wyoming, of all places) is the operative phrase. I'm talking about things along the lines of a 5-star hotel, where it's a nonstop pampering fest.

I think "local joint" (in Wyoming, of all places) is the operative phrase. I'm talking about things along the lines of a 5-star hotel, where it's a nonstop pampering fest.

Perhaps, but I've also done the work, my friend. Thus far, you've not. Running your mouth without the experience, regardless of what lines you were thinking along, is still being an internet wanker.

From what my friends who worked in that arena of restauranting/bartending have told me, neither extreme is accurate. Currently, my uncle owns two four star restaurants in Tulsa, and he has told me that gratuity comes in all kinds, regardless of your clientèle. Affluence, at least according to my (admittedly purely anecdotal evidence provided by) my few acquaintances and by my uncle (who was the head sommelier prior to being the head manager at the America Restaurant in Kansas City, MO, a five star joint, and now the owner of two four star joints in Tulsa) in that arena, doesn't equal an affinity for leaving high gratuity, nor does it disqualify them from doing so.

However, no one will be starting at a 5 star hotel as their first bartending gig, so I think our argument here might very well be immaterial.

The bartender school will be useless to you without experience. Almost anybody can mix drinks, but not everybody can multitask or remember a wide variety of drinks on the level necessary to serve in an effective manner.

School can be a starting place, but you need to find experience. Good luck.

Generally speaking, the best way to be a bartender, is to be a really hot 25 year old woman.

I've learned this lesson a whole bunch of times, because a bunch of my friends always have parties and charge $5 for a cup to drink from the keg(s) all night, and also have a cash bar. I always insist on manning the bar, just because I like doing it, and it's a good way to meet cool people. Sometimes I make a couple dollars in tips, but whenever my friend mary (a very hot 25 year old woman) takes over on the bar, she will get tipped all the time, and sell like twice as many drinks as I do.

You're comparing a crappy house party to a bartending gig?

Heh.

Never mind, I'm being obnoxious. Regardless of the setting, yes, attractive females tend to sell more drinks and get better tips. That shouldn't discourage anyone else from trying, though.

eggs: I took a 300 dollar course last winter. .
and that kids is how you skullfuck a nigger

Mexican Banquets, is where the money is. Work for a hall, even if you don't get great tips, you still get a nice cut from the hall, this also includes weddings and shit.

and that kids is how you skullfuck a nigger

LOL

women dont make very good bartenders, it's a very violent, mean environment you wouldn't know what to do when someone started threatening to jump behind the counter and beat your head in. you'd just start crying and get your head beat in.

LOL

women dont make very good bartenders, it's a very violent, mean environment you wouldn't know what to do when someone started threatening to jump behind the counter and beat your head in. you'd just start crying and get your head beat in.

Because clearly there's no staff in any bar present to keep that from happening, and all women are so weak that they can't deal with some drunken asshat.

Uh, yeah, 99 percent women are weak when it comes to controlling drunk men. She's gonna end up like that police officer that got beat up by the black guy on youtube, just in the wrong job at the wrong time (which is 24.7).

and most staff at bars can't even control fights.

You must be going to some real dives. The staff I trained when I was the head bouncer were quite qualified to deal with fights, and fights themselves were few and far between, and certainly didn't last long. Sounds like some of the joints I used to see when I was running around with some of my old rodeo cowboy friends.

I'm not even going to comment on your misogynistic comments, other than to state that I highly disagree. Given your short posting history, though, I'm speculating that you're just trying to get a rise out of us, i.e., trolling, and I would encourage you to stop if that's the case.

Why are you so out of touch with reality?

Titties will bring em in, either way.

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