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Old 2008-12-02, 20:17
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So this stuff is lot more gentler than I imagined. Let me say that for starters. I inhaled around 3 mg's (around 3, because of this shitty scale from ebay I got for 40 dollars, spend the money for a nice scale if you really want to know what you're taking) using the chasing the dragon method.

I didn't do it all at once, because that could potentially burn it all up and melt it into burning plasticy nasty shit. So in little clumps (because this stuff has a mind of it's own when you're trying to prepare it, it sticks to random things, randomly explodes onto the sides of the container due to static electricity (an entirely different story with this shit and the way it reacts to that, and how my scale actually came with a statically charged lid that continuously warped the internals of the scale causing the measurements to never be the same), etc.

So basically, carefully vaporizing this stuff in little piles at around 2:12. I sat for a little bit and began to get cold sweats and generally like, but not like where this was really going.

So I took a shower, which turned into a bath, which in turn felt like I was rolling on ecstasy. The cold is your enemy on this, it's like E in those regards.

The first of the visuals (I didn't get "visuals" with this low dose, just the beginnings) I barely got any affects, and definitely didn't go above a plus 1 trip, if it even got to 1) are that everything is detectably "brighter". Brighter in the sense that you kind of feel like you're dreaming, your mind feels a little like that too, unleashing everything from the surface (notice I say surface) what your imagination has been pondering about for the past 2 days.

So everything's brighter, and then, from what I think this was going towards, everything begins to vibrate and rotate about it's own axis in a spiraling fashion, within it's own section of your vision, while you yourself do this.

So everything get's pretty whirly (on the higher doses....) and I wouldn't recommend eating a lot anytime around this.

Mental giddyness is the only way to explain the mind effects. It's like I'm reduced to seeing everything in a very carefree and expressive field of vision. Nothing really matters, unless it has to, in which case I'm fully prepared to use my brain to the full extend of it's capacity (and beyond) in order to deal with the problem.

It's definitely a stimulant, definitely a noo-tropic (brain enhancer), definitely like E. it has visuals but I can't really comment on them because I didn't get to that level yet, this was a first try. Very happy with the results.

If you've read about the muscle tension and tremors like I did, they are here as well. And they're nice. They bring back the E qualities to the experience, like I'm in a good state of mind, my body's revved up to max, and I'm sweating balls and loving it.

Sweating feels good. Like I'm removing toxins.

Anyway. In order to stop rambling. I'll end this here. Not much of a report, but it's worth typing. Because it feels good. Everything feels good. I guess I just had to let BLTC know, 2 ct 7 is worth trying.

Sorry...for any confusions...typos...etc etc.
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Old 2008-12-03, 00:10
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I recently had the chance to taste this compound as well, and I would just like to say that I agree with every single thing you said, and bravo for finding such wonderful descriptive ways. It is a wonderful compound with a lot of potential.


After my initial research on the experience I was a little nervous, all kinds of bad trip bullshit going around, and while the body load makes its presence known, it is still very worth the effort.


And yes, I really noticed the nootropic aspect of it, it was much easier to express myself and find the words for whatever topic was at hand.


Makes me wonder about the legitimacy of the supposed 1-10mg daily as a nootropic.

My dosage so far has gone up to 30 mg, and it is so much more subtle than I thought.
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Old 2008-12-03, 00:39
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I never tried to smoke it when I had it, but I've snorted and orally taken it many times. Be careful the more you up your dosage, especially when snorting it which is a bad idea. It's always been a heaven/hell experience for me. I snorted 40mgs once and I learned my lesson. I did a write up about intranasal and oral use, but it's quite conceited.

Here it is, if you want a to read it.
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Old 2008-12-03, 01:35
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Oh yeah, I meant to mention snorting. I did 7mg, and I have an iron fucking nasal cavity man. I snort 2C-E, and everyone else is crying and holding their face bitching, and I am fine. I read about the pain and figured it was just like 2C-E, just a bunch of pussies, but man, that shit RUINED my face. My nose, sinus cavity and EVERYTHING was inflamed as fuck, it made me puke, and the instant body load over rode any type of "trip", totally not fucking worth it. I will never ever snort that shit again, and Kink, you have got to be a fucking maniac to have enjoyed that.
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Old 2008-12-03, 04:39
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^ Thanks for the compliment, I felt I was letting the 2 ct 7 do the talking.


Abyssal Kink, what do you mean your hands grew with the hallucinations? Did a physical change take place?
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Old 2008-12-04, 17:07
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Oh yeah, I meant to mention snorting. I did 7mg, and I have an iron fucking nasal cavity man. I snort 2C-E, and everyone else is crying and holding their face bitching, and I am fine. I read about the pain and figured it was just like 2C-E, just a bunch of pussies, but man, that shit RUINED my face. My nose, sinus cavity and EVERYTHING was inflamed as fuck, it made me puke, and the instant body load over rode any type of "trip", totally not fucking worth it. I will never ever snort that shit again, and Kink, you have got to be a fucking maniac to have enjoyed that.
Snorting is my preferred way of ingestion. I've done it 20+ times with amounts ranging from 5-40mgs. The pain from snorting leaves within the first 20 minutes and then I'm just not able to even fucking move for the next 30-45 minutes because of the ungodly vertigo. If you want one hell of a trip without so much pain, try dosing up on about a 2nd plateau of DXM and railing about 5 mgs of T7. That is pure evil.


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^ Thanks for the compliment, I felt I was letting the 2 ct 7 do the talking.


Abyssal Kink, what do you mean your hands grew with the hallucinations? Did a physical change take place?
That's the scary part. They started filling with blood or some other fluid. It got really painful and scared the shit out of me. I ended up squeezing whatever it was out of my hands until they were fairly normal again and the rest just subsided on its own after I stopped looking at them.

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Old 2008-12-05, 00:14
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Then yes, you are a maniac. The pain stayed with me until even afterwards.



And I think my next ROA with this compound will be plugged. From it's effect on my stomach I think this is the best route. Fuck IV IM or snorting though, no way.
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Old 2008-12-05, 00:57
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one of my few ++++ experiences was with 2-ct-7...

get in the groove, well, you know what i mean..i'm kinda curious if opiates help the body load...


goes well with lsd too..
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Old 2008-12-05, 03:37
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I just dropped 5 mg's at 9:30 and 10 mg's and around 10:15.

Let's see how this goes... I've got another 10mg weighed out for after I see how it affects me.

I'm starting to get hot.

I wonder if plugging would avoid all the other nasty stuff.

From the reports on plugging it usually gives you a whole nother level of nasty.
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Old 2008-12-05, 05:43
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Wow.

Hahahahahahhaa.

I can't get past that. Pretty much. Wow.

Everything moves.

Everything shines and glimmers. My mind is that of a child, but simpler. : D

I see right and wrong in everything, heaven and hell. I'm floating through the heaven, and I just pushed the dagger attack of a demon from hell away. It was pretty crazy, and pretty visual. But I managed to come to a conclusion.

This stuff is intense. I can't type ... it's difficult..my fingers keep slipping and shaking their way off the keys...

My eyes are like saucer plates. Nice.

At first I thought it was just like E. Pure good. But


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

This stuff makes you THINK.

It puts the BRAIN to work.

My goodness.

I'll be back.

Alright. The awesome giddyness of it all makes it hard to do anything sober. I mean. I can do those things. It just isn't at all at the efficiency level of if I were sober. It's just gibberish and games, everything is, every task. Yet, I keep going to relevant and stable states of mind. Where I'll realize how fucked up I am, how I keep shaking, moving, and going off in my own world. Then I go back into a play mode and lose all focus.

Everything is taking part in this psychedelic haze, it's all got waves of colors over it, I can see things that I didn't notice before, like in the backgrounds of patterns and things.

I keep shaking. Alot. My whole body, in tremors, my legs especially. It's getting annoying, but not painful or anything. I can stare at the screen right now, where I'm typing and a bunch of flying things start coming out of the walls at me and bounce of everything and fly back.

When I take a deep breath, everything else does...

Ok.

Edit:2 God DAMN. It's very interesting. That's to say the least. Just watch the paranoid delusions with the higher doses. Right now I'm surfing hallucinations. Carry on...

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Old 2008-12-05, 06:12
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you just convinced me to try to get some

sounds wicked

and btw, you can totally tell you're fucked up right now. or were.
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you just convinced me to try to get some

sounds wicked

and btw, you can totally tell you're fucked up right now. or were.
You got me.

/me steadily trips off into the void
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Old 2008-12-05, 07:06
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUXBC...c-HM-fresh+div

This shit seems crazy. There' s asecret to this video.....

This guy . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw3FT...eature=related

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Lot's of jaw clenching. Lot's of meaning.\


Oh my god.

This shit goes way deeper than I ever expected. I have so much of it left, I don't know what I'm gonna do... I feel like a 12 year old ...

http://www.feedthehead.net/headInner.swf


Hmm. How's this for keeping up on how hard I'm tripping.

You know how you have an orgasm, and you can do things before, during, or DIRECTLY after to make it feel better, to kind of make it or break it. Like, certain things you can't do to make it a better moment, while certain other things always work. And there's only sometimes, with the right everything, person, place, timing, you can get the PERFECT ORGASM. Where you do everything right to the point where you're totally satisfied and can't even move afterwards, and only think of perfection.

I think that's what death is.

And i think living, to know this amongst the other things that make themselves hard to beknownce only to die happily when it's your time, IS THE PERFECT ORGASM!

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Old 2008-12-05, 08:29
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damn dude you are fuuuuuuuckked.

now I'm super jealous of you

and lulz at the very long edit.

but really man, you need to get outside, don't waste your shit of fucking totse..

but thank you for those mind opening posts, let's me know a little more about what it will be like..

also, ever feel like if you died right now you would keep on living? and be aware?
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Old 2008-12-05, 20:07
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I ended up taking 25 mg's in all. Half of what I would consider maximum. It was a good time.

I didn't go outside because it was too cold, I'll probably try to next time though.

"also, ever feel like if you died right now you would keep on living? and be aware? "

I think I always feel like that.
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Old 2008-12-05, 20:49
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yeah that always sucks when its wintertime and cold out... Imna be going to a place thats around 0 degrees, and that would suck balls to be outside..

sounds good...
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Old 2008-12-05, 22:24
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Then yes, you are a maniac. The pain stayed with me until even afterwards.



And I think my next ROA with this compound will be plugged. From it's effect on my stomach I think this is the best route. Fuck IV IM or snorting though, no way.
Eh, it was nothing compared to that acetone peroxide a few years back. A few of my friends had luck snorting numbing agents, but once you get past snorting the 20-30 mg level, it tends to stick with you afterwards. I really fucked my shit up after railing a good line and I could breathe right for a couple weeks. I think smoking it might be the way to go with this. It's just so volatile I'm not sure what else could be done with it without causing as much or more pain than snorting it. I would be so afraid to plug it.

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I ended up taking 25 mg's in all. Half of what I would consider maximum. It was a good time.

I didn't go outside because it was too cold, I'll probably try to next time though.

"also, ever feel like if you died right now you would keep on living? and be aware? "

I think I always feel like that.
It's much easier on your body if you take your whole dose at once. Once you start redosing, the nausea can come back tenfold and you'll be wheezing on your knees before you know what hit you.

You seriously should go outside. Tripping inside is nothing like the outdoors on this shit, especially at night. If you want an ungodly experience wait until it fogs up and go get lost in a forest at night. SCARIEST. SHIT. EVER. I locked myself out of my house even though I had my key in my door. lmao

You'll notice that there is a certain serenity that comes with the drug, but that's only after you deal with the trials at hand. After you get some more experience with it, you'll realize that beauty of it come from its ability to twist things into your darkest fears. I switched genders for about 4 hours because of this damn chemical which left me crying like a fucking baby holding the place that my testicles once resided.

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Old 2008-12-05, 23:41
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[quote=Abyssal Kink;10768770]Eh, it was nothing compared to that acetone peroxide a few years back. A few of my friends had luck snorting numbing agents, but once you get past snorting the 20-30 mg level, it tends to stick with you afterwards. I really fucked my shit up after railing a good line and I could breathe right for a couple weeks. I think smoking it might be the way to go with this. It's just so volatile I'm not sure what else could be done with it without causing as much or more pain than snorting it. I would be so afraid to plug it.


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It's much easier on your body if you take your whole dose at once. Once you start redosing, the nausea can come back tenfold and you'll be wheezing on your knees before you know what hit you.
Nausea wasn't too bad. I definitely could feel my earlier eaten food moshing in my stomach, but it wasn't anything to make the experience less worth it. It was a relatively small dose though.


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You seriously should go outside. Tripping inside is nothing like the outdoors on this shit, especially at night. If you want an ungodly experience wait until it fogs up and go get lost in a forest at night. SCARIEST. SHIT. EVER. I locked myself out of my house even though I had my key in my door. lmao
Incredible.

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You'll notice that there is a certain serenity that comes with the drug, but that's only after you deal with the trials at hand.
That's what I was talking about with the heaven and hell shit and an attack by a demon. I felt I was lingering on the come up, and for a second it just took over and I felt like I didn't know what I was going to be in for and I had vivid images of myself being sick and in pain, and etc etc felt like I was in for it.

Then I just relaxed. Realized what was happening. And decided to push every negative energy away by accepting it and realizing life for what it is and all good and bad and pains and gains etc etc. I really didn't get any thing bad after that, it was kind of a turning point, maybe for a my whole life, I felt fear grow inside of me and attempt to take control and I felt I over came it for the moment. It was something to bring with me on all my future experiences.

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After you get some more experience with it, you'll realize that beauty of it come from its ability to twist things into your darkest fears. I switched genders for about 4 hours because of this damn chemical which left me crying like a fucking baby holding the place that my testicles once resided.
Yes. It's crazy, I'm glad, and taken aback that you are on the same page, that the chemical can make itself so known to people who are paying the right attention. Awesome.
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Old 2008-12-08, 12:31
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So.....

I did it again. With a friend. Well. Three of us today. One took it while being in another town relative to us, and ended up getting sick and not liking it at all, pacing back and forth and showing signs of distress. (from the phone)

I'm still kind of coming off of it, the visuals never fully peaked, we took around 26 mg's each, over the course of a few hours. Should've taken them all at once to get the full effect, definitely.

I don't know how to say what happened. For most of the time we were sitting there watching t.v. which was either really interesting, really strange, or really stupid.

Some shit I can't explain, for instance, while watching Storm Chasers on discovery the storm begin forming (again, or a new one) in front of them, and all of the sudden it cuts to a scene with a Sheriff (at least a police vehicle) going down the road facing a camera on the other side of the road at at least 60 with the driver stepped out, or (I guess..) hanging out of the driver side door some how driving the car. I paused it after playing it back on DVR to make sure, and it was sure enough a police vehicle with it's sirens on flying down the road with the driver standing out of the vehicle but hanging on somehow. Doesn't make sense. On par with how Crocodile dun dee just stepped on everyone's heads at the end of the movie and everyone was just happy about it, but that's just strange because of the psychedelics involved, I don't understand why the cop looked the way it did... .

We built a fire outdoors at one point, which was awesome, but then we both saw one of these.

http://tinyurl.com/2wfjoj

I don't what to make of it. Most of the night was strange like this. Funny thing was I seen a shooting star, or whatever you want to call them, if they are shooting stars, on the way over to the dudes house where this was all done at, then while we're outside the dude I was with sees one, and so I look up and we both look up and this big black silent triangle shaped thing just glides over the night sky with weird hard to see lights on each side of the "V" thing, with the V pointing in the direction it was going, just giving off this silent energy that you could hear, or 'see', or feel/sense in some way that wasn't baseline activity. We both saw it, and both kind of questioned it and if we were really seeing it or just the chemical fucking with us.

I still don't know. I don't know if I want to.

Nice. Don't know why it chose to show itself like that. Makes me wonder. I've seen things like this before, I just didn't expect it to pop out at such an obvious time and literally say hello.

The visuals were never up after that, they would've kicked in, but the experience shocked us sober. They've kicked in since then, a little bit around 3-4 am or so, it's now 730 am. We seen the "craft" at 12am.

Very weird.

Weird chemical.
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I am coming down from it myself atm. Smoked some DMT during the trip. Fucking insane. 30mg 2ct7 and a whole fuck load unknown amount of DMT. I love DMT.
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Nausea wasn't too bad. I definitely could feel my earlier eaten food moshing in my stomach, but it wasn't anything to make the experience less worth it. It was a relatively small dose though.

I had major issues with food. I was only able to eat on the last trip I had on it. It was almost too perfect...

That's what I was talking about with the heaven and hell shit and an attack by a demon. I felt I was lingering on the come up, and for a second it just took over and I felt like I didn't know what I was going to be in for and I had vivid images of myself being sick and in pain, and etc etc felt like I was in for it.

Then I just relaxed. Realized what was happening. And decided to push every negative energy away by accepting it and realizing life for what it is and all good and bad and pains and gains etc etc. I really didn't get any thing bad after that, it was kind of a turning point, maybe for a my whole life, I felt fear grow inside of me and attempt to take control and I felt I over came it for the moment. It was something to bring with me on all my future experiences.

This is why I liked snorting it so much. I would vomit right after that vertigo kicked my ass and I would see all these evil-looking little snake/eel-ish entities come flying off my puke like they were pure evil that I had just released from my body. It was always crazy and wonderful until I pushed my luck.

Yes. It's crazy, I'm glad, and taken aback that you are on the same page, that the chemical can make itself so known to people who are paying the right attention. Awesome.

This drug definitely has more value to a psychonaut than it would to anyone who just wanted to get fucked up. It seemed to me that you had to have the willpower to enjoy the drug. I mean I gave away a few doses and I heard back from all of them crying on the phone because it was too intense for them. I had to play mental rescue for 5 different people and then I stopped letting other people do it. 2c-t-7 is a bad trip unless you make it change.
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I had major issues with food. I was only able to eat on the last trip I had on it. It was almost too perfect...

That's how most people seem to be.


This is why I liked snorting it so much. I would vomit right after that vertigo kicked my ass and I would see all these evil-looking little snake/eel-ish entities come flying off my puke like they were pure evil that I had just released from my body. It was always crazy and wonderful until I pushed my luck.


It seems like that would take a toll on your body.


This drug definitely has more value to a psychonaut than it would to anyone who just wanted to get fucked up. It seemed to me that you had to have the willpower to enjoy the drug. I mean I gave away a few doses and I heard back from all of them crying on the phone because it was too intense for them. I had to play mental rescue for 5 different people and then I stopped letting other people do it. 2c-t-7 is a bad trip unless you make it change.

Yea. I agree.

What would you say about tolerance, and how often one can dose? I'm going to check erowid...
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I am coming down from it myself atm. Smoked some DMT during the trip. Fucking insane. 30mg 2ct7 and a whole fuck load unknown amount of DMT. I love DMT.


I want to try DMT. Endogenous DMT (if the research is conclusive of what it seems) is pretty interesting on it's own.
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10mg's down the hatch.


Hopefully I'm not overdoing, causing damage, or disrespecting. It's fun though.
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I would only dose twice a month max because of the toll it took on my mind and body. It worked out for the better. I kept my tolerance down and it kept its magic. I personally wouldn't ever orally dose again but I would gladly snort it.

10 mg for an oral dose is nothing compared to what I've read about people doing. I've read about people snorting 30mg and dropping 50 more down their throats and still having a good time.

I hope it goes well for you.
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I just wanted to play around with it again. 10mg's at once brought me to the edge of visuals but no further. It made me talkative and good at bringing up or expanding on good subjects. It's something I would consider taking as a noo-tropic for sure.

I get little stomach problems no. It seems I'm used to it. In the same way hash cookies usually wreak havoc whenever I eat the first of a batch. Then as I eat more, as the week goes on, they are digested with ease. This chemical seems to have taken that route.

Although I'm sure if I stop for a week, it will go back to the moderate to heavy bubbling, bloating, gassing, hard to digest symptoms that I got the first time.
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I could never use it as a nootropic drug. I think it is way too volatile for what you're suggesting. I'd put it on par with MDMA dosing as in only doing it once a month or special occasions. Anything more and my body cannot take it. You'd probably have an ungodly cross tolerance to a few categories of related drugs as well. I just don't see how it could end well.

On a side note, anyone have their own thought of how much more potent intranasal use is versus oral consumption? I've read it's about 3x as potent, but I never did many oral doses. I always felt the repercussions of oral consumption were way worse in comparison with intranasal use.
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keep in mind some of the deaths with 2ct7 involve snorting upwards of 30+mgs...

it is an intense experience, and not for everyone. best used even less than you'd use MDMA. i remember a residual tolerance sticks around for like 2-3 weeks. it is the best gateway to the void however...
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Old 2008-12-10, 19:09
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The only deaths from 2c-t-7 have been from combining it with MDMA. I've snorted 30+mgs a few times and maxed at 40mg. This drug isn't really for everyone, but neither is snorting it.

I'm still trying to figure out what this void is that everyone on low doses is talking about. I'm not sure if it's a mental thing or what. The only time I can really say I saw a void of complete despair, agony, and true cruelty was after I railed that 40mgs and literally hugged a toilet for and hour and a half with total time/reality dissociation. It's the darkest thing I ever could fathom and more, but I never got that on any other trip with this, be it orally or intranasally ingested.
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Old 2008-12-10, 23:09
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The void is a totality as well as an absence of all things.

All that is, is you, and you are simple, aware, consciousness.

It's quite the experience.

It's not so much a high amount of psychedelic substance that you ingest that takes you to the void, I believe it has to do with the stability and openness of your belief systems, and your pre-birth state.
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Old 2008-12-11, 00:02
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Ah... I see. What everyone is calling the void is what I called the haze. It usually occurs after I snort it and then it holds on for about 45 minutes to an hour. Things are starting to make a little more sense.
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