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 2008-12-02, 18:51
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A good question about L.S.D
ok so one of my friends said you can make acid from putting windex on a peice of bread and let the windex soak through.
then you squeeze the contents out and drink it.
he actually thinks it works
i say he is fucking stupid but can it actually work?
totse help me out
if its true or not:D:D:D
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#2
 2008-12-02, 18:58
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
Total BS.
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#3
 2008-12-02, 18:58
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
na man
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#4
 2008-12-02, 19:35
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
You'll be drinking ammonia, but thats probably what you should be doing anyway. Try it dude.
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#5
 2008-12-02, 19:39
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
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You'll be drinking ammonia, but thats probably what you should be doing anyway. Try it dude.
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umm no thanks its not for me he is going to do it
i have hookups for REAL acid
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#6
 2008-12-02, 19:39
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
btw this is by no means a good question. just goes to show how much of a fucking retard the average bltc er is
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#7
 2008-12-02, 19:45
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
Fail troll.
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#8
 2008-12-02, 19:53
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
Fail troll.
not a troll
he actually thinks it will work
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#9
 2008-12-02, 20:48
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
not a troll
he actually thinks it will work
A good question about LSD
but can it actually work?
Apparently you think it's possible too. If you're not a troll, you can't be too bright. Sorry.
A question like this I think your average person would check google, maybe. Posting this kind of thing in a message board you're either:
A. Seeking lulz/trolling
B. Asking a stupid (Also see: not good) question about LSD that you think might actually plausible
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#10
 2008-12-02, 20:49
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
ok so one of my friends said you can make acid from putting windex...
*stops reading.*
Sure brah.
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#11
 2008-12-02, 21:06
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
NO, YOU CAN'T MAKE LSD WITHOUT ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE OF CHEMISTRY AND EXPENSIVE PRECURSORS!!!
Someone close this bullshit.
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#12
 2008-12-02, 21:20
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
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Originally Posted by Carpel Jets
NO, YOU CAN'T MAKE LSD WITHOUT ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE OF CHEMISTRY AND EXPENSIVE PRECURSORS!!!
Someone close this bullshit.
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No man, you can make it using toothpaste and banana peels and some under the sink chemicals, but windex isn't one of them.
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#13
 2008-12-02, 21:59
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
tell him to add raid to the windex when it comes out of the bread
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#14
 2008-12-02, 22:12
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
if it is actually "your friend" and not you who thinks this is true....
by all means say you were wrong and film him as he downs some bread and windex...
youtube it...
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#15
 2008-12-02, 22:53
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
One of my boys is in the process of making some LSD. He knows how to do it without all of the chemistry equipment! I can't wait, and he knows his shit! He made a batch about a year ago and it was great. You do not need lab equipment or a degree in chemistry as long as you know how to do it right without killing people! Some hells angels taught him this shit...
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#16
 2008-12-02, 23:00
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
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Originally Posted by OxyDust
One of my boys is in the process of making some LSD. He knows how to do it without all of the chemistry equipment! I can't wait, and he knows his shit! He made a batch about a year ago and it was great. You do not need lab equipment or a degree in chemistry as long as you know how to do it right without killing people! Some hells angels taught him this shit...
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Is that so?
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#17
 2008-12-02, 23:05
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
shiny blue dildos.
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#18
 2008-12-02, 23:08
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
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Originally Posted by OxyDust
One of my boys is in the process of making some LSD. He knows how to do it without all of the chemistry equipment! I can't wait, and he knows his shit! He made a batch about a year ago and it was great. You do not need lab equipment or a degree in chemistry as long as you know how to do it right without killing people! Some hells angels taught him this shit...
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you dont know shit. the ergot plant is banned from the united states and without this fungus type plant its impossible to create LSD because the precursor chems are in that specific plant.
maybe he's ordered research chemicals but i highly doubt that he's making pure LSD
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#19
 2008-12-02, 23:10
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
LOL. I wonder if that came from like...window pane acid + someone thinking about the ergot fungus (since it comes from wheat). I donno, but whatever...that dude is fucking stupid as fuck and you're equally/more stupid for believing it. HAahhahahahahaha dude, come on and think about it for a second. Just think about it.
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#20
 2008-12-02, 23:12
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
but i highly doubt that he's making pure LSD
I highly doubt he's making anything.
LOL. I wonder if that came from like...window pane acid + someone thinking about the ergot fungus (since it comes from wheat). I donno, but whatever...that dude is fucking stupid as fuck and you're equally/more stupid for believing it. HAahhahahahahaha dude, come on and think about it for a second. Just think about it.
That's why I think this is a troll thread. There have been all sorts of 'methods' of synthing LSD concerning under the sink type chemicals and other stupid shit like that. I think there's something along those lines in the Anarchist's Cookbook or something.
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#21
 2008-12-02, 23:15
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
he just took it.
the liquid that came out of the bottom of the wheat bread is clear and sorta smells like beer and piss the piss is ammonia
he downed it and he threw up . and no i am not that stupid at all. i was just asking your input
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#22
 2008-12-02, 23:18
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
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Originally Posted by hollywood undead 420
he just took it.
the liquid that came out of the bottom of the wheat bread is clear and sorta smells like beer and piss the piss is ammonia
he downed it and he threw up . and no i am not that stupid at all. i was just asking your input
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LOL...my god the stupidity of some people astounds me...
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#23
 2008-12-02, 23:19
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
Dude...seriously. Windex and bread? And you actually thought it might be possible?
Maybe not stupid in general, but on this particular subject you seem to prove otherwise.
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#24
 2008-12-02, 23:20
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
Look:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=windex+bread+LSD&btnG=Search
There's only 1 result with the words windex bread and LSD. It's this thread.
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#25
 2008-12-02, 23:31
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
you dont know shit. the ergot plant is banned from the united states and without this fungus type plant its impossible to create LSD because the precursor chems are in that specific plant.
maybe he's ordered research chemicals but i highly doubt that he's making pure LSD
No, he's got the ergot needed to make it. He's almost done with it, all he needs to do freeze the bad chemicals out that WILL kill people and then he will have LSD. I have seen him do it once and took a bunch and it was EXACTLY like the LSD i have always experienced. And i have done LSD about 15-20 times (i'm not trying to bullshit you guys either). IT CAN BE DONE THIS WAY I PROMISE!
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#26
 2008-12-02, 23:41
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
So, do tell, how does one make LSD without any lab equipment? Since you've seen him do it surely you know how he does it. Puts all the ingredients in a bathtub and stirs until it's crystallized?
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#27
 2008-12-02, 23:45
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Originally Posted by Darkus
So, do tell, how does one make LSD without any lab equipment? Since you've seen him do it surely you know how he does it. Puts all the ingredients in a bathtub and stirs until it's crystallized?
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You mix windex and bread and drink it.
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#28
 2008-12-02, 23:45
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
You mix windex and bread and drink it.
Duh, how could I forget. It was already clearly stated in this thread. Silly me.
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#29
 2008-12-02, 23:56
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
So, do tell, how does one make LSD without any lab equipment? Since you've seen him do it surely you know how he does it.
I'll be honest, i didn't see him do the whole entire process because i met him when he was half done with it. He told me he had the ergot and soaked it with either one chemical or a couple (i can't remember, it's been a while) in a plastic holder with a lid attached. he then kept in in his fridge for a few months (not sure how many, i don't know if it matters or not, i'll ask). He then put the liquid on a rectangular holder (with small ridges) and put it in the freezer for a few hours. he then froze the bad chemicals out that will kill people and then the somewhat pure LSD he put to one side of the holder. He then did this another 8-10 times until he had pure LSD, all the bad shit was frozen out of it. GOOD STUFF.
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#30
 2008-12-03, 00:07
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
I'll be honest, i didn't see him do the whole entire process because i met him when he was half done with it. He told me he had the ergot and soaked it with either one chemical or a couple (i can't remember, it's been a while) in a plastic holder with a lid attached. he then kept in in his fridge for a few months (not sure how many, i don't know if it matters or not, i'll ask). He then put the liquid on a rectangular holder (with small ridges) and put it in the freezer for a few hours. he then froze the bad chemicals out that will kill people and then the somewhat pure LSD he put to one side of the holder. He then did this another 8-10 times until he had pure LSD, all the bad shit was frozen out of it. GOOD STUFF.
http://philipscheel.net/facepalm.jpg
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#31
 2008-12-03, 00:13
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OxyDust 
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
http://philipscheel.net/facepalm.jpg
what's that supposed to mean. I don't give a fuck if you believe me or not...
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#32
 2008-12-03, 00:15
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
http://philipscheel.net/facepalm.jpg
I lol'd.
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#33
 2008-12-03, 00:19
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
what's that supposed to mean. I don't give a fuck if you believe me or not...
do you believe yourself?
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#34
 2008-12-03, 00:23
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1221/1223267545418ri8.jpg
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#35
 2008-12-03, 00:31
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
As SN pointed out (very knowledgeable chemist) you're very likely confusing LSA with LSD. As far as I know (almost positive), LSD CANNOT be synthesized without proper equipment. And furthermore, the method you posted most certainly will not produce LSD.
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml
^ does that look like something one can make at home, with little to no chemistry knowledge, without lab equipment? No, it does not. To think otherwise is foolish. Give up, man.
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#36
 2008-12-03, 01:09
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
You could make LSD from obscene quantities of HBWR if so inclined. Would still take some decent equipment and some rather dodgy chems. Is ghetto acid possible? Sure. But if you're crafty enough to do it, you're smart enough to get some good glass and relatively clean precursors.
Also, fuck you motherfuckers. Half of you are fucking stupid, half are total assholes, and the other half are stupid fucking nigger jew homo asshole fucktards. Go die in a fire.
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#37
 2008-12-03, 01:33
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
I am only posting in this thread to say that this bullshit isn't even worth a real response it's so stupid. OP, if you actually believe this shit, I got a whole bunch of lidocaine, err, I mean cocaine, to sell you.
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#38
 2008-12-03, 01:37
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
As SN pointed out (very knowledgeable chemist) you're very likely confusing LSA with LSD. As far as I know (100% positive), LSD CANNOT be synthesized without proper equipment. And furthermore, the method you posted most certainly will not produce LSD.
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml
^ does that look like something one can make at home, with little to no chemistry knowledge, without lab equipment? No, it does not. To think otherwise is foolish. Give up, man.
fixed.
Is ghetto acid possible? Sure.but not ghetto in the ghetto sense of the word.
Also, fuck you motherfuckers. Half of you are fucking stupid, half are total assholes, and the other half are stupid fucking nigger jew homo asshole fucktards. Go die in a fire.what? not me, right? 1/2 +1/2 +1/2 = 1?
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#39
 2008-12-03, 01:42
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
I just said almost in the very unlikely off chance that I was wrong. ;)
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#40
 2008-12-03, 02:47
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
I really want too see what oxydust is talking about..
Not so much cause i want to make teh mad acidz but because i've heard of old mate performing similar processes around these parts and i want to know what in the fuck he's actually doing.
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#41
 2008-12-03, 03:53
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
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Originally Posted by silverballs
I really want too see what oxydust is talking about..
Not so much cause i want to make teh mad acidz but because i've heard of old mate performing similar processes around these parts and i want to know what in the fuck he's actually doing.
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I thought you were smarter than that. Who cares what those idiots do? It's bullshit. It's even worse than the "gun bluing" meth "recipe".
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#42
 2008-12-03, 07:16
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
Who cares what those idiots do? It's bullshit.
I do because old mate and i'd say a fair few of those idiots are doing something.
Whether it's LSA or some other random shit, i don't know... and that bugs me.
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#43
 2008-12-03, 14:59
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
i didnt belive him i was just asking you guys what you think and everyones anwser is no it doesnt work
he was sick for hours.
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#44
 2008-12-03, 21:06
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Originally Posted by hollywood undead 420
i didnt belive him i was just asking you guys what you think and everyones anwser is no it doesnt work
he was sick for hours.
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We're mostly talking about OxyDust or whatever his name is now.
...and still awaiting a response.
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#45
 2008-12-08, 02:52
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
We're mostly talking about OxyDust or whatever his name is now.
...and still awaiting a response.
umm o.k i will join in
come on oxydust give us an answer
was that good?
ah shit.... i forgot the demoralizing insult:(:(:(
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#46
 2008-12-08, 04:35
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
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Look:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=windex+bread+LSD&btnG=Search
There's only 1 result with the words windex bread and LSD. It's this thread.
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I thought we wern't supposed to be able to find threads through google, something about robots.txt?
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#47
 2008-12-08, 22:51
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
ok so one of my friends said you can make acid from putting windex on a peice of bread and let the windex soak through.
then you squeeze the contents out and drink it.
Okay, now what the fuck made you think this was a good question??
does that look like something one can make at home, with little to no chemistry knowledge, without lab equipment?
:D
Two out of three, nigga...
Of course, chemistry knowledge makes up for a lot - the more you have, the less access to chem catalogs and equipment you need - and my idea of "no equipment" tends to include a box of borax, a pile of sand, and a really big bonfire... which may be cheating...
...but chemistry knowledge makes up for a lot. ;) Not something I'd expect the average "how does I make toothpaste and orange peels* into LSD?" BLTC-newfag to pull off even if you gave them step-by-step instructions and a well stocked lab, and not something I'd expect most competent LTers to pull off without being handed a well-stocked lab and some precursors... but with enough knowledge, any molecule is OTC and off-the-shelf... or, as I prefer it, "picked up off the ground."
* incidentally, indole is a known component of orange blossom oil, making total lysergic acid synthesis from toothpaste and orange peels - and one or two other things - theoretically barely plausible. Then again, table salt would work just as well as toothpaste as a halogen source for halogenating random alkanes for addition to the 3-position, and total synthesis of lysergic acid is itself slightly on the "barely" side of barely plausible. Don't go trying to make LSD in your freezer 'till you can 'splain to me wtf shulgin is doing, people...
I really want too see what oxydust is talking about..
Not so much cause i want to make teh mad acidz but because i've heard of old mate performing similar processes around these parts and i want to know what in the fuck he's actually doing.
Probably either crude LSA extraction from ergot culture, or absolutely nothing. Theoretically, he could be making AMT from gluten - it's slightly high in tryptophan, and AMT actually could be made by ghetto-ass recipie (soak in acid, soak in bleach, soak in... umm, lots of options... mix with chalk and vinegar, distill, chuck penny in some ammonia - lyse peptide, degrade to indole-3-ethaldehyde, oxidize to indoleacetic acid, form indole-2-propanone, form and reduce imine)... but the chances of that are slim-to-none, and I'm sure the amphetamine analog of histamine isn't something you'd want to ingest anyway...
Apparently, the actual micropolypeptide side-chain is easier to lyse than the peptide amide bond, at least according to hoffman or weil or whoever the fuck it was that was speculating about kykeon and KCO3 or whatever it was. ergine/alkylergine mixtures would be indistinguishable from LSD in the proper dosage, and ergot's as good a source as, say, morning glory.
Of course, fuck up the cleanup with ipomea, you puke harmlessly for a few hours. Fuck up the cleanup with claviceps, your limbs fall off and you die as your rotting flesh starts rotting the living shit. All of this makes morning glory a much better source for ergine alkaloids than rye bread unless you're actually making LSD, in my opinion - and even then, you don't really need that 2-4g/l from a highly-optomized ergot grow op to optimize the space in your basement unless you're supplying LSD to an entire well-populated solar system, really.
Buuuut... yeah. Your and oxy's respective friends are either doing a much more dangerous version of a morning-glory CWE... or they're doing nothing and wasting a lot of time. You're not making LSD unless you're starting from lysergic acid - not "lysergic acid somethingorother" - and you're not doing that unless you can explain why you think you've just successfully precipitated pure, unadulterated lysergic acid monohydrate.
Regarding Oxy's 'friend,' I could certainly see why a HA chemist might want to trick some outsider into manufacturing a steady supply of ergot alkaloids, and it was certainly nice of them to suggest lysing (or whatever) the ergotamine and related toxic ergopeptides... but... no. Just no. You're not going to get a one-pot synthesis with the ergot fungus still in solution. Period.
Give up making LSD unless you want to study a lot of chemistry for its own sake, and try to keep your LSA extractions to source material that won't kill you if you fuck up.
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 2008-12-09, 01:33
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Re: A good question about L.S.D
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Fuck you're retarded. Why would you even waste anyone's time trying to explain this?
If you're not a troll, tell your friend to kill himself by drinking the ammonia. He'll probably end up accidentally cutting off his head with a chainsaw thinking he's jacking off or some shit anyways.
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