Obamoid is stupid and shows this by believing in the global warming scam enough to try to change the USA for the worse, ie. cause economic collapse.


President-elect Barack Obama proposes economic suicide for US
By Christopher Booker
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/11/30/do3010.xml

So we (the world that is) should continue almost solely relying on unsustainable fossil fuels for the input of energy to our economy and should not bother at all with other sources of energy?

I am sure if the US government can 'afford' the several bailouts to the sum of several $trillion it could afford $15billion a year to fund renewable energy systems

(IMHO i am sceptical about Anthropogenic climate change but convinced about resource depletion)

The climate has been fluctuaring between periods of hot and cold since the Earth has had a climate. It just so happens that we're living in an intermediary period just after an ice age. It's easy to assume that our current climate is the norm, but it isn't.

Personally, I'm not entirely sold on the idea that man is altering the climate. It could be that the planet is warming because of precession, increased solar activity, or any other number of natural phanomen.

Personally, I'm not entirely sold on the idea that man is altering the climate.

thats only because you are a fucking idiot.

thats only because you are a fucking idiot.

Would you care to elaborate? Or are you just as much of a mindless fucking knuckle dragger as what I think you are?

Would you care to elaborate? Or are you just as much of a mindless fucking knuckle dragger as what I think you are?

well you havn't really given me much to elaborate on, but i'll give it a shot.

The climate has been fluctuaring between periods of hot and cold since the Earth has had a climate. It just so happens that we're living in an intermediary period just after an ice age. It's easy to assume that our current climate is the norm, but it isn't.

true, the climate is constantly changing, but there is no such thing as a "normal" climate. it's a complex system that constantly fluctuates. heres a graph that you have probably seen before and probably dismissed as some sort of propaganda: http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/FAQ/fig/FAQ-2.1_Fig-1.png

if you can find me any sound evidence that global greenhouse gasses have ever been remotely close to these levels, then i will gladly concede my argument (off you go then.). and even if you were to find such a rise, you will not find one that rises so steeply. and try to decouple greenhouse gas levels from enthalpy levels if you wan't, i'm interested to see what kind of straws you clutch at with that one. skepticism is good, but not for stubborn, brainless twats like yourself.


It could be that the planet is warming because of precession, increased solar activity, or any other number of natural phanomen.

i'm not going to elaborate on that one until you do, sweetheart, i'm eager to hear about these phanomen that you speak of.
the fact that you say that it could be these "natural phanomen" just shows that you yourself don't have any confidence in your pathetic arguments.

you. fucking. idiot.

well you havn't really given me much to elaborate on, but i'll give it a shot.



true, the climate is constantly changing, but there is no such thing as a "normal" climate. it's a complex system that constantly fluctuates. heres a graph that you have probably seen before and probably dismissed as some sort of propaganda: http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/FAQ/fig/FAQ-2.1_Fig-1.png

if you can find me any sound evidence that global greenhouse gasses have ever been remotely close to these levels, then i will gladly concede my argument (off you go then.). and even if you were to find such a rise, you will not find one that rises so steeply. and try to decouple greenhouse gas levels from enthalpy levels if you wan't, i'm interested to see what kind of straws you clutch at with that one. skepticism is good, but not for stubborn, brainless twats like yourself.




i'm not going to elaborate on that one until you do, sweetheart, i'm eager to hear about these phanomen that you speak of.
the fact that you say that it could be these "natural phanomen" just shows that you yourself don't have any confidence in your pathetic arguments.

you. fucking. idiot.

Natural events which trigger climate change.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession_(astronomy)

http://www.john-daly.com/solar/solar.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caldera

There's plenty others, but i've made my point.

Perhaps you should read up on paleoclimatology and the Earth's climate history - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology