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Old 2008-12-01, 23:02
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butfuck egipt
Default phentermine

just found a women with tons but she wants 10cents a mg how is this comparable with adderall in terms of abuse potential
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Old 2008-12-02, 00:08
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I'm not for sure, never tried it
Buutttt....

Generally, phentermine appears to be relatively well tolerated.[3] It can produce side effects consistent with its catecholamine-releasing properties, e.g., tachycardia (increased heart rate) and elevated blood pressure, but the incidence and magnitude of these appear to be less than with the amphetamines. Because phentermine acts through sympathomimetic pathways, the drug may increase blood pressure and heart rate. It may also cause palpitations, restlessness, and insomnia. Additionally, phentermine has the potential to cause physical and psychological dependence.

[edit] More common symptoms

* Insomnia
* Increased blood pressure
* Irritability
* Nervousness
* Sense of well-being
* Dry mouth
* Unpleasant taste
* Blurred vision
* Heartburn/Acid reflux
* Change in sexual desire
* Clumsiness
* Confusion
* Diarrhea
* Dizziness
* Headache
* Irregular heartbeat
* Nausea or vomiting
* Psychosis
* Skin rash or itching
* Stomach pain
* Tiredness

[edit] Less common symptoms

* Convulsions (seizures)
* Dizziness
* Fever
* Hallucinations
* Hostility with urge to attack
* Irregular blood pressure
* Lightheadedness or fainting
* Mental depression, following a period of excitement
* Tremors, trembling or shaking
* Overactive reflexes
* Panic
* Restlessness
* Severe nausea, vomiting or diarrhea
* Stomach cramps
* Tiredness or weakness

From wikipedia.com



Also, from what I read on erowid vaults for it (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Pharms_Phentermine.shtml) it seems if comparing to adderall(amphetamine) a higher dosage is needed.
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Old 2008-12-02, 01:38
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butfuck egipt
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i took about 60 mg. i t gave me a powerful rush but i decided to eat some wendys within 20 mins of the high so the intitiol wave went away pretty quick but hey. how is snorting it it doesnt do any " fancy shit like vyvance does it?
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Old 2008-12-02, 02:11
NotThatPhat NotThatPhat is offline
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Phentermine is an amphetamine like drug witha a molecular weight equel to that of meth, but phentermine is much weaker than meth. Phentermine has an AMP substructure with an extra alpha-2 methyl group added. Meth has its extra methyl group on the AMP's amine(n-methyl). That makes a big difference in strength. 37mg of phentermine is simular to 10mg of Desoxyn(racemic-meth')
"""quoted from a member in my thread from a few years ago"""

I do not have a source but it was posted by DrY.R.Head.
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Old 2008-12-02, 03:53
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NotThatPhat
Phentermine is an amphetamine like drug witha a molecular weight equel to that of meth, but phentermine is much weaker than meth. Phentermine has an AMP substructure with an extra alpha-2 methyl group added. Meth has its extra methyl group on the AMP's amine(n-methyl). That makes a big difference in strength. 37mg of phentermine is simular to 10mg of Desoxyn(racemic-meth')
"""quoted from a member in my thread from a few years ago"""

I do not have a source but it was posted by DrY.R.Head.

Phenteremine is not an amphetamine like drug it IS an amphetamine. 2-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine and 2-methyl-amphetamine
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Old 2008-12-02, 08:26
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butfuck egipt
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the high was very interesting. i ended up taking about150mg. the duration wasnt that long but i enjoyed the peak. it was very calm high sort of like mdma.the body high was amazing like waves of orgasms for the first 2 hours there was no anxiousness and the come down was glorious ( i still am coming down.)

just decided to take 4 mg xanax and valerian root caps i feel i should be to sleep soon my body is shuting down and im starting to hallucinate after only 9 hours of tweaking this is abnormal for me as it usually takes 2-3 24 hour speed days.

this was a fun drug that did cost me a little bit of mulla but next time im saying there only worth 1.50 because they should not cost as much as meth. im making an erowid report more detailed so ill edit in the link in the morning.

EDIT: 100 mg for ten dollars...no thats just not fair is it?( i only paid it because i didnt have any exp on it. + i wanted some upper. and im sick of mollys cuz they aint no mollys there molly bombs. and i have a hypersensetivity to dxm. whitch because i share info i should some times keep to myself kids are doing poor man a/b extractions and mixing it with all sorts of chems. including dxm and random rcs (then making binder/filler/meth/dxm/rc XXX with a possibility of caffeine, and pressing it into a vitamin so im staying the fuck away from these yolks.or atleast i get a testion kit.. bye the way has anyone started charging for a reagent service. ( i never tell my custos how to do it....
but 75-100 mg( DXM) sends me to a 3 day trip with a after glow(36-24 hr) so strong i feel the desire to clean.( my hands 13 times and my hair 17 sometimes 18 because the first rinse is all the oil. i get a huge case of ocd/delusions. and slight schizto tendancys. but any ways. way off subject. this drug seems pretty fun, have fun.
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Old 2008-12-02, 18:24
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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EDIT: 100 mg for ten dollars...no thats just not fair is it.I lolerd. Just order that shit yourself off the net it is pretty easy to find. There is also another one called tenuate retard(Diethylcathinone) a german pill which is related to methcathinone and bupropion is an analog of Diethylcathinone (also called Diethylpropion and Amfepramone). it is a chemical of interest but I think it requires higher doses and some of the side effects are not so good. I am ot overweight and i am not into stims though.
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Old 2008-12-02, 23:41
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Yes just order it online, I did and to my astonishment I actually recieved it in the mail. Of course this was like 3 years ago so I dunno.
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Old 2008-12-03, 02:53
Judasway Judasway is offline
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I overdosed on phentermine and died 3 times (my heart stopped) But i found them to be addicting, and the comedowns a bitch. You better get some ambien or something for the comedown or your gonna have one rough night.
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Old 2008-12-03, 02:57
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butfuck egipt
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u didnt read the thread huh? i kept it updated, down a lil it says i took 4 mg xanax and two valerian root caps. and unlike you (sorry i remember your story about stealing all your parents pills) i have quite a bit of CNS stim exp. i have been through those nights back when.
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Old 2008-12-03, 06:35
Judasway Judasway is offline
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Oh haha sorry didn't realize you accounted for the shitty comedown.
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Old 2008-12-03, 06:54
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swallow some rail some smoke some weed have some fun thank me later
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Old 2008-12-03, 15:18
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Your medicine cabinet
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rizzo in a box
swallow some rail some smoke some weed have some fun thank me later


Hey, how's it going?
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Old 2008-12-03, 21:42
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Hey, how's it going?

I'm oscillating between periods of total clarity & peace & love & enlightenment and periods of complete madness & hate & fire & destruction & complete and utter disorientation

so, nothing really new
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Old 2008-12-03, 22:06
Acolyte
 
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I'm oscillating between periods of total clarity & peace & love & enlightenment and periods of complete madness & hate & fire & destruction & complete and utter disorientation

so, nothing really new


Lmfao, well said. I feel you on that though.
 
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