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Old 2008-12-01, 15:18
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So i was looking at the cold relief section at walmart. There is a portion of this section that has little cards with pictures of the product, and information on the back. These cards need to be taken to the pharmacy so that the medicine can be signed for and purchased. Most of these products contain pseudoephedrine; however one product contained Ephedrine HCl. It was labeled as a bronchialdialator used for the relief of severe chest congestion. I looked at the side effects and it said "nervousness, insomnia, decreased appetite.

I am wondering if this is the same type of ephedrine that was taken off the market when it was to be used for weigh tloss or energy. If this is the case then this is the only time I have ever been able to find ephedra in any store.
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Old 2008-12-01, 15:26
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Yes it is the same. However, it was taken off the market as Ephedrine and Pseudoephedrine are primary ingredients in Meth.
It is now regulated and you must be 21 two buy it; with a limited amount allowed per season, per household number.

Why do you ask?
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Old 2008-12-01, 15:28
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I was just wondering about that because I have wanted to buy it instead of amps or caffeine pills to stay awake. Are you sure the age to buy it is 21 and not 18?
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Old 2008-12-01, 15:56
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In Nevada the age limit is 21; however, the regulation of both are controlled by the FDA so I believe that would go nation wide.

Read up on abusing straight Ephedrine HLC on Erowid, if you don't already know your stuff. I am pretty sure it is not wise to try and use Pseudoephedrine recreationally as an upper, but I'm not sure on Ephedrine. Do your homework and maybe post back?
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Old 2008-12-01, 17:36
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Should work, I downed a bottle of sudafed once, I was up, but not so much as to be recreational. I recomend it in the place of caffeine.
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Old 2008-12-01, 17:46
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Should work, I downed a bottle of sudafed once, I was up, but not so much as to be recreational. I recomend it in the place of caffeine.
why?

That shit makes you want to throw up...

That's gross to be doing every day man
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Old 2008-12-01, 17:56
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Pseudoephedrine≠ephedrine

ephedrine will keep you up, it's especially good with caffeine, try maybe 50 mg of ephedrine and 200 mg of caffeine or just a cup or two of strong black coffee.

Pretty jittery though.

in place of either, I recommend Chocamine. Google it, it's godly.
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Old 2008-12-01, 21:02
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Pseudoephedrine≠ephedrine

ephedrine will keep you up, it's especially good with caffeine, try maybe 50 mg of ephedrine and 200 mg of caffeine or just a cup or two of strong black coffee.

Pretty jittery though.

in place of either, I recommend Chocamine. Google it, it's godly.

and pseudoephedrine won't?

they're pretty much the same unless you go down to the molecular level.
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Old 2008-12-01, 21:17
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^Yeah, but pseudoephedrine has never been recognized as a stimulant and ephedrine has.

Ephedrine>pseudoephedrine for the purposes OP is going to use it for.
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Old 2008-12-01, 21:41
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quotes from wiki:

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Common adverse drug reactions (ADRs) associated with pseudoephedrine therapy include: CNS stimulation
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There have also been reports of off-label uses of pseudoephedrine for its stimulant properties. Some people, long-distance truck drivers and sports athletes for example, have reportedly used pseudoephedrine as a stimulant to increase their state of alertness/awareness
but yeah, ephedrine would probably be better.
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Old 2008-12-02, 04:14
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I am going to give it a try as soon as I get out to the store. I am pretty sure that pseudoephedrine is useless if taken for energy/amp like effects. I have never heard of it being used as an athletic/weight loss supplement the way ephedrine has been. I will give it a try and post results if it is any good. I know it won't hold shit against adderall, however, if anyone has a large caffeine tolerance it may be a good alternative/combination.

On a side note, I recently tried the much talked about 1, 3-Dimethylamylamine and was not impressed. There are definite speedy qualities to it when combined with caffeine, but I would not say it is very effective at all.

I may also try the ephedrine with the 1, 3-Dimethylamylamine and caffeine, in small amounts to start with and see how it works out.
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Old 2008-12-02, 07:30
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I dunno if it's state law, federal law, or company policy, but at the gas station I work at we're not allowed to sell people more than 2 boxes of cold medicine (pseudoephedrine and guifensen) a day and no more than 18 a month. The minimum age to buy it is 18.
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Old 2008-12-03, 06:43
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I have snorted 250mg of psuedophedrine, it was just like drinking coffee kind of woke me up but i didn't enjoy.
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Old 2008-12-03, 07:33
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I have snorted 250mg of psuedophedrine, it was just like drinking coffee kind of woke me up but i didn't enjoy.
...wtf?
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Old 2008-12-03, 09:17
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I'm really not in the mood to correct all the bullshit in this thread, so I am only making this post to inform you people that you need to pull your heads out of your collective asses. So much conjecture, ignorance and fucking laziness.


I don't know why the fuck people insist on talking about shit they don't know, and don't even bother to check first, or AT LEAST say, I THINK SO, ya know, a qualifier to indicate that you are NOT 100% certain.
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Old 2008-12-03, 20:48
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...wtf?
Theres 120 mgs of psuedophedrine in Claritin D, Crushed up 2 then snorted
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Old 2008-12-03, 23:59
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I have no health insurance and asthma, so I am familiar with an inhalant type bronco-dilator, that was also available in pill form. I thought the active drug was epinephrine, not ephedrine.

These may be different products but the cvs I got this in didn't id me or take my name down at all, it cost $21.50.

Sorry no meth for you. But it is still extremely good to mix with weed, especially indo strains a few puffs and its like doing a rail of coke. Picks you up, opens up your throat and lungs, and overall makes you feel great.

Now that I got that out it had a warning about not using it more then nine times during a twenty-four hour period. I averagely take three per session, one session a day. How dangerous is that, what is the lethal dose?
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Old 2008-12-04, 01:10
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Your ALL morons.
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Old 2008-12-04, 01:16
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Old 2008-12-04, 06:58
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Snorting Claritin?
Pseudoephedrine and Ephedrine the same thing?

Jesus Fucking Christ, you are all retarded.
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Old 2008-12-04, 20:30
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I have no health insurance and asthma, so I am familiar with an inhalant type bronco-dilator, that was also available in pill form. I thought the active drug was epinephrine, not ephedrine.

These may be different products but the cvs I got this in didn't id me or take my name down at all, it cost $21.50.

Sorry no meth for you. But it is still extremely good to mix with weed, especially indo strains a few puffs and its like doing a rail of coke. Picks you up, opens up your throat and lungs, and overall makes you feel great.

Now that I got that out it had a warning about not using it more then nine times during a twenty-four hour period. I averagely take three per session, one session a day. How dangerous is that, what is the lethal dose?
Well how dangerous is it?
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Old 2008-12-05, 00:44
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I have no health insurance and asthma, so I am familiar with an inhalant type bronco-dilator, that was also available in pill form. I thought the active drug was epinephrine, not ephedrine.

These may be different products but the cvs I got this in didn't id me or take my name down at all, it cost $21.50.

Sorry no meth for you. But it is still extremely good to mix with weed, especially indo strains a few puffs and its like doing a rail of coke. Picks you up, opens up your throat and lungs, and overall makes you feel great.

Now that I got that out it had a warning about not using it more then nine times during a twenty-four hour period. I averagely take three per session, one session a day. How dangerous is that, what is the lethal dose?
There is absolutely no way any of you are getting meth from walmart PE or ephedrine. Not even if they gave you 10 free boxes under the table.


Also, some of you are probably buying Phenyleprine(which is presently marketed as Sudafed). Phenyleprine is just an expensive rip off that is sold as modern sudafed and doesn't work. So yeah. No meth. And guess what else, no sinus relief either.
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Old 2008-12-05, 04:19
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There is absolutely no way any of you are getting meth from walmart PE or ephedrine. Not even if they gave you 10 free boxes under the table.


Also, some of you are probably buying Phenyleprine(which is presently marketed as Sudafed). Phenyleprine is just an expensive rip off that is sold as modern sudafed and doesn't work. So yeah. No meth. And guess what else, no sinus relief either.
This has nothing to do with what I wrote, I specifically wrote that I in fact was an asthmatic and that the bronco dilators in my area were epinephrine. Apparently ephedrine is also available in pill form for asthma treatment over the counter as well.

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OTC epinephrine is available in various concentrations for oral inhalation or as a solution in vaporized form (nebulization). Both forms may or may not contain alcohol or sulfite as preservatives. For example, AsthmaHaler Mist does not contain alcohol. Alcohol and sulfite preservatives may trigger an attack of asthma, and therefore, patients whose asthma is sensitive to these preservatives should read product labels carefully. The nebulized epinephrine solutions may or may not require diluting with a separate saline (salt) solution before use. Several saline solutions are available OTC in various concentrations. Again, careful reading of the label will provide information about combining an epinephrine solution for nebulization with a specific saline solution. Oral epinephrine is unavailable because it is rapidly broken down in the digestive system before it can reach the lungs. Once inhaled, epinephrine should provide rapid relief of symptoms (within five to 10 minutes) and continue working for one to three hours. Good inhaler and nebulizing techniques are critical in the use of epinephrine. If epinephrine is used frequently, tolerance to its effects occurs; that is, repeated inhalations provide progressively less and less benefit. Some of these inhalers use a chlorofluorcarbon (CFC) propellant. These gases have been shown to damage the ozone layer. The FDA is likely to expand the ban on CFC propellants making these agents unavailable in the near future.

OTC ephedrine is available only as an oral medication in combination with guaifenesin as caplets, tablets, or syrup. (Guaifenesin is an expectorant that loosens mucus in the airways and facilitates its removal by coughing.) Caution should be used when first starting these products since they occasionally irritate the airways of some patients and may make the asthma worse. OTC ephedrine should provide relief of symptoms within 15-60 minutes and may continue to be effective for three to five hours. Continued use of ephedrine, like frequent use of epinephrine, leads to tolerance.
http://www.medicinenet.com/asthma_ov...ment/page2.htm
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Just a note EPINEPHRINE IS ADRENALINE and EPHEDRINE IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT thing altogether, easy to get confused.

Pseudoephedrine will not be used as an energy booster as it also creates high blood pressure and leaves one feeling jittery and stressed. Ephedrine is used for its energy giving effects and has been for hundreds of years. I believe the negative publicity is just a method to get ephedrine off the shelves so as to remove one ingredient from meth production, a key one in one of many different processes - However, laws of supply and demand dictate that if there is a market, if there's money to be made, iit shall be supplied one way or another.

The losers are the public as another medication that worked well is removed from the shelf and along with it a viable medication.
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