I have some dark brown and really hard Heroin. It seems consistent with the pictures I have seen online and my friends have done some of the same batch and said it was good. I started with a tiny bump (railed) and felt barely any effects. Then I took a small rail and again felt little but I did experience small pupils and got really itchy. The third time I did a bit more and felt good until I started feeling like I could not breath and then had rapid breathing. Did I do to much or placebo or what might have happened. I have done a decent amount of research but want some tips and advice from some one with experience. >NK1<.

I got you.


Don't do H kid.

peace.

Sounds like the dope was cut with something but like the above poster said Don't do H. Finally got of the shit after going to rehab for a month.

Ask anyone who tried heroin if they regret it..

Snorting the dark shit is not the way to make it work well. Get a needle. It's efficient. Also, shut up you worthless potheads.

i've never done nor seen heroin, but isn't the dark stuff (black tar heroin) the kind that is smoked?

Yes and no.
There is black/dark brown sticky tar, which is mostly seen on the west coast.

There is also some brown powder heroin which is nothing more than tar that is cut with baking powder; it'll turn back into tar if you heat it/breath on it.

There is some brown/tan colored powder that is just that - powder. Quality varies I hear.

Then there is the white dope. Being white doesn't necessarily mean purer dope, as it could be cut with anything that is powder & white in color. Alot of people call this white colored dope "china" no matter whats in it.

Alot of different varieties/forms.

Peace.

quit while you are ahead. trust me, i am a heroin addict as we speak. i have sold all of my possessions, stolen from everyone who loves and trustED me and have pretty much turned into a total piece of shit. i was a strong willed individual who used drugs recreationally, heroin released a part of my brain that i cannot turn off, a constant hunger for more heroin no matter how much i have or how well i keep myself busy.

i am not exaggerating a bit of this, i am actually in the process of typing a 5-6 page account of my battle with this drug that i intend on posting at erowid. i feel it is my duty to keep people the fuck away from that evil evil drug. it will befriend you, hell become your best friend then reel you in day by day, dose by dose until the control shifts from you to it and then it stops giving a shit about you and takes all you have to offer leaving you sick and withdrawling..

edit and if you aren't going to heed my advice and you are the type who needs to learn lessons on their own go buy a 100 pack of 30 gauge short tip ultra fine "insulin" syringes to use for future use. i give you 3-4 months until you are just as i described above.

Yes and no.
There is black/dark brown sticky tar, which is mostly seen on the west coast.

There is also some brown powder heroin which is nothing more than tar that is cut with baking powder; it'll turn back into tar if you heat it/breath on it.

There is some brown/tan colored powder that is just that - powder. Quality varies I hear.

Then there is the white dope. Being white doesn't necessarily mean purer dope, as it could be cut with anything that is powder & white in color. Alot of people call this white colored dope "china" no matter whats in it.

Alot of different varieties/forms.

Peace.
lol i see so many mistakes in your so called knowledge.

1. the "brown/tan colored powder".. i know what you are referring to, when they turn tar into powder and it isn't fucking baking soda.. it is pure diphenhydramine (typically dormin capsules) whipped into the tar (either with a spoon and plate or more often with a electric coffee gringer)

as far as powdered dope goes (raw) color does not mean a god damn thing. the only true test other than using it, is its smell. i've had bags that are damn near poop brown that are awesome and others taht were shitty, i've had concrete gray shit that was amazing and other that was shitty, i've had pure pure white shit and few and far between it was good but for the most part it was just cut heavily with the aforementioned dormin capsules.

quality varies so greatly, that is why you find one good dealer who buys his shit consistently from his superiors and stick with 'em.

H. isn't something to fuck with. Don't do it again for a long time, or preferrably ever, because it WILL fuck up your life if you get addicted.

OP: its poison. ur gonna die

lol i see so many mistakes in your so called knowledge.

1. the "brown/tan colored powder".. i know what you are referring to, when they turn tar into powder and it isn't fucking baking soda.. it is pure diphenhydramine (typically dormin capsules) whipped into the tar (either with a spoon and plate or more often with a electric coffee gringer)

as far as powdered dope goes (raw) color does not mean a god damn thing. the only true test other than using it, is its smell. i've had bags that are damn near poop brown that are awesome and others taht were shitty, i've had concrete gray shit that was amazing and other that was shitty, i've had pure pure white shit and few and far between it was good but for the most part it was just cut heavily with the aforementioned dormin capsules.

quality varies so greatly, that is why you find one good dealer who buys his shit consistently from his superiors and stick with 'em.

Calm down junk master 556.

1. Are you sure? I know dormin is used to cut dope with, but I mostly see it used with heroin that is ALREADY powder. I've never seen/heard of tar being cut down/turned into powder with diphenhydramine. I'm not doubting you, it's just that i've always heard of baking powder, not baking SODA, baking POWDER, being used for tar.

2. Color doesn't mean a thing. Um, didn't I just say that? "Alot of different varieties/forms".

Peace.

watcha gotta do is shoot it up and do it once a day at most then move on to doing it twice a day, three times a day, etc.

Calm down junk master 556.

1. Are you sure? I know dormin is used to cut dope with, but I mostly see it used with heroin that is ALREADY powder. I've never seen/heard of tar being cut down/turned into powder with diphenhydramine. I'm not doubting you, it's just that i've always heard of baking powder, not baking SODA, baking POWDER, being used for tar.

2. Color doesn't mean a thing. Um, didn't I just say that? "Alot of different varieties/forms".

Peace.

i am calm i am just properly informing you. in st louis that is a very common thing to convert tar into powder through that process. among niggas it is a stigma to shoot up (but its okay to snort a gram a day!!) so when powdered (raw) is not around you will see them take 4-5 caps of dormin, throw it in an electric coffee blender with a half g or so of tar and it comes out as a really nasty/burning powder that is snortable. another method is to just take the powdered dormin and the tar and press it against a china plate with a spoon until the two combine just like it would in a blender.

anytime you mix dormin and dope (raw or tar) it is called "whippin up"

i am calm i am just properly informing you. in st louis that is a very common thing to convert tar into powder through that process. among niggas it is a stigma to shoot up (but its okay to snort a gram a day!!) so when powdered (raw) is not around you will see them take 4-5 caps of dormin, throw it in an electric coffee blender with a half g or so of tar and it comes out as a really nasty/burning powder that is snortable. another method is to just take the powdered dormin and the tar and press it against a china plate with a spoon until the two combine just like it would in a blender.

anytime you mix dormin and dope (raw or tar) it is called "whippin up"

Okay cool. Like I said, never heard of that one before, nor have I been to St. Louis.
I'll add this one to the archive. Thanks for the info.

Peace.

What are you guys his fucking mother? Im sure the dude didnt come here for a fucking safety lecture.

You all know damm well that if anybody would of told you years ago" Hey, dont touch <insert drug of choice>, it will turn you into a complete fiend and a worthless piece of shit" you guys wouldnt of listened, especially not from somebody over the internet. Spare the lecture and just tell the kid what he needs to know. Hes going to do it regardless, atleast try to make it a little bit safer for him

Chase the dragon
Basically get a piece of tin foil cut it about 10 inch all the way round and heat witha a flame to take out bad chemicals get another piece of 'foil not so big about 2 inch in diameter and 5 in height fold the the long ways in on each other so they have a fold that touches now take pen cigarette whatever roll that piece of tinfoil round the cigarette whatever your using make a crevice all the way down the foil youll be smoking off the large part *do not fold just make it curvy so it will run straight* place lighter under heroin witha alow flame hold at an angle a asmall angle mind you and sook up the smoke thats coming off with the tooter you made from the foil earlier make sure your not to close to the beetle or you could hoover it up stay a lil bit awaw from it and when your chasing inhale slow and hold the smoke tada you know have done heroin

Happy nodding I know i was last night :)

My answer would be no, H. isn't bad.

Recreational use is the way to go.

the only true test other than using it, is its smell.

Go on...

i am not exaggerating a bit of this, i am actually in the process of typing a 5-6 page account of my battle with this drug that i intend on posting at erowid.

Make a thread or send me a PM or something when you do.

Go on...
Vinegar.

People need to quit tripping about heroin being so addictive. Heroin is not any more addictive than the some of the schedule 2 prescription opioids and you don't see any one freaking about those.

Abusing opiates is bad kids.

I've always wondered...if you were a junkie on a high dose regimen and you got hit by a car and taken to the hospital...can you imagine how much pain you would be in when the morphine drip did nothing more than keep you from withdrawing? For me, this is reason number 1 not to be opiate-dependent. In times of extreme physical discomfort/pain opiates are like a massage from God.

Go on...

go on about what? the smell? shit i dunno it smells like vingegar and nasty chemically-ness. it's hard to describe but once you know the smell you don't forget it.

go on about what? the smell? shit i dunno it smells like vingegar and nasty chemically-ness. it's hard to describe but once you know the smell you don't forget it.

I want to know how to judge good heroin. I guess it's kinda like pot, once you've smelled/smoked enough you just know.

i once worked with a kid that shot up. first time, he fell asleep with all of his weight on one leg for 17 hours. he now has no muscle control and his leg is a useless stump that he limps around on. youve already railed it, dont go to needles man. quit while your ahead.

5char

I want to know how to judge good heroin. I guess it's kinda like pot, once you've smelled/smoked enough you just know.

smell is really the only way to know prior to using. a few little tips i've picked up over time are 1. if it is rocky it is probably better because if it's powdered some dumb nigga could've thrown a bunch of diphenhydramine in there right before giving it to you and 2. how hard it is to break the rock up. i've found that the rocks that damn near impossible to break up are the most potent typically. also when you are crushing your rock up it should release a really potent chemically/vinegar smell into the air. how much dope have you done?

come to the lou ill show you how the dope pros get down

how much dope have you done?

None. :( I just don't want to get ripped off by niggers/money hungry faggots.

blow the damn stamp already. $10 worth of dope will not get you high x times. it just never works that way, ever...


its heroin for fucks sake, not poison.

^You should, if at all possible, try to find a friend who already uses heroin and let them find the good shit and go in on some with 'em. Otherwise you're bound to get ripped off. Dope is pretty much impossible to gauge without actually trying.

A stamp bag should have a very small amount of brown powder. The smaller the better, the best dope I've ever done (only tried two kinds, but this stuff was renowned) was light tan and weighed about 15 mg per stamp. The bags were lottery tickets from Detroit. The word on the forums is that the tickets from Detroit are bomb.

I don't think it should be in rocks...that shit sounds sketch.

None. :( I just don't want to get ripped off by niggers/money hungry faggots.

then my advice is to not to do it until a trust worthy friend offers helping you out.

going fishing on your own = not knowing the lingo or part of town = getting ripped off/jumped etc

going through someone who you consider yourself to be cool with that is a dope head = him skeeting you completely or not giving you hardly what you paid for..

dope isn't like crack or coke or anything else.. these people physically need it to carry their lives on in a normal way.. to get that sickness out of you knowing all it takes is $10-20 worth of dope you will scam damn near anyone for that piece of dope.

like i said come to the lou and find out how to get down.

I don't think it should be in rocks...that shit sounds sketch.

LOL youve obviously never done more than $10 worth.. i buy about a $40-60 piece ever 2 days or so and it is a nice sized little rock of tan/brown powder. i feel sorry for you if you've never seen rocks of dope. my dude has half keys sitting around of the shit.

^Well if you buy it by the bundle, it doesn't come in rocks now does it?

vilbe back me up.

buying bundles is fuckin stupid, i buy quarter grams, half grams and grams.. you get way more for your money. around here if you drop $100 on a "bundle" you get 13 bags. if you drop $75 on a half gram, you get about 15-18 doses.. and it's of higher quality.

a big rock of dope, reminds me what santa forgot last year...

usually bundles are already wrapped up, grams can be quite rocky...

then my advice is to not to do it until a trust worthy friend offers helping you out.

going through someone who you consider yourself to be cool with that is a dope head = him skeeting you completely or not giving you hardly what you paid for..

dope isn't like crack or coke or anything else.. these people physically need it to carry their lives on in a normal way.. to get that sickness out of you knowing all it takes is $10-20 worth of dope you will scam damn near anyone for that piece of dope.

like i said come to the lou and find out how to get down.

Not as easy as it sounds.

I don't know any dope heads, I knew one or two former dope heads, but they would never, never help me get my hands on dope.

I am very aware. Like I said in the other thread, I have felt the pain of having a family member who succumbed to that addiction. As much as everything I have observed and been told about drugs, opiates in particular the allure is too great for me to not want to shoot/snort/smoke some fucking heroin.

From the sound of things I would love to, I take it I'm treating?

my dude has half keys sitting around of the shit.

(I know they are not the same thing)

Sounds like my old weed guy; pounds and pounds of the sticky stuff sitting next to stacks of money. His shitty house looked like a fucking rap video.

(I know they are not the same thing)

Sounds like my old weed guy; pounds and pounds of the sticky stuff sitting next to stacks of money. His shitty house looked like a fucking rap video.

not my dude he is a respectable ass dude. he lives in the hood but has a kept up house, has a 9-5, pays for all his wives shit and makes sure his son has a good upbringing.. one of the few out there doin it big like him and keepin himself modest.

not my dude he is a respectable ass dude. he lives in the hood but has a kept up house, has a 9-5, pays for all his wives shit and makes sure his son has a good upbringing.. one of the few out there doin it big like him and keepin himself modest.

My white dude (the one I was referring to) did not do that. He was a gangster, no wife, no kids; just lots of weed, money and guns.

My first dealer (spic) sold crack and weed. He kept a nicer house than mine, didn't use drugs and kept his baby-mama and kids fed/clothed. He was a stone cold gangster when necessary but was smart and polite. He kept all business-talk away from his family.

When you have hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of heroin sitting around how can someone be so responsible? (read: not shoot/sniff it all, not buy trivial shit, etc.).