It occurred to me: Why the hell do we (men) allow women to be critical of our sexual performance? Most often, women open their legs and lay there like a warm, moaning corpse while the man tries to get both of them off. How do they have the nerve to complain when they don't orgasm, and why do men take their shit? Maybe if women put some effort into sex, they wouldn't have trouble getting orgasms.

I think there needs to be a sexual revolution, because as it currently stands, women are like the monarchs of this shit. They have complete control over it, they do none of the work (or rather, they don't do most of the work), and they get to complain nonstop.

becouse some woman actauly do put effort into sex.

when i fuck a girl and she lies there like a bag of mellons i am out and gone before she can wake up from her coma...

i expect a woman to respond in kind. sounds, movement, contact. if sex were a one-way street do you seriously think most people would be out there and getting it on? the hand works perfectly fine for the one-way street...

..then again thats the only way you are familier with it seems.

Even if they are doing some thrusting, it usually isn't reallly on par with our work. If we're on top, we have to hold ourselves up and thrust, which is a pretty energy-draining position. If women are on top, they can sit and rock back and forth, which is a pretty easy thing to do. Unless women spend most of the time on top, or you do it in an inclined position...I just can't see it as being an equal contribution.

Also: Don't start being an idiot just because I don't have a whipped, pussified, PC attitude towards women and sex. Grow a pair.

Yo,

when she throws it back...


MOOOOOONNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's because they have vaginas.

Have you noticed the amount of insecure wussbags that are popping pretty much everywhere? Sometime ago men got home from work, wanted his food ready and his bitch with her legs open and sleep afterwards. No complaining, and both were seemingly happy.

In the past, if I let the girl she'd ride me like a bull. Not just rocking back and forth, but fully doing all the 'thrusting'. It's only by choice I choose to get us both off, I enjoy it, see it as a challenge and prefer to be the dominant one the majority of the time.

Although when it comes to doggy I would like it if the girl would relieve me and touch her self. That would make my job a shit load easer.

Men don't allow women to be critical of anything that we do, not real men anyway. You fucking fag.

Is it like that in Mexico too, or are you talking about our culture?

And yeah, seriously...they had such a horrible existence having to take care of their kids (which is really only a demanding job when the kids are like...under 5) and cook dinner while their husbands spent all day making money.

You ever hear about wives of firefighters or policemen who get all frustrated and want divorces because their husbands don't tell them about their workday? Seriously, I often feel like women deserve a lot of the mysogynism they get.

Is it like that in Mexico too, or are you talking about our culture?

And yeah, seriously...they had such a horrible existence having to raise their kids and cook dinner while there husbands spent all day making money.

You ever hear about wives of firefighters or policemen who get all frustrated because their husbands don't tell them about their day? Seriously, I often feel like women deserve a lot of the mysogynism they get.

Yep, it was the same thing. Like the other guy said, don't ever allow a woman, or anyone for that matter, to be critical of what you are doing.

Yep, it was the same thing. Like the other guy said, don't ever allow a woman, or anyone for that matter, to be critical of what you are doing.

I haven't been criticized for sex, but I haven't asked, and I haven't had sex with enough bitches for such news to really make it back to me.

But I hate the position that men have let themselves fall to. I mean, we don't necessarily have to be "dominant", but I hate how the sex game is so fucked up in favor of women. Next time I hear a woman complain about her partner being bad at sex, I'm going to interrupt, and tell her she's a stupid, lazy twunt if she can't get herself off while having sex. The only exception is if the guy cums too fast and then goes to sleep, or can't get it up, in which case she has a valid complaint.

this.

I haven't been criticized for sex.

Liers go to hell, did you know that?

this is a fucking ignorant post. just what we need..another arrogant male in this society thinking that they are god's gift or some shit just because he did a little extra thrusting than he wanted to. if you are going to complain about your sex maybe you should have more partners before you have the balls to say we lie there like a fucking bean bag chair.
simple solution make your expectations higher when it comes to choosing who you are going to have sex with. if it is someone you respect, and not just a girl you are going to call a 'bitch' maybe you will get a little more pleasure both ways. think with you head...and not the one between your pants.

If the guy can keep it up and keep it going for a reasonable amount of time (and assuming your vagina isn't too wide, or is dick isn't too small), then you should be able to get off. If you can't, don't bitch about the guy. Period.

If a guy was sitting back, letting a girl ride him, and he was bitching about not being able to cum, I'd tell him the same thing.

If the guy can keep it up and keep it going for a reasonable amount of time (and assuming your vagina isn't too wide, or is dick isn't too small), then you should be able to get off. If you can't, don't bitch about the guy. Period.

If a guy was sitting back, letting a girl ride him, and he was bitching about not being able to cum, I'd tell him the same thing.

No girls bitch about whiny men, and ones that find it awkward to fuck. Much like you obviously.

If the guy can keep it up and keep it going for a reasonable amount of time (and assuming your vagina isn't too wide, or is dick isn't too small), then you should be able to get off. If you can't, don't bitch about the guy. Period.

If a guy was sitting back, letting a girl ride him, and he was bitching about not being able to cum, I'd tell him the same thing.

well that sounds like that is all you have eperienced. so stop sleeping with girls who do nothing but have sex. find someone who is willing to put in just as much effort as you. you shouldn't have to bitch about sex if you are doing it with someone you care about or respect.
the fact that you have settled for girls who lay their like you should be doing them the favor says a lot about yourself now doesn't it.

Thats what yer mum said, eh?

Who am I talking too?

Whoever it fits eh.

well that sounds like that is all you have eperienced. so stop sleeping with girls who do nothing but have sex. find someone who is willing to put in just as much effort as you. you shouldn't have to bitch about sex if you are doing it with someone you care about or respect.
the fact that you have settled for girls who lay their like you should be doing them the favor says a lot about yourself now doesn't it.

This has nothing to do with me. I'm making a general statement because I often hear women whining about men's performance. Try addressing that instead of trying to make judgements about me and my sexual partners.

This has nothing to do with me. I'm making a general statement because I often hear women whining about men's performance. Try addressing that instead of trying to make judgements about me and my sexual partners.

i just don't think you have much room so say anything. you can't make solid opinions and solid facts if you go by only what you hear. that makes no sense. you were never in that bedroom fucking that girl who was complaining. you can't possibly know what went on.
so narrow minded. you should base your opinions on actual experience next time if you are going to post a thread against women.
bullshit. 'i often hear women whining about men's performance'
LAME.

i just don't think you have much room so say anything. you can't make solid opinions and solid facts if you go by only what you hear. that makes no sense. you were never in that bedroom fucking that girl who was complaining. you can't possibly know what went on.
so narrow minded. you should base your opinions on actual experience next time if you are going to post a thread against women.
bullshit. 'i often hear women whining about men's performance'
LAME.

The first thing I said was "Why do we allow women to be critical of our sexual performance". If you aren't critical of men's sexual performance, then this doesn't concern you.

And although it perhaps wasn't fair of me to say that 'most often, women lay there like a moaning corpse" (that was admittedly a slight exaggeration), I think it's bullshit to think that the majority of women put in nearly as much energy as men.

you're all so insecure, he asked a good question, you don't have to prove your sexual prowess over the interwebs faggots.

This.

The first thing I said was "Why do we allow women to be critical of our sexual performance". If you aren't critical of men's sexual performance, then this doesn't concern you.

And although it perhaps wasn't fair of me to say that 'most often, women lay there like a moaning corpse" (that was admittedly a slight exaggeration), I think it's bullshit to think that the majority of women put in nearly as much energy as men.

alright. now let me say, i can see where this thread can relate to some people, but that obviously doesn't include you since you have no 'whiny' women in your bed. so why post?
if it is such bullshit to think to think that the majority of women put in effort as men, then here is something you should consider:

- it is bullshit to think that the majority of men really care about who their next fuck would be, and therefore why should we put in effort. im sorry but the majority of women view it as something more spiritual and emotional with the exception of few.

- or it is bullshit that we should sit here a view this thread as anything else but insulting.

-and it is bullshit for me to go on trying to tell you that you have a one track mind because i am denying the fact that you are not going to see it as something different. and don't get me wrong. i love men, i love sex, i put in my all, but you should disregard the whiny bitches. they aren't worth the fuck anyway.

alright. now let me say, i can see where this thread can relate to some people, but that obviously doesn't include you since you have no 'whiny' women in your bed. so why post?
if it is such bullshit to think to think that the majority of women put in effort as men, then here is something you should consider:

- it is bullshit to think that the majority of men really care about who their next fuck would be, and therefore why should we put in effort. im sorry but the majority of women view it as something more spiritual and emotional with the exception of few.

- or it is bullshit that we should sit here a view this thread as anything else but insulting.

-and it is bullshit for me to go on trying to tell you that you have a one track mind because i am denying the fact that you are not going to see it as something different. and don't get me wrong. i love men, i love sex, i put in my all, but you should disregard the whiny bitches. they aren't worth the fuck anyway.

Out of curiosity, what is "your all", in terms of physical movement?

Out of curiosity, what is "your all", in terms of physical movement?

you have to go with the flow. the fucking movement. what is the fun if you are just going to lay there? there is no fun in that.
it is all about experimentation, about positions. i usually think about where i am going to get the most benefit along with him. i like working up a fucking sweat i guess. personal preference.

also it doesn't hurt to switch up the dominance factor.

you're all so insecure, he asked a good question, you don't have to prove your sexual prowess over the interwebs faggots.

Yep, that.
I've only been with one girl, and she never complained, if anything I'd just get down on myself if I knew I only made her come 2-3 times. But regardless of my personal experiences, it's pretty obvious that women complain about bad sex more often than men do and it's often not justified, it's the sort of fact that you don't really need personal experience or a scientific article to back up.

But that's not to say a girl isn't allowed to be disappointed if she doesn't get off. I would be let down too. But if it's a couple that has sex a bunch and she can't get off, can't offer suggestions, and keeps on fucking the same guy anyways, bitching and moaning about it, she needs to take some blame. And this situation happens far too often.

it's pretty obvious that women complain about bad sex more often than men do and it's often not justified, it's the sort of fact that you don't really need personal experience or a scientific article to back up.


Yep. A guy's complaints about sex involve:

a) Not getting any.
b) Being too drunk to fuck.

or c) Banging a fat/ugly chick.

Yep. A guy's complaints about sex involve:

a) Not getting any.
b) Being too drunk to fuck.

or c) Banging a fat/ugly chick.

d) she just was laying there moaning like a lifeless corpse...

I'm just a pioneer, I guess.

The problem is not that women are critical of men not performing well when the man takes control of the situation. The problem is actually a part of a more larger, general problem women have with men. The problem being: We can't read their minds when they expect us to. Every woman is wired differently. So its not the easiest task to pleasure every woman. It would help a lot if the woman would give us feedback so we can add another notch to the "Women I have pleasured" list.

But lets face it, more time than not that ain't going to happen. Women somehow think that the right man for them will have some magical connection that will allow the guy to know exactly what she wants, when she wants at all times. While us guys are confused from them playing their mind games or just telling us one thing and expecting another. Its like another thread said on this forum. Guys say out loud to each other whether or not they would fuck a girl. We need confirmation. While girls just make slight gestures to their friends not out right saying they would fuck a guy, but giving the hint. They like to be clever and crafty.

Basically, women need to grow the fuck up and stop expecting whatever they have read in a novel or some TV show catered to women coming into reality. I'd say guys need to grow up also to be balanced in this reply, but lets look at what we are trying to balance here. Girls wanting men to read their minds and guys wanting girls to give them some kind of visual or auditory confirmation. If we try to put things into a realistic perspective between reading minds and just out loud saying what you want, we can see that we can't even balance the two based on premise. One is just fictional and one is just common sense. Apples and oranges.

out of curiosity, what would a girl giving it her all do.

But that's not to say a girl isn't allowed to be disappointed if she doesn't get off.


Unless she has told her partner what she needs to get off and her partner willingly ignores her, she has nothing to be disappointed in except for herself. We are in the times of equality people. Girls have to get theirs as much as guys do. Guys may take more control of the situation to get theirs, but girls are equals in this and they have to tell the guy in control what to control so they can get theirs as well. If not, they've done nothing for their situation unlike the guy who was trying to do something for his and, maybe most of the time, hers as well. I say maybe because I don't know if there are a lot of dicks out there just trying to get theirs. I'd lean towards not because guys like a pat on the back and a disappointed partner is not a pat on the back.

It depends on the woman honestly, some women do put effort into sex and some don't. You also have to take into consideration that it's generally a lot harder for a woman to cum than a man, it takes a lot more stimulation. Also, sometimes men can be pretty selfish and focus more on themselves than the girl, or they're just not that experienced. When that happens us women get enough stimulation to be horny but not enough to cum. So if your woman's bitching, you can try getting her off after you cum (using fingers or tongue) or you can try playing with her a little more before you guys fuck because that usually makes it a little easier for women to cum. Or you can just slap duct tape over her mouth, I guess.

I think that illustrates a key difference. When a guy has sex, he's having sex to get himself off. He should be courteous enough to try not to cum too quickly, but beyond that...it seems ridiculous to expect him to try to get you off. If everyone works on getting themselves off (ie. something that each party knows how to do), I think things would be just fine. I mean, if you aren't getting off from a guy thrusting, the logical thing would be to tell him to roll over and then start riding away.

I think that illustrates a key difference. When a guy has sex, he's having sex to get himself off. He should be courteous enough to try not to cum too quickly, but beyond that...it seems ridiculous to expect him to try to get you off. If everyone works on getting themselves off (ie. something that each party knows how to do), I think things would be just fine. I mean, if you aren't getting off from a guy thrusting, the logical thing would be to tell him to roll over and then start riding away.

not necassarily, for some girls being on top is better, but for others (like me) while we don't mind being on top, it is not stimulating at all. i think if a guy is really concerned that his girl isn't cumming, he can try harder. if it's just a fuck, he probably shouldn't worry about it. also, us girls tend to think that it's always the mans job to get us both off. it's not. we have fingers too, and a lot of times guys like to see them put to use.

not necassarily, for some girls being on top is better, but for others (like me) while we don't mind being on top, it is not stimulating at all. i think if a guy is really concerned that his girl isn't cumming, he can try harder. if it's just a fuck, he probably shouldn't worry about it. also, us girls tend to think that it's always the mans job to get us both off. it's not. we have fingers too, and a lot of times guys like to see them put to use.

Well, I'm glad that you realize it's not our job to get both people off. Tell your friends to stop being retarded, though.

Even if they are doing some thrusting, it usually isn't reallly on par with our work. If we're on top, we have to hold ourselves up and thrust, which is a pretty energy-draining position. If women are on top, they can sit and rock back and forth, which is a pretty easy thing to do. Unless women spend most of the time on top, or you do it in an inclined position...I just can't see it as being an equal contribution.

Also: Don't start being an idiot just because I don't have a whipped, pussified, PC attitude towards women and sex. Grow a pair.

If you for one second believe that it is not draining for a woman to be on top you are completley fucking misguided and ignorant.

It's fucking tough, it isn't just rocking back and forth either. It's a springing up and down movement which becomes very tiring on your thighs, legs, and calves depending on which leg you're using for the majority.

In bed, I absolutley hate lying there getting plowed. It's boring and not satisfactory to just lie in missionary the entire time. I love being on top, I love side positions, I love reverse cowgirl, I love pretty much exploring and trying new positions, so don't lump us all together.

I get so fucking mad when guys are always whining and bitching about how women don't do shit in bed and just lie there, I know that some women do in fact do that but if that's the case then she's obviously pretty bored with your performance overall so doesn't really give a shit and is just waiting for it to end.

Plus, men rate our sexual performance, bodies, titties, asses, whatever all the fucking time so why shouldn't we laugh at small penis' and pre-mature ejaculators? You can whine about it all you want, but guess what? We're still going to do it regardless because it's FUCKING FUNNY.

and yeah, I'm PMSing.

If you for one second believe that it is not draining for a woman to be on top you are completley fucking misguided and ignorant.

It's fucking tough, it isn't just rocking back and forth either. It's a springing up and down movement which becomes very tiring on your thighs, legs, and calves depending on which leg you're using for the majority.

In bed, I absolutley hate lying there getting plowed. It's boring and not satisfactory to just lie in missionary the entire time. I love being on top, I love side positions, I love reverse cowgirl, I love pretty much exploring and trying new positions, so don't lump us all together.

I get so fucking mad when guys are always whining and bitching about how women don't do shit in bed and just lie there, I know that some women do in fact do that but if that's the case then she's obviously pretty bored with your performance overall so doesn't really give a shit and is just waiting for it to end.

Plus, men rate our sexual performance, bodies, titties, asses, whatever all the fucking time so why shouldn't we laugh at small penis' and pre-mature ejaculators? You can whine about it all you want, but guess what? We're still going to do it regardless because it's FUCKING FUNNY.

and yeah, I'm PMSing.

We rate tits, ass, face, and whether we enjoyed fucking the girl, not your actual performance. As long as you still look good, have some nice stuff to grab, and we cum, then it's all good.

It's a springing up and down movement which becomes very tiring on your thighs, legs, and calves depending on which leg you're using for the majority.

I remember once telling a girlfriend that girls have it fucking easy, and the little work they do have to do is no where near as hard as what guys do. She then went on to say any retard can thrust like a man, but the movement in a woman takes much more rhythm and style and are a lot more harder on the body. I was like "psssh bullshit" so she told me to get on top and try and move like a girl. "Nope, you're doing it wrong"..."That's just rubbing back and forth" ... "you're moving like a retard"....aaaaand then my thighs started to cramp the fuck up. It's harder than it looks (to do it properly, I'd assume some chicks just 'bounce' if that makes any sense), and this girl could do so well and loved doing it when I'd let her.

But on the topic of chicks who bitch about a dudes performance, they just need to speak up and tell the dude what they want. I remember when I first got with my first girlfriend, I'm pretty sure I was the worst sex she'd ever had. Well, no, I was the worst sex. But she knew what she wanted, how she liked it, and was willing to teach. She'd SHOW me what she wanted, and even TELL me directly. Not all the time, but if she would it'd be so helpful. If it happens too much it's demoralizing, if it happens sometimes, it's fucking hot when a girl will tell you what she wants. By the end, I know with out a doubt in my mind that I was giving her the best sex she'd had in her life. Communication helps, and if a girl bitches about a dude because he's shit in bed before trying to help him along, it's her own fault. She's expecting a mind reader.

As long as you still look good, have some nice stuff to grab, and we cum, then it's all good.

I bet you have to beat the ladies off with a stick...

If she is just going to lie there and not do anything then she is a stupid cunt.
Sex is about giving and recieving. If you can't do both you are a cunt.

I remember once telling a girlfriend that girls have it fucking easy, and the little work they do have to do is no where near as hard as what guys do. She then went on to say any retard can thrust like a man, but the movement in a woman takes much more rhythm and style and are a lot more harder on the body. I was like "psssh bullshit" so she told me to get on top and try and move like a girl. "Nope, you're doing it wrong"..."That's just rubbing back and forth" ... "you're moving like a retard"....aaaaand then my thighs started to cramp the fuck up. It's harder than it looks (to do it properly, I'd assume some chicks just 'bounce' if that makes any sense), and this girl could do so well and loved doing it when I'd let her.

But on the topic of chicks who bitch about a dudes performance, they just need to speak up and tell the dude what they want. I remember when I first got with my first girlfriend, I'm pretty sure I was the worst sex she'd ever had. Well, no, I was the worst sex. But she knew what she wanted, how she liked it, and was willing to teach. She'd SHOW me what she wanted, and even TELL me directly. Not all the time, but if she would it'd be so helpful. If it happens too much it's demoralizing, if it happens sometimes, it's fucking hot when a girl will tell you what she wants. By the end, I know with out a doubt in my mind that I was giving her the best sex she'd had in her life. Communication helps, and if a girl bitches about a dude because he's shit in bed before trying to help him along, it's her own fault. She's expecting a mind reader.

thank you arquin!

I remember once telling a girlfriend that girls have it fucking easy, and the little work they do have to do is no where near as hard as what guys do. She then went on to say any retard can thrust like a man, but the movement in a woman takes much more rhythm and style and are a lot more harder on the body. I was like "psssh bullshit" so she told me to get on top and try and move like a girl. "Nope, you're doing it wrong"..."That's just rubbing back and forth" ... "you're moving like a retard"....aaaaand then my thighs started to cramp the fuck up. It's harder than it looks (to do it properly, I'd assume some chicks just 'bounce' if that makes any sense), and this girl could do so well and loved doing it when I'd let her.

and thats not going to get both of us off so who the fuck cares? if we are going to measure cocks on what part of sex is the most physically demanding, lets see a women hold their man up against the wall and fuck him to completion. sex is a lot like dancing in that you cant both lead. now perhaps you two had something worked out where you each like when she leads and you submit to her rhythm but for me, that isnt going to work. quite honestly it isnt going to work for many women either.

and thats not going to get both of us off so who the fuck cares? if we are going to measure cocks on what part of sex is the most physically demanding, lets see a women hold their man up against the wall and fuck him to completion. sex is a lot like dancing in that you cant both lead. now perhaps you two had something worked out where you each like when she leads and you submit to her rhythm but for me, that isnt going to work. quite honestly it isnt going to work for many women either.

What the fuck are you bitching about?