There IS cross tolerance between phenethylamines and tryptamines, right? To be more specific between DOC and 5-MEO-MIPT. Thanks.

There is, though to what extent i dunno


You reminded me of one time i had taken some 5-meo-dipt and right after i'd come down i took some mdma and all i felt was a speedy boost of energy but no mdma magic.

foxy ftw.
Last week i spaced DOC doses apart by 4 days and i just got the amphetamine-like alertness without any hallucinations.

I couldn't even taste my teeth, and we all know that your not really tripping until you can taste your teeth (they taste like pizza dough usually).

foxy ftw.
Last week i spaced DOC doses apart by 4 days and i just got the amphetamine-like alertness without any hallucinations.

I couldn't even taste my teeth, and we all know that your not really tripping until you can taste your teeth (they taste like pizza dough usually).

I'm not such a fan.. don't get me wrong foxy is pretty fun but i got these weird electric shock feelings in my neck and skull at around the peak and well it scared the shit outta me thinking what damage i might be doing.

That's odd, with DOM i could go 2 days in a row(though i don't recommend it, leaves you a bit fucked..) with a negligible drop in effects.

yea im not a fan of foxy either, have tried it about 30~ times. It really does a number on your muscles. It has crap visuals for the most part and the body high is meh. Feels like im just getting dumber when i do that drug and i dont have any cool insights like on other psychedelics.

I'm not such a fan.. don't get me wrong foxy is pretty fun but i got these weird electric shock feelings in my neck and skull at around the peak and well it scared the shit outta me thinking what damage i might be doing.

That's odd, with DOM i could go 2 days in a row(though i don't recommend it, leaves you a bit fucked..) with a negligible drop in effects.

I get that electric shock feeling from EVERY research chemical. Last night i was just laying in bed tripping balls on the DOC and every 30 seconds everything would just convulse and i'd have like a .5 second seizure, but it's pretty pleasant if your laying down. as for the damage, as ken kesey said "everything bruises something".

yea im not a fan of foxy either, have tried it about 30~ times. It really does a number on your muscles. It has crap visuals for the most part and the body high is meh. Feels like im just getting dumber when i do that drug and i dont have any cool insights like on other psychedelics.

yes, it does leave you feeling raped physically. I always feel like my tendons and myofascia are just contracting and going nuts. As for the visuals, the only REALLY hardcore visuals i ever got were from DOB, REALLY steep doses of LSD (2 mg+), and 700 mg of diphen (DO NOT RECOMEND). As for the insights, i agree, its more of a "lets feel really fucked up and fuck" kind of drug, not the "I CAN SEE EVERYTHING" kind.