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2008-11-26, 02:15

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I'm sorry, I know this type of thread has been done on BLTC before, but I have yet to read a concrete response. I tried google already too; to no avail.

Can anyone give me a reliable method of prepping OxyContin for I.V.? To heat or not to heat? How to filter out some of remaining binders? Is it really extremely dangerous (not only because it is I.V.) as per Perdue doctors?

I intend on using a 1/2cc 30 gauge syringe, spoon, lighter?, cotton ball, distilled water, alcohol prep pad...anything else? Can I use the veins on the underside of my forearm?

I'm looking at you 556, vilbe, panthrax (yeah right :rolleyes) etc...

2008-11-26, 02:36

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Looking at Beergoggles???

What kind of Oxy is it? OxyContin brand or Roxi? I've heard all sorts of myths surrounding heating oxys but I do not heat them. My reasoning is that there is a waxy material in the controlled release pills. Heating wax doesn't sound good to me.

Just make sure your water is distilled and sterile. If your unsure about sterility boil the water beforehand and then add the drug and mix while warm. I use a sterile Q-tip because it seems like a tighter rolled up cotton would filter better than a little ball of it. The solution in the rig should be CLEAR. NO CLOUDINESS AT ALL. If it is cloudy refilter it. If there is a dye in the pill like some of the roxi's then the water will be colored but CLEAR. I can't stress that enough. You still aren't getting all the fillers even if it is clear but it's alot safer.

You have a small rig. I use 1unit of water per mg of pill plus a little extra. So if I was shooting an 80 I would fill it with 1cc of water and probably only get back 60-70 units after filtering. The shit left in the spoon is stuff you don't want so don't think you aren't getting all your drug. There is some leftover but the binders aren't worth those few mgs.

Point the syringe needle up, flick it, push until a drop comes out and go to town. I usually sterilize not only my injection site but my needle as well. Remember, wipe in one direction otherwise you're spreading shit back and forth.

To prevent a skin pop, which is what causes most pill related abscesses to my understanding, I flag frequently as I shoot. I flag the first time and shoot 20-30 units, flag again, then shoot more, flag again then finish the job. Keep in mind I'm shooting 100mgs at a time or more. If it stops flagging stop shooting because you aren't in the vein.

Hopefully that helps you and anybody else out. I don't condone shooting pills or anything that isn't meant for shooting, because it is very bad for you over the long term. A few pills shouldn't do too much damage.

Edit: As far as veins go I've never actually used the one on the underside of my forearm because that seems awkward. I've had no problems shooting in the tops of my forearms, and the old standby in the crook of the arm is the easiest if you've never injected before. If you're using a fresh needle you shouldn't track too bad.

2008-11-26, 02:39

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Are you looking for a detailed guide on how to shoot or just a general guide on how to shoot specifically oxy?

The above guy pretty much summed up how to shoot oxy, but wasn't very descriptive on the actual injecting part. I'll give you a detailed guide on how to shoot if you need to, but I don't want to type that out if you already know how.

Edit: Just looked at your user name now. Nah, I won't be wasting my time helping you.

2nd e: I'll just say this to everyone else. Shooting oxy isn't that great. Like don't get me wrong, it feels fucking awesome, but in comparison to other opiates its not as great.

Ex. Morphine. Oral morphine sucks balls. Shooting it is fucking amazing. Same for heroin.

But oxy was designed to be taken primarily orally, ie, its got like an 80% absorption rate when taken orally, which is extremely high.

Shooting will make sure you don't waste the other 20% of your oxy, but the high will be generally the same as when taken orally, except come on instantly and have a better rush.

But generally shooting oxy isn't THAT much better then taking it orally. IMO its for people with really high tolerances and people who like the needle.

2008-11-26, 02:51

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Sure, you certainly seem to know what you are talking about.

All my shit is definitely sterile/distilled. Any particular way to grind the pill in the most sterile way possible?

Flag?

The reason why I am not using my elbow veins is because they are naturally small and difficult to find, however, the ones on the underside of my forearm are visible and look easy to hit. They seem O.K. to me. Confused

2008-11-26, 02:53

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Alright, if I should give an explanation on HOW to inject I guess I will.

Take a belt and loop it around your arm and pull tight. The vein in the crook of your elbow should be sticking out big. Sterilize the area then stick the needle in at an acute angle towards your bicep. Don't be afraid, this is how you fuck up shooting, just stick it in there firmly. Pull back on the plunger using your pointer finger while holding the needle like a pencil and hope for that blossom of blood. If you don't get it you might not be in deep enough, may have gone too far, or may have missed altogether. Try again. Now if you DO get that blossom loosen the tourniquet (make sure it doesn't fall off and get in the way or hit your rig) to lessen the blood pressure when injecting because the blood pressure combined with the injection might cause bruising. Then slowly inject and use that flagging technique I described earlier. Everyone I've met fucks up their first time so if all else fails it's Oxy, swallow your hit and lick your spoon clean.

I always lick my spoon clean anyways. I clean it next time I need it.

2008-11-26, 02:54

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lol I could help you out right now. In a way that would make this significantly easier for you. But nah, you're a cunt to me. So I'll just watch you fuck this up.

2008-11-26, 02:54

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I am looking for a detailed guide to specifically shoot oxy, I am familiar with how to shoot (in theory, not from experience).

At least you didn't troll my thread, thanks.

I want this to be my first I.V. opiate, I am still a bit skeeved by the idea of putting powdered street drugs directly into my veins.

2008-11-26, 02:59

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I cut it up into really small pieces on a clean plate with a sharp knife and then crush it on the plate with the back of the spoon. I then scoop it off the plate with the knife onto the spoon. Be careful your shit doesn't go flying because I've lost dope that way.

To flag means to pull back on the plunger and get a nice rush of blood into the syringe. This means that you are in the vein and not in the skin. If you pull back and nothing happens or you get a little dribble of blood you aren't in the vein well enough and might have to try again.

As far as the underarm veins, if you think you can hit them go for it. If I had something to inject right now (I'm currently clean and starting suboxone tommorow :D) I'd go test it out because I've never tried it there. Just remember when injecting in the forearm to loosen the tourniquet before you inject otherwise there'll be too much pressure built up and it'll bruise BAD. Oh yeah, those veins under your forearm will probably roll when your trying to shoot which could be difficult if you're not experienced.

Edit: Some of you guys are dicks. If he's going to do it I wan't him to at least do it the safest way possible and with the most knowledge possible. I had to teach myself most of this shit, and a lot I collected over reading in many places. It took me a long ass time to perfect shooting to a one-try-no-pain-no-mark process. I have never actually seen a DIY injection guide.

Edit #2: I prefer shooting Oxy to morphine/dilaudid/heroin because I like the feeling of it better. To each their own really. I HATE the morphine rush and I had a rash at the injection site and the hydromorphone rush freaked me out the first time.

2008-11-26, 03:02

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My first time shooting was almost flawless. Except after I got the needle in the first time I started to remove the tourniquet and the needle fucking fell out. So I had to do it all over again.
But other then that it went good. I know some tricks that get your veins bulging (even before a tourniquet is used) so it was pretty fucking easy.

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2008-11-26, 03:05

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I cut it up into really small pieces on a clean plate with a sharp knife and then crush it on the plate with the back of the spoon. I then scoop it off the plate with the knife onto the spoon. Be careful your shit doesn't go flying because I've lost dope that way.

To flag means to pull back on the plunger and get a nice rush of blood into the syringe. This means that you are in the vein and not in the skin. If you pull back and nothing happens or you get a little dribble of blood you aren't in the vein well enough and might have to try again.

As far as the underarm veins, if you think you can hit them go for it. If I had something to inject right now (I'm currently clean and starting suboxone tommorow :D) I'd go test it out because I've never tried it there. Just remember when injecting in the forearm to loosen the tourniquet before you inject otherwise there'll be too much pressure built up and it'll bruise BAD.

Ok.

I knew to do that, but I did not know the terminology. Thanks.

Gotcha. Thanks man.

If anyone knows anything else that may help me put bliss inspiring opiates into my veins with minimal negative effects, feel free to let me know. I don't have the oxy yet so there is still time.

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2008-11-26, 03:08

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Edit: Some of you guys are dicks. If he's going to do it I wan't him to at least do it the safest way possible and with the most knowledge possible. I had to teach myself most of this shit, and a lot I collected over reading in many places. It took me a long ass time to perfect shooting to a one-try-no-pain-no-mark process. I have never actually seen a DIY injection guide.

Very much appreciated.

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2008-11-26, 03:14

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What dose are you banging?

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2008-11-26, 03:17

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I was thinking of starting with 10-15mg (no tolerance). So that would be 12-17 units, that's a tiny ass shot.

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2008-11-26, 03:19

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If you weigh over 140 then I would step it up to at least 20mgs. A 10mg shot is hardly worth the hassle of injecting.

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2008-11-26, 03:26

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If you weigh over 140 then I would step it up to at least 20mgs. A 10mg shot is hardly worth the hassle of injecting.

I weigh 240, but opiates tend to be strangely effective for me, for my size. Maybe I will bump it up to 20mg... Second opinion?

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2008-11-26, 03:32

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I weigh 240, but opiates tend to be strangely effective for me, for my size. Maybe I will bump it up to 20mg... Second opinion?

I hate to agree with the guy, but yeah. 20mg for sure.

Remember you're probably going to lose some of the oxy in the filter.

If you're not where you want to be after the initial rush, snort another 10mg.

And squeeze out that filter and drink those yummy binders!

Mmmm...*sigh*

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2008-11-26, 03:32

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I weigh 240, but opiates tend to be strangely effective for me, for my size. Maybe I will bump it up to 20mg... Second opinion?

I don't think 20 would kill you. I never shot before I was eating 120mgs for a buzz so I couldn't tell you from experience. First thing I ever shot was heroin too.

Edit: Oh yeah, what KIND of Oxy are you getting? If they're the footballs forget it. If they're the round ones with the OC on one side then your in the clear. Just remove the coating first by wiping it off with a wet paper towel until it is white.

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2008-11-26, 03:36

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I hate to agree with the guy, but yeah. 20mg for sure.

Remember you're probably going to lose some of the oxy in the filter.

If you're not where you want to be after the initial rush, snort another 10mg.

And squeeze out that filter and drink those yummy binders!

Mmmm...*sigh*

Ok. It looks like I will be shooting 20mg.

I know about the tevas gelling up, I will be getting OC's. (plan b is MScontins)

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2008-11-26, 03:38

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I hate to agree with the guy, but yeah. 20mg for sure.

Remember you're probably going to lose some of the oxy in the filter.

If you're not where you want to be after the initial rush, snort another 10mg.

And squeeze out that filter and drink those yummy binders!

Mmmm...*sigh*

Believe it or not, outside of S&A (what with the cock toasting and whatnot) In Bloom isn't that bad.

Sounds like fun.

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2008-11-26, 03:39

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(plan b is MScontins)

Those gel too and are a BITCH to prep. I won't even inject them.

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2008-11-26, 03:40

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Believe it or not, outside of S&A (what with the cock toasting and whatnot) In Bloom isn't that bad.

Sounds like fun.

Thanks... I guess...

Anyways heres a tip I purposefully didn't mention before. Do some curls before you inject. Your veins will be bulging out before you even put on the tourniquet.

Do some curls and see if the veins in your elbow pop out. Don't do a real workout though, you don't want to have shaky hands while handling a needle.

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2008-11-26, 03:44

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Thanks... I guess...

Anyways heres a tip I purposefully didn't mention before. Do some curls before you inject. Your veins will be bulging out before you even put on the tourniquet.

Do some curls and see if the veins in your elbow pop out. Don't do a real workout though, you don't want to have shaky hands while handling a needle.

Take a hot shower > do curls > tourniquet > inject > nod.

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2008-11-26, 03:50

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Those gel too and are a BITCH to prep. I won't even inject them.

I was thinking of going to panthrax's website for the guide. I'm still not 100% sure what form of morphine my source has.

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2008-11-26, 10:12

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MSContins gel really bad. If you try it you'll probably waste a lot of drug.

20mg INJECTED with no tolerance? 20mg is the reccomended dose for intranasal/oral with no tolerance. If you bang 20mg with no tolerance you could well get too sick to have fun. I'd reccomend less, more like 10-15mg, especially since its your first time with the spike. You can always do more in another shot, but you cant untake what you done took.

Most people reccomend 2units per mg for oxy.

Why are you injecting with no tolerance? theres no point to using the spike unless you need to. You're just taking unnecessary risks. Hold off injecting until you have more experience with opiates.

If you insist on injecting then dont do it alone, at least not until you're familiar with it. If you know anyone who main lines have them help you. If not then just have someone else there to help if you get into trouble. Study up on it plenty, make sure you know what you're getting into.

Good luck...

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2008-11-26, 12:01

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After how many people ask on a regular basis how to IV so many different pills we should just make a sticky. Would be easier then getting a new one of these damned threads every week.

Stay safe,
Bos

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2008-11-26, 12:12

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2008-11-26, 13:33

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As far as the underarm veins, if you think you can hit them go for it.

I thought damn them veins stick out alot, then i went for it.

those veins under your forearm will probably roll when your trying to shoot which could be difficult if you're not experienced.

20 fucking "mosquito bites" later...:)

Then after they'd all healed i drunkenly shoot vodka and get it first go.. Mad

Anyway, my advice is to stare long and hard at your elbows until god grants you x-ray vision.

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2008-11-26, 19:32

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Flag is when you think you hit a vein pulling back the plunger to see if you regester blood. If you do, you are in a vein. Ahh ... I love when u get blood without even flagging but ti is not common.

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2008-11-26, 20:53

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Ok.

I thought the same thing, but they say because I am 240 I should bump it up. I may go with 15mg just to test the waters...

Dually noted.

I want to experience I.V. opiates. I have enjoyed them so much orally and I am readying myself to take it to the next level.

I have been reading up on injecting illicit drugs, but not enough information on injecting pills is available; that's why I posted this here.

Thanks.

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2008-11-26, 20:54

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2008-11-26, 20:56

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I thought damn them veins stick out alot, then i went for it.

20 fucking "mosquito bites" later...:)

Then after they'd all healed i drunkenly shoot vodka and get it first go.. Mad

Anyway, my advice is to stare long and hard at your elbows until god grants you x-ray vision.

My question was, is it safe to use those veins?

If I use a tourniquet on my elbow area my veins probably won't roll as much, if at all.

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2008-11-26, 21:24

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My question was, is it safe to use those veins?

If I use a tourniquet on my elbow area my veins probably won't roll as much, if at all.

I think you can use any vein as long as it's not an artery. To hit an artery would be quite difficult from my understanding, but I am by no means an expert on anatomy. Always remember to shoot towards your heart, or with the needle facing you.

On an unrelated note, during rehab I was told I should probably pursue a career as a nurse (manly nurse) because I was good at sticking other people with needles and a lot of people have problems with shitty IVs from nurses. My suboxone doc looked at my arms today and all I have is slight scarring in the crooks of my elbows and on my right bicep (my favorite vein to hit) after sticking my arms up to 7 times a day for months.

I feel so happy that I'm maintaining on suboxone. I don't have to have all the stresses of being an addict on top of being a full-time college student and part time worker. Please Adhesive, just be careful with how often you use. I was only an addict for two years and it was full of miserable times getting ripped off, waiting in shady parking lots at night while dopesick, shooting up in wal*mart parking lots, and selling my stuff and gas money to get drugs.

It's a life that nobody should have to live, and death is a very possible reality.

Since I gave you all the info you needed I had to say that stuff just to play devil's advocate :)

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2008-11-26, 21:46

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I think you can use any vein as long as it's not an artery. To hit an artery would be quite difficult from my understanding, but I am by no means an expert on anatomy. Always remember to shoot towards your heart, or with the needle facing you.

On an unrelated note, during rehab I was told I should probably pursue a career as a nurse (manly nurse) because I was good at sticking other people with needles and a lot of people have problems with shitty IVs from nurses. My suboxone doc looked at my arms today and all I have is slight scarring in the crooks of my elbows and on my right bicep (my favorite vein to hit) after sticking my arms up to 7 times a day for months.

I feel so happy that I'm maintaining on suboxone. I don't have to have all the stresses of being an addict on top of being a full-time college student and part time worker. Please Adhesive, just be careful with how often you use. I was only an addict for two years and it was full of miserable times getting ripped off, waiting in shady parking lots at night while dopesick, shooting up in wal*mart parking lots, and selling my stuff and gas money to get drugs.

It's a life that nobody should have to live, and death is a very possible reality.

Since I gave you all the info you needed I had to say that stuff just to play devil's advocate :)

The seem to line up with the veins opposite my elbow anyway, so I doubt it.

I very aware of what opiate addiction does to people. My cousin went to rehab when I was young (but still old enough to remember) for his crippling heroin addiction. Before his OD he was doing up to $300 of dope a day. He sold everything of value, borrowed as much money as he could from everyone he knew and stole things from his job. He got clean and we are great friends today.

I am not too worried about addiction, though I am really cautious. I have some serious self control and plenty of ambitions. Do not think that I take this decision lightly. Thanks for helping me out.

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2008-11-26, 23:36

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If I use a tourniquet on my elbow area my veins probably won't roll as much, if at all.

Oh yes they will.

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2008-11-27, 01:44

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Since when is it recommended that someone with zero tolerance bang 20 mg?

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2008-11-27, 02:10

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Since when is it recommended that someone with zero tolerance bang 20 mg?

That's what I was thinking. I am going to start with 15mg. Anyone?

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2008-11-27, 07:02

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That's what I was thinking. I am going to start with 15mg. Anyone?

15mg max. I reccomend 10mg for your first shot. Hell, 5mg might even be better just to be safe.

(Don't take this as an endorsement of you injecting btw)

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2008-11-27, 20:45

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15mg max. I reccomend 10mg for your first shot. Hell, 5mg might even be better just to be safe.

(Don't take this as an endorsement of you injecting btw)

I am legitimately 240lbs, 6' 3". So I'm thinking 15mg? Maybe I will bump it down to 10? Confused

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2008-11-27, 20:54

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I've shot 20mgs of oxy with no tolerance when I weighed like 140 pounds. And that wasn't even close to being too much.

Do not shoot 5 mgs, thats a total waste. I recommend at least 15mgs. If thats not enough snort another 5-10.

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2008-11-27, 20:59

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I think I'm going to start with 10mg. I don't have a shortage of fresh needles, I have a good amount of money to buy more oxy (if I can) and I can always snort some more if necessary like you said.

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2008-11-27, 21:06

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I think I'm going to start with 10mg. I don't have a shortage of fresh needles, I have a good amount of money to buy more oxy (if I can) and I can always snort some more if necessary like you said.

If you're only shooting 10mgs I can tell you exactly what will happen. It will feel awesome, and you will get high, but you will not nod.

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2008-11-27, 22:34

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If you're only shooting 10mgs I can tell you exactly what will happen. It will feel awesome, and you will get high, but you will not nod.

Sounds perfect.

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2008-11-28, 02:04

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Pfft, man, opiates are all about the nod.

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2008-11-28, 03:36

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Pfft, man, opiates are all about the nod.

wrong.

opiates are all about the initial rush of euphoria, then secondly about the nod.

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2008-12-08, 03:21

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Are you all F#@^ing stupid. This is how you get your kicks, and some of you are all f$#@ing proud about it. I messed with all the shit, as did my brother. Have you all been laying next to a toilet withdrawing, or spending everyday jammed forgetting things and dulling creativity. I bet a fair percentage of you people are musicians and I'd like to hear your latest. Or has there been nothing coming out because your sole aspiration is to be jammed. Guess what. You'll always want more, the high will never be enough, you'll destroy everything you love and you will regret all of it so before you sit there all high and mighty talking about how brilliant you are at being weak, and addicted, yet great at taking opiates into the veins, think about what your doing. Why don't you all go trip on some ayahuasca or something and do something worth while you get in touch with your mind instead of trying to dim all of the things that enter it. Go create things, and enjoy your life. Peace and I hope you all get better and start realising the things you'd like to be doing. good luck.