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Old 2008-11-25, 18:28
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Default Working in hotels - lots of questions.

Upmarket hotels have like temporary personal helpers who assist you with what ever you need. Like you book their dinner arrangements, get them flowers for the girlfriend, book the car, book their after dinner entertainment, take their luggage to their room, etc?

I'm really friendly, get along with people very easily, especially older people, I'm well spoken and pretty well presented. I want a job in the hospitality industry but don't know where to start.

Is it hard being a club bussy? Do you need lots of experience? I managed reception at a VERY busy hostel, but it's a different approach to hotels; I just lived there and had a phone at the front desk that guests would use to reach me 24/7. In hotels you sit behind a desk and are more....professional. Would this be a good place to start and do you need much experience?

Sorry if I've flooded you guys with questions, I just need to get my arse into gear and get a job.
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Old 2008-11-26, 23:02
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Upmarket hotels have like temporary personal helpers who assist you with what ever you need. Like you book their dinner arrangements, get them flowers for the girlfriend, book the car, book their after dinner entertainment, take their luggage to their room, etc?
LOL good question.
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Old 2008-11-26, 23:23
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Default Re: Working in hotels - lots of questions.

The title of what you're thinking of is a mixture of Concierge and Bellman.

Working at a front desk is a good place to start, but it's a bit more formal and computer-based than what you're used to doing. It doesn't take a whole lot of experience, but it does take some training and practice.

However, don't ignore the F&B (Food and Beverage) side of a hotel. There's banquets, porters, in room dining, servers, bartenders, hosts, etc. 60-80% of the money that comes into a hotel is from F&B.

Once you get your foot in the door, you can transfer to different jobs and departments within the hotel.

Any question you've got, feel free to ask. I've just been busy with different things and wanted to mull it over.

I've got a question for you as well. What's a good hotel in Melbourne?

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Old 2008-11-27, 00:45
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However, don't ignore the F&B (Food and Beverage) side of a hotel. There's banquets, porters, in room dining, servers, bartenders, hosts, etc. 60-80% of the money that comes into a hotel is from F&B.


I've got a question for you as well. What's a good hotel in Melbourne?
Jesus, I wouldn't have guessed that. Well I'll look in to working in a bar/club. I'd be willing to do anything in that environment. Serving food doesn't have much appeal, but I guess beggars cant be choosers. When I think of more questions I'll make sure to ask.

As for a good hotels there's Crown Towers (the only casino in the state) and The Stamford Plaza and the Grand Hyatt, all 5 star, amazing hotels.

Right near the CBD there's a suburb called St Kilda. It's the main tourist area of Melbourne. It's basically a strip of bars, hotels, clubs and restaurant all along the beach front (only 10 minutes away from the CBD). Only downside is I'm pretty sure there's no 5 star hotels here, only 4 star. But if that floats your boar, The Prince of Wales hotel is pretty cool. It's a very 'trendy' nightclub on week ends, has the best live entertainment all year round, an absolutely enormous wine cellar and is a pretty nice restaurant/hotel as well .

Sorry I don't know more about the CBD hotels, if you'd like I can look into some particular ones for you? Any requests? What exactly is it you'll be doing in a hotel atmosphere?
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Old 2008-11-27, 01:01
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Default Re: Working in hotels - lots of questions.

I'll probably have more questions to ask come February, but that's a good base of information. Thanks.

I'm just starting to think about jobs for when I get down to Melbourne. A couple days ago, I got approved to head down there for next semester. Is cash work available there? I'm only allowed to work, legally, for around 20 hours a week.

Bellman would probably be a good spot for you to start in on things, if you'd prefer to stay away from food for a while. It's a general labour job at a hotel, or resort, and you make decent tips. You get to know the entirety of the hotel, or resort, and deal with everybody in the hotel. It's a Front Desk position and you aren't chained to a desk. It can be a bit physical at times, but that can be good fun too. Bellmen have a good opportunity for advancement if they have a head on their shoulders.

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Old 2008-11-27, 01:25
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Is cash work available there? I'm only allowed to work, legally, for around 20 hours a week.
Heaps man. Although no big company will give cash jobs, it's all the smaller mum and pop places. Cafes, bars, restaurants and some hostels.

It will be tough living to support your self on 20 hours (depending on where you live it can even be impossible), if you weren't going to get a cash job would the Canadian government give you some type of assistance?
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Old 2008-11-27, 01:53
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I'll have free meals and fairly cheap housing available to me, so I shouldn't be too badly off. I've got a meeting tomorrow to talk about what kind of financial support I'll receive from the school and government, but I'm not expecting much; I've got 2500 CAD guaranteed to me and that's worth 3125 AUD. I'll probably hit up some friends to create some tax-deductible bursaries for me.

The money side of things is pretty up in the air at the moment. Any expenses I should keep in mind?

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