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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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 #1 
Old 2008-11-25, 03:53
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Default My morphine thread

Wasnt just about prices. I don't know why you closed it.

Can they be snorted?
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Old 2008-11-25, 03:55
activepsycho activepsycho is offline
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Yes, please, snort them for the love of God and beauty.
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Old 2008-11-25, 03:56
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yes they can be snorted, but oral administration yields a higher bio-availibility.

edit- unless you got chitosan

oral - 30%
IN- 10-20%
IN (with chitosan) - 60%
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Old 2008-11-25, 04:17
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Default Re: My morphine thread

It's oblong and brown and says ethex on one side and 30 on the other.

If I took eight vicodin and a benadryl will it be too much to take a quarter or so of the morphine? I got high off the vicodin but not too high. They were 5/500s
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Old 2008-11-25, 04:23
activepsycho activepsycho is offline
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Do it! Do it! You can take the whole thing, but bioavailability charts be damned, you should snort it!
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Old 2008-11-25, 05:30
hydroponichronic hydroponichronic is offline
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2 questions (3 technically...)
What's chitosan and where do I get it?

and

What about sublingual morphine? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it goes through the membrane, its in the bloodstream (that simple). Just let it sit there 'til it all goes through. One way trip should mean massive bioavailability.
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Old 2008-11-25, 06:36
helterskelter helterskelter is offline
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It is just some shit that ups the bioavailbity of morphine quite a bit^
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Old 2008-11-25, 06:50
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Default Re: My morphine thread

You can snort them but I wouldn't.

Also, as I've said before, you may be a little disappointed. Morphine works extremely well as a pain killer but recreationally you're probably expecting more than you're going to get.
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Old 2008-11-25, 07:00
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitosan

in before threadlock
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Old 2008-11-26, 00:34
hydroponichronic hydroponichronic is offline
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I read the wiki but I was hoping for something along the lines of "you buy it at _____ under the name ____."

But as for morphine recreation, it's along the same lines as other opiates. Most opes by themselves are more medicinal than anything else (there are a few notable exceptions). The trick to opiates is two things:

1. ALCOHOL: If you're not drinking on opiates, you're wasting your drugs. Booze with opes is quite possibly the STRONGEST DRUG INDUCED EUPHORIA you can get. Period. Even the shitty ones like vic and codeine. People will say "don't drink on opes, you'll kill your liver!!!" Those people are stupid. Only opes with acetaminophen (paracetamol) are bad for your liver. If acetaminophen-less opes, you're all in the clear.

2. NMDA ANTAGONISTS: DXM if you have it. Only like 45mg's though, otherwise it'll flavor your buzz. If not, daily magnesium supplements work just as well. Seriously. Just one magnesium pill per dose of ope, and another about an hour into the experience. While they do potentiate during, they PREVENT TOLERANCE AND ADDICTION. Once again, they PREVENT TOLERANCE AND ADDICTION. Well, physical addiction, at least. If you're talkin' mental, you're still fucked.
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Old 2008-11-26, 00:50
Aces N 8S Aces N 8S is offline
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God i just answered these questions last week.

Snorting and oral have the same bioavailability. Snorting usually has a quicker onset so that may be better.

a pH adjusted enema will double BA and PPC. Check the other thread if you want specifics.
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Old 2008-11-26, 19:34
hydroponichronic hydroponichronic is offline
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Originally Posted by Aces N 8S
God i just answered these questions last week.

Snorting and oral have the same bioavailability. Snorting usually has a quicker onset so that may be better.

a pH adjusted enema will double BA and PPC. Check the other thread if you want specifics.


AHEM...sublingual? I have yet to be corrected on why sublingual B.A. isn't 100% (meaning sublingual is the best option, especially considering that I.N. and oral B.A. is like 10%). Also, anyone care to comment on opes and alcohol being the best combo ever? In all honesty, most opes are not recreational in and of themselves (opinion).
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Old 2008-11-26, 20:51
Thermal Thermal is offline
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AHEM...sublingual? I have yet to be corrected on why sublingual B.A. isn't 100% (meaning sublingual is the best option, especially considering that I.N. and oral B.A. is like 10%). Also, anyone care to comment on opes and alcohol being the best combo ever? In all honesty, most opes are not recreational in and of themselves (opinion).

Sublingual... in my limited experience with sublingual - it is much much better than nasal and oral hydromorphone, and because HM is quite alike morphine in therms of BA, i dont see why sublingual morphine wouldnt be better than oral/nasal.

That being said, some opiates - such as fentanyl, have quite lower sublingual BA than buccal or transdermal.

Morphine sucks though, recreation-wise, so much that i would trade 10x30mg MS for 10x10mg hydrocodone any day.
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Old 2008-11-27, 02:30
helterskelter helterskelter is offline
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What the fuck man^

I would never give up that much morphine for fucking hydrocodone
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Old 2008-11-27, 02:42
hydroponichronic hydroponichronic is offline
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Originally Posted by helterskelter
What the fuck man^

I would never give up that much morphine for fucking hydrocodone


Concurrent. But only 'cause HC always has APAP in it. Even if it didn't, I've never been a bigt fan of HC for anything but pain relief. It's great for that, though.
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Old 2008-11-27, 03:06
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Default Re: My morphine thread

Dude, if you post another thread before you read the forum rules, I will ban you for a month.

Don't even try saying you did. BEcause if you had, you'd know that we don't allow price threads, and you'd also know that making threads like this are not allowed either.

You want to know why a thread was closed? Email a mod. Want to post here? Have some fucking content.
 
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