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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-11-25, 03:53
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My morphine thread
Wasnt just about prices. I don't know why you closed it.
Can they be snorted?
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#2
 2008-11-25, 03:55
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activepsycho 
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Re: My morphine thread
Yes, please, snort them for the love of God and beauty.
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#3
 2008-11-25, 03:56
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Re: My morphine thread
yes they can be snorted, but oral administration yields a higher bio-availibility.
edit- unless you got chitosan
oral - 30%
IN- 10-20%
IN (with chitosan) - 60%
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#4
 2008-11-25, 04:17
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Re: My morphine thread
It's oblong and brown and says ethex on one side and 30 on the other.
If I took eight vicodin and a benadryl will it be too much to take a quarter or so of the morphine? I got high off the vicodin but not too high. They were 5/500s
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#5
 2008-11-25, 04:23
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activepsycho 
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Re: My morphine thread
Do it! Do it! You can take the whole thing, but bioavailability charts be damned, you should snort it!
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#6
 2008-11-25, 05:30
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hydroponichronic 
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Re: My morphine thread
2 questions (3 technically...)
What's chitosan and where do I get it?
and
What about sublingual morphine? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it goes through the membrane, its in the bloodstream (that simple). Just let it sit there 'til it all goes through. One way trip should mean massive bioavailability.
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#7
 2008-11-25, 06:36
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helterskelter 
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Re: My morphine thread
It is just some shit that ups the bioavailbity of morphine quite a bit^
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#8
 2008-11-25, 06:50
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Re: My morphine thread
You can snort them but I wouldn't.
Also, as I've said before, you may be a little disappointed. Morphine works extremely well as a pain killer but recreationally you're probably expecting more than you're going to get.
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#9
 2008-11-25, 07:00
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fox 
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Re: My morphine thread
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitosan
in before threadlock
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#10
 2008-11-26, 00:34
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hydroponichronic 
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Re: My morphine thread
I read the wiki but I was hoping for something along the lines of "you buy it at _____ under the name ____."
But as for morphine recreation, it's along the same lines as other opiates. Most opes by themselves are more medicinal than anything else (there are a few notable exceptions). The trick to opiates is two things:
1. ALCOHOL: If you're not drinking on opiates, you're wasting your drugs. Booze with opes is quite possibly the STRONGEST DRUG INDUCED EUPHORIA you can get. Period. Even the shitty ones like vic and codeine. People will say "don't drink on opes, you'll kill your liver!!!" Those people are stupid. Only opes with acetaminophen (paracetamol) are bad for your liver. If acetaminophen-less opes, you're all in the clear.
2. NMDA ANTAGONISTS: DXM if you have it. Only like 45mg's though, otherwise it'll flavor your buzz. If not, daily magnesium supplements work just as well. Seriously. Just one magnesium pill per dose of ope, and another about an hour into the experience. While they do potentiate during, they PREVENT TOLERANCE AND ADDICTION. Once again, they PREVENT TOLERANCE AND ADDICTION. Well, physical addiction, at least. If you're talkin' mental, you're still fucked.
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#11
 2008-11-26, 00:50
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Aces N 8S 
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Re: My morphine thread
God i just answered these questions last week.
Snorting and oral have the same bioavailability. Snorting usually has a quicker onset so that may be better.
a pH adjusted enema will double BA and PPC. Check the other thread if you want specifics.
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#12
 2008-11-26, 19:34
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hydroponichronic 
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Re: My morphine thread
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Originally Posted by Aces N 8S
God i just answered these questions last week.
Snorting and oral have the same bioavailability. Snorting usually has a quicker onset so that may be better.
a pH adjusted enema will double BA and PPC. Check the other thread if you want specifics.
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AHEM...sublingual? I have yet to be corrected on why sublingual B.A. isn't 100% (meaning sublingual is the best option, especially considering that I.N. and oral B.A. is like 10%). Also, anyone care to comment on opes and alcohol being the best combo ever? In all honesty, most opes are not recreational in and of themselves (opinion).
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#13
 2008-11-26, 20:51
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Thermal 
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Re: My morphine thread
AHEM...sublingual? I have yet to be corrected on why sublingual B.A. isn't 100% (meaning sublingual is the best option, especially considering that I.N. and oral B.A. is like 10%). Also, anyone care to comment on opes and alcohol being the best combo ever? In all honesty, most opes are not recreational in and of themselves (opinion).
Sublingual... in my limited experience with sublingual - it is much much better than nasal and oral hydromorphone, and because HM is quite alike morphine in therms of BA, i dont see why sublingual morphine wouldnt be better than oral/nasal.
That being said, some opiates - such as fentanyl, have quite lower sublingual BA than buccal or transdermal.
Morphine sucks though, recreation-wise, so much that i would trade 10x30mg MS for 10x10mg hydrocodone any day.
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#14
 2008-11-27, 02:30
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helterskelter 
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Re: My morphine thread
What the fuck man^
I would never give up that much morphine for fucking hydrocodone
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#15
 2008-11-27, 02:42
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hydroponichronic 
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Re: My morphine thread
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Originally Posted by helterskelter
What the fuck man^
I would never give up that much morphine for fucking hydrocodone
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Concurrent. But only 'cause HC always has APAP in it. Even if it didn't, I've never been a bigt fan of HC for anything but pain relief. It's great for that, though.
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#16
 2008-11-27, 03:06
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Re: My morphine thread
Dude, if you post another thread before you read the forum rules, I will ban you for a month.
Don't even try saying you did. BEcause if you had, you'd know that we don't allow price threads, and you'd also know that making threads like this are not allowed either.
You want to know why a thread was closed? Email a mod. Want to post here? Have some fucking content.
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