K, so there's this chick I've recently started becoming friends with. We met at a "rolling party." Maybe it's the fact that we were all high as fuck on ecstasy that left the impression, but I've sort of developed a...crush on her. She's hot as hell, fun, cool, interesting to talk to, etc etc.

You see, I've never acted on these feelings before. I've had a boyfriend for the past 3 years who I am now in the process of leaving. While I can't honestly say I've been completely faithful to him, I've never actively sought out "relations" with others...especially not with another girl.

So basically I'm pretty clueless on how to go about this. Chances are, I don't have a shot with her. She's really into some guy, only problem is he doesn't want to commit to a relationship (aww, how sad). She also talks about guys a lot and all that wonderful stuff that I want to rolls my eyes at.

But I dunno. We're kind of flirty with each other at times (usually when fucked up)...but maybe that's just her personality? Females can be like that with other females without it necessarily being a sexual thing. Right?

Question is: how the fuck do I find out whether she's into girls? I'm not gonna be like, "HEY, DO YOU LIKE VAG?" 'cause...just no. So far all I've done it make suttle comments such as, "Man, that bitch is smokin'" or whatever, which leads to minor discussions on what we find attractive. She's definitely expressed an appreciation for females...but I'm still not sure if it's in that way, you know? Oh, and she's also a bit "wild." Like, she supposedly was hardcore into drugs for a while. Not saying that means much, but I do think that those with that particular lifestyle would be more open and explorative to certain things.

I'm more so asking for the sake of curiosity/discussion. I'm too much of a puss to pursue things of this nature, and I definitely don't want to ruin our friendship by strongly coming on to her. I mean, if we just happened to make out one day or something I definitely wouldn't have a problem with it. yeah. I feel like a dirty pervert for even typing this up.

Some women fucking disgust me. Especially ones like you. Sort your life out.

Not to sounds cliche, but you don't even know me. Or the state of my life. But I'm glad you think you have me alllll figured out basing on a few blocks of text.

Um..........ask her.

Real insightful. Thanks.


How do you suppose I go about that without being blatant?

You get fucked up and do E and you are in the "process" of leaving your boyfriend. Thats all I needed to hear. Also I don't give a shit about your excuses for a fucked up lifestyle.

You get fucked up and do E and you are in the "process" of leaving your boyfriend. Thats all I needed to hear. Also I don't give a shit about your excuses for a fucked up lifestyle.

Oh God. Just STFU and get off your moral high horse. Seriously. I may use drugs occasionally but I'm able to do so responsibility, and while maintaining a high GPA and holding a job. If you honestly think "getting fucked up" is morally reprehensible, you need to get the hell off of Totse immediately.

I say "process" because that's a whole other issue in itself. We both agree that we're not together. However, we're still living in the same apartment because finding a new place takes time and money. Because of that and because I respect him as a person, I don't think I'd want to jump into an intimate relationship with somebody until we completely part ways.

Thanks for elaborating on the "process".

And everyone says they can use their drugs responsibly. Won't be long before you get a dodgey pill or OD. And it's not healthy, it's doing you're head in you'll see if you stop doing stuff like that.

Umm. Wow.

It's called harm reduction and I do take it seriously. Testing kits, anti-oxidants, limitations as to how often I indulge...

It's not impossible to use drugs responsibly.

If you really did all that, you might aswell just not do drugs to save yourself the bother of all that BS.

....


GTFO outta my thread.

The O in GTFO means out.

Also GTFO our planet so you fucking waster.

Hey, it's Sunday. Shouldn't you be at church? I hear they have some more drivel for you to eat up. But hey, who wants to expend the energy on thinking for themselves when it's just sooo much easier to have opinions spoon fed to you?

Oh, and be careful not to speed on your way there. That's illegal!

I'm not religous. If I was, I would take pity on you.

Let's try this again.

You ask her. Just slip it into a conversation.
You: "Oh look at that girl she's hot."
Her: "yeah she is"
You: "would you ever have sex with a girl?"
Her: "yeah totally"
You: "sweet let's go fuck"

^ Hahah.

I'm not religous. If I was, I would take pity on you.

This is for you. I think you'll find that you have much in common.

http://www.vmlink.com/images/iconWrentch.jpg


If you choose not to use drugs, great, that's fantastic. In fact, I find it admirable in many ways. Just don't be a self-righteous prick about it.

^ Hahah.



This is for you. I think you'll find that you have much in common.

http://www.vmlink.com/images/iconWrentch.jpg


If you choose not to use drugs, great, that's fantastic. In fact, I find it admirable in many ways. Just don't be a self-righteous prick about it.

If you find it admirable that someone does not do drugs why do you do them?

Pix of her? Pix of you?

Ask her to come over, then you guys get very drunk.

Shit happens when you're drunk, but don't say you like her, just nom nom on her salad.

If you find it admirable that someone does not do drugs why do you do them?

Because they're fun and have facilitated some of the best experiences of my life. These experiences have profoundly and positively influenced my sober life. It's a weighed risk, and I choose to take it.

Because they're fun and have facilitated some of the best experiences of my life. These experiences have profoundly and positively influenced my sober life. It's a weighed risk, and I choose to take it.

It's gunna catch up with you one day. Then you'll realise it wasn't worth it.

After posting something like this, that's a definite no to the picture. sry.

it's actually kind of a turn off when I think about having sex with a girl. i just wanna make out/grind/touch. i suck at being a lesbo.

It's gunna catch up with you one day. Then you'll realise it wasn't worth it.

Aww shit guys, looks like we got a Nostradamus on our hands!

Aww shit guys, looks like we got a Nostradamus on our hands!

Aww shit guys, looks like we got a Amy Winehouse on our hands!

Haha. I lol'd.




I'm done with you.
Thank you for the entertainment, though. :)

Nitronick, just shut the fuck up. The girl doesn't need a fucking lesson in drug use, she wants to know how to hook up with her friend -- though, for the record, I want to say that I know many people who use E and other 'soft' stuff like mushrooms and maintain healthy and relatively 'normal' lifestyles. Don't judge all drug users based on some experience you've clearly had.

She Devil, the poster a few posts above this had it spot on, IMO -- just ask her if she would ever have sex with another girl, she'll probably say she's considered it and wouldn't mind experimenting, you say "well...", and then you get hot lesbian sex. Yay.

What if I ask and she's all, "Eww, no. Sick! Gross! Disgusting!" and takes that as me hitting on her? That would be awkward. I don't want to tarnish a perfectly good friendship.

Like I said, I'm a pussy when it comes to matters such as this.

What if I ask and she's all, "Eww, no. Sick! Gross! Disgusting!"


.....then you say LOL ZOMG I THINK SO 2!!!

Really now, this is basic stuff. If she's not down for it, make up some bullshit.

Meh, I obviously don't know this girl personally, but I know the type of people who go to rolling parties -- I really doubt she'd take much offense to it. Pass it off as a joke if she has a reaction like that.

Before you go about asking her, concrete into her mind that you are currently dating a MAN. That would take the edge off of you asking her so it wouldn't seem like," Eww this creepy lesbo is trying to get me in bed." it would be: "She likes dick but wants to experiment too, cool." See your shitty boyfriend actually does have a purpose after all.

Just make sure you don't over play it- don't drown the poor girl in your relationship wrys.
Be subtle.

I think I might just turn up the flirt/seduce notch a bit and see how she responds.

(any tips on how to go about that? lolll. C'mon totse, coach me!)



So get this. When we were rolling a couple weeks ago... she was sitting on the couch and I was sitting on the arm of the couch. And she tells me to get closer and hangs her finger in the belt loop of my jeans? Am I looking too far into this or is that kind of...?

Oh, and last night we were watching Chuck and Larry (not my choice of film), and when...something happened, don't remember what...she comments, "that would be like if I asked you to make out with me, <my name>!" Haha I just blushed and couldn't think of anything to say.

Yeah, I realize I have about as much game as a giddy middle schooler. shut up.

So she's basically one upped you. She already wants to grind the fuck out of you. Because you're stuck in this mindset that "it's awkward for you, it must be awkward for her" you won't act on what's going on right in front of you.

Get real close and do the whole "silent eye fuck" thing (if she does it back) then mack on her, throw a hand down south, and start making circles. Progress onward.

Now go out there and make some hot lesbo action. *smacks shedevil's ass*



Video plz!

Well, there are also times when she doesn't seem into me. Like, when we're sitting on the couch...sober...she always leaves some space between us. And last night I stayed over and slept in her bed with her, and she slept with her back towards me.

I've seen her around guys. The flirtiness is through the roof. But I'm also a very guarded and distant person sometimes. Maybe she sees that and responds as she deems appropriate? I could be radiating "uninterested."

Close the gap...ha. Get close to her, touch her (hand on leg, play with hair, rub her tits in circles till she softly moans) sorry that last one was for me. Just build up some tension and be playful, just don't become clingy. The eyefuck is a sure fired way to know whats up without actually having to say anything.

I dunno, "eyefucking" might be a bit extreme. I'll try upping the eye contact, though. Just not to such intensity.

I don't mean like eyeing up her whole body in the sense *DAMN*. But you like.......you know in really cheesy love movies how the two people will just stop and gaze into each others eyes? Well something along those lines.

Of course you could just drop this whole fuckin feeling secure enough to ask her bullshit. If you don't want a relationship type thing with this girl, just be straight with her:
"Ok I've been rolling an idea around in my head for a while."

"What?"

"I've always wanted to fool around with a girl but never found one I would be comfortable trying that sort of thing with."

"uh-huh"

"I'd like to...I dunno maybe try with you."

But what if she says no? :( I'm sensitive, damn it.

Honestly, I think I'll go about this gradually. I know it won't make for as epic a thread but it will be less creepy in the end.

And thanks for the advice, colorsoc. I really do appreciate it. Basically I just need to take some initiative and grab the bull by the horns.

Alright girl, do what you gotta.


All I'm saying-

Emotional Security Rt: Lots of time/even more possible hurt in the end

Snatch&Grab Rt.: Get half now with chance for things to flower later/if she doesn't want a relationship with a girl this could be your only route


Get that pussy!

be blatant..

you'll never know unless you ask.

ask for me.

plz.

next time you're at a rolling party, stick your tongue in her mouth.

or not.

Ok, here we go:

Next time you guys are getting your lols over hot bitches, be like, "Oh, shit. That girl looks just like my ex-roomate! *blah blah about roomate for a bit* Yeah, she was a total lesbo. One time, we both got super trashed, and we ended up hooking up!"

Thar ya go. If she's grossed out, then you know not to go any further, and also you were "mad trashed" so you're sexuality is safe.

If she's like, "oh, wow, really? What was it like?"


...

*Pounces*

:D

Do it while you're on ecstasy, even if she isnt gay, she'd probably be more up for it...

hmmm.

hmmm.

Oh God, why'd you have to come across this thread?


Oh well, I ain't got nothin' to hide.

So last night her, these two other kids, and I got together and put on some light shows for fun. It was a good time.

Well anyway, we're texting this afternoon and I was like, "man, we were some hot beaches with our dancing last night." She responded something to the extent of "umm yea just wait til december 6th, all the boys will be going crazy over our moves hehe" So I say, "Heck, ill probably be all over our moves! ...kidding. awkward. lalala." Been an hour, no response yet.

What do you think. Have I dug myself in a hole?

Why aren't there pics in this thread yet?!?!!?

I demand pics of both you and the female in question.




Did you really say the ....kidding. awkward. lalala part?

Why would you do that.

Now she thinks you meant it as sexual, but are just covering it up with the kidding thing.

If you just left it as is, she wouldn't think it was weird.


And don't freak out just because she doesn't text you for an hour.

It's been an hour and a half now.

If she thinks it's weird than at least I'll know to give up. Meh. We'll pretend like it never happened.

Her reply: "Lol good thing there won't be any mirrors cuz i think we would both be going crazy........that would possibly lead to awkward hehe.....hehe"

Haha wtf? She didn't know what to make of the comment or she dodged it?

Going crazy is lesbian for public strapon dildo sex.

If you care to hear my sincere opinion here it is-- You're trying too hard/reading too deeply into things. This is common whether you are attempting to attain a female or a male. When we develop crushes we either go about them in the natural, slow progressing way or we are impatient with the situation and begin rushing things which make us insecure of the situation. That in turn makes you read too deeply into things. Let things take their natural course and if things were meant to be, with a little bit of effort things will unfold.

love peace hope and all that good shit

joe

Ask her over now.

Ask her if she's interested in making a porno with you. Let her know that the lesbo sex is just to make money and there are no further implications. If she's for it then you make your move and if she passes then you know she wouldn't have sex with you if she got paid (sucks to be you?)

This thread is adorable.
Considering I'm really fucking good at picking up/hitting on girls I wish I could help. My roommate is in the same situation as you right now and I've been trying to coach her. Unfortunately it appears I'm not good at transferring the magic so I really only have one piece of advice for you: swing your nuts. Gotta at least have some confidence and act like you know what you're doing.

This is too much.

Like I mentioned, she's really into some guy... who I personally believe she's too good for. Hmpf. Bad timing?

I think I'll go with this. I hate putting myself out there. Nerve-wracking.

Straight girls are experimentation waiting to happen. They all secretly want to much carpet.
I have lesbo friends who only date straight chicks though I think it's more for the initial challenge.

I hate putting myself out there. Nerve-wracking.

Well you'll never get anywhere that way.
A couple months ago I took a fairly hot girl home after looking her straight in the face and saying, "lesbian bitches love me."
You gotta man up at least a bit or nothing will ever happen. She's not gonna make a move on herself.

Okay. Tell me some of your past experience. How have you lured people in the past?

Okay. Tell me some of your past experience. How have you lured people in the past?

Depends if you just want to fuck them or if you want something more. Which one is it for this girl?

I dunno what I want.... something. To experience.

What's in between "partner" and "fuck buddy"?

you gotta play it cool, people want what they can't have at this time you are making yourself entirely availible (less desirable/valuble) in simple terms. after you determine if she has any interest in women whatsoever you gotta roll with her again and play it cool, make a few insignificant advances and allow her to respond/chase your advances.

This too. Some mixture between cocky/confident and nice/uninterested but with a little bit of humility thrown in for spice. I don't know if that makes sense or not, it's kind of hard to explain.

Sounds like you're looking for some kind of good friend to experiment with but still keep afterwards if you guys decide you're not down.

Thanks for the advice, guys. (nefret, I wanna fingerbang you ...kidding. Awkward. Lalala.)


Joe - What would you think of me moving in with Killa Cam temporarily 'til I get my shit sorted out? It's definitely not my first choice in living situations, but for $200 a month... why not? Oh, and what's with us not properly hanging out? You take my needle virginity and I barely hear from you? Pssh, typical male. :p

But what if she says no? :( I'm sensitive, damn it.



Then come on S&A, and we'll all give you a big hug. ;)

No seriously though. If she says no, act like it's no big deal, then go and get really drunk or whatever. I always find that I feel better knowing what someone would say than wondering what they'd say if I had the confidence to find out. Ask ask ask!

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just tell her you are bi