Not when you're hanging out with some of your guy friends and they're all "Yeah, I boned a bitch last summer, it was hot. Johnny, tell us when you boned a girl", and you just sit there awkwardly because you never fucked someone before.

Not what I'm talking about in this thread.

What I'm asking is under what circumstances would you or have you lied about being a virgin when you really weren't to your sexual partner?

I can only think of a few extreme circumstances;

*You were raped and don't count it.

*You're ashamed of it and don't count it.

...but how big of a deal is it to you?

Would you ever tell a girl you're a virgin just so the first time you have sex you can finish in 2 minutes and she wont get mad?

Discuss...

If I was getting into a relationship with a girlwho was a virgin, and I knew I could get away with lying about it, knowing she'd never find out that I'd had sex with my former gf, I would. Why? Because I'm twisted and want myself and my princess to be virgins. It's too late, but I'd like to pretend.

Nah....I've accepted my promiscuity.

But I can see why people would lie about it to someone who was a virgin. I've been with virgins before and they tend to be more nervous about the whole thing because they're worried that they'll be a disappointment.

I used to sometimes when I was younger. I was uncomfortable with how many partners I had been with, most being mistakes. It made me feel more innocent/pure if I could get away with it.

My current boyfriend thought I was innocent until I openned my fuckin mouth. Turns out he's the innocent one compared to me and he constantly reminds me.

i think i have given the people the idea i wasn't a virgin without actually even saying the words....
although that would no longer be the truth, but when i was a little younger...i guess i would lie about it...to see how far it would take me.
who really knows the reasons we lie about that.

I actually am a virgin, but I could understand why girls would lie about their virginity.

I haven't lied about being a virgin but I have grossly underestimated how many partners I've had when the subject has come up.

And for what it's worth, I don't think there's ever a good reason to ask someone how many partners they've had.

You really DONT want to go there - pretty much ever.

Hey, I'm a dude, pretty social (now), outgoing etc and I've only been with 3 girls. What kills me about girls anymore is that they feel like they have to fuck everyone that spits even the smallest bit of game. But whatever, if you want to fuck every Tom, Dick and Harry that says hello, then that's your own thing, I just personally go for classy girls. And dudes can usually tell, or get an idea either big or small by how quick you're willing to fuck. You can at least tell how classy a girl is, and dudes might not come out and say that you're a classless whore, but he'll probably know.

I don't think having casual sex makes you a classless whore. Or maybe I am a classless whore.

You know there are friends with benefits and the random one night stands. So what? Men do this and it's no proble, good job man, high five. Women do this and are classless whores?

I think what makes a woman a slut is having sex for the wrong reasons on a regular basis:

1. money
2. attention
3. self validation
4. ATTENTION
5. fake love or some pretense of love
6. did i mention attention?

Right reasons?

1. you're horny and the situation is right for it
2. you're in love.
3. can't think of any others!

but hey that's just the opinion of a classless whore :p what do i know?

Nah....I've accepted my promiscuity.


Yeah this.


And to answer the main question I've never lied and said I was a virgin. I've lied about how many people I'd been with in the past but never said I was a virgin.

question. and when the time comes when you decide that you want to throw yourself out there cause your horny, and you decide to have sex with whatever girl walks your way will your attitude toward class play a role in your decision? or does class not apply to the situation? and if it doesn't what would label would you or any guy have?

[p.s. not being sarcastic and rude..just asking your opinion. just wondering what you think...seeming i was interested in what you had to say.]

I don't think having casual sex makes you a classless whore. Or maybe I am a classless whore.

Yeah, you are a classless whore in the opinion of guys. Personally I don't have casual sex with girls, not all guys do that. But guys who do that, also consider you a classless whore. Girl who has lots of casual sex is a males definition of the word whore. Why do girls insist on changing this definition? If you think that what you do is cool, then say hey I'm cool with being what you call a classless skank.

Men do this and it's no proble, good job man, high five. Women do this and are classless whores?


I don't. And I'm in very good shape(in better shape than ANYONE else I know), (during the summers I work on a farm 12-16 hours a day, EVERY day), I'm very smart. I could get LOTS and LOTS of women if I REALLY wanted it. I've had girls fall in love with me so deeply, and I began sharing the same feelings and completely stopped talking to them because I refused to have any sexual relationship because they were sluts (promiscious to say the least). I donno, I'm just a completely different breed of person; I don't habitually seek pleasure all the time, instead I work and do things beneficial to my life, health and mind. Girls anymore, from what I see all just want to party and fuck, for real. They have no desire to be good at anything for the most part, and that makes me sick. If you have promiscious sex every now and then, a drunken fuck I have no problems with it. It's the girls that surround themselves with relationships/hookups and other things, and just work to make the minimum for themselves so that they can go have fun that I would consider a classless whore. A woman that is good at something, knows where she's going but hey gets horny every now and then and has a drunken fuck, that's a classy woman. It's circumstances that go beyond promisciouity that defines a woman as a classless slut in my book. I have extremely high standards though, that's probably why I've only been with 3 woman. I've had very very beautiful women make the moves on ME (I.E. sitting drunk on my bed saying I want you inside of me, crying saying 'I just want to be your girlfriend' etc etc), and I've turned them down. I'm not trying to sound like a bragging cocky bastard, I'm far from it I simply work very very hard at what I do, work very very hard on my body and my life in general, and I'm very proud of it.

question. and when the time comes when you decide that you want to throw yourself out there cause your horny, and you decide to have sex with whatever girl walks your way will your attitude toward class play a role in your decision? or does class not apply to the situation? and if it doesn't what would label would you or any guy have?

[p.s. not being sarcastic and rude..just asking your opinion. just wondering what you think...seeming i was interested in what you had to say.]

I didn't understand your question. Did the above answer it? :p.

After I finished having sex with my first, she said "You friend said you were a virgin virgin." I replied, "She didn't know that I'd had sex."

I didn't want her to spaz on me or try to be all "zomg special!", basically.

'I donno, I'm just a completely different breed of person; I don't habitually seek pleasure all the time, instead I work and do things beneficial to my life, health and mind. Girls anymore, from what I see all just want to party and fuck, for real. They have no desire to be good at anything for the most part, and that makes me sick. If you have promiscious sex every now and then, a drunken fuck I have no problems with it. It's the girls that surround themselves with relationships/hookups and other things, and just work to make the minimum for themselves so that they can go have fun that I would consider a classless whore. A woman that is good at something, knows where she's going but hey gets horny every now and then and has a drunken fuck, that's a classy woman. It's circumstances that go beyond promisciouity that defines a woman as a classless slut in my book. I have extremely high standards though, that's probably why I've only been with 3 woman. I've had very very beautiful women make the moves on ME (I.E. sitting drunk on my bed saying I want you inside of me, crying saying 'I just want to be your girlfriend' etc etc), and I've turned them down. I'm not trying to sound like a bragging cocky bastard, I'm far from it I simply work very very hard at what I do, work very very hard on my body and my life in general, and I'm very proud of it."




I didn't understand your question. Did the above answer it? :p.

aye. i understand. well what label do you put upon a guy who sleeps around a lot. not necessarily yourself.
and i do agree with your opinions of a girls promiscuity...
but if you have had a lot of partners and you happen to be a girl doesn't always mean you are a whore...
what if the woman was in love with everyone of those partners...meaning she had sex with them for reasons she thought were right and comfortable...reasons that she thought would definitely not place her under the classification of being a whore.
i mean no one likes the classification 'whore' who would want that...?

aye. i understand. well what label do you put upon a guy who sleeps around a lot. not necessarily yourself.
and i do agree with your opinions of a girls promiscuity...
but if you have had a lot of partners and you happen to be a girl doesn't always mean you are a whore...
what if the woman was in love with everyone of those partners...meaning she had sex with them for reasons she thought were right and comfortable...reasons that she thought would definitely not place her under the classification of being a whore.
i mean no one likes the classification 'whore' who would want that...?

No one cares what women think?

/misogyny

No one cares what women think?

/misogyny

haha...lol funneh.
except when you ask them to have sex with you..
then you really care about what they are thinking...huh..?

aye. i understand. well what label do you put upon a guy who sleeps around a lot. not necessarily yourself.
and i do agree with your opinions of a girls promiscuity...
but if you have had a lot of partners and you happen to be a girl doesn't always mean you are a whore...
what if the woman was in love with everyone of those partners...meaning she had sex with them for reasons she thought were right and comfortable...reasons that she thought would definitely not place her under the classification of being a whore.
i mean no one likes the classification 'whore' who would want that...?


My opinions of girls reflect my exact same opinion of guys too. I've got good friends who, the only thing they've got to brag about is that they've been with almost 100 girls or whatever. You know what I consider that? Trash. Garbage. The people that do nothing with their lives besides hook up and have fun. They're wastes of human life; although thank god for these people, if it weren't for so many people wanting to stay in a comfort zone and not sacrifice, I'd be much less successful.


As for a girl that 'falls in love with all the many many men she's fucked', then she's just kinda stupid probably. That kinda cheapens love if you fall in love with 20,30,40+ dudes. I don't even see how that's possible; either way that girl probably has emotional problems, I'd still consider her classless. I've got a twin sister, I know girls better than 90% of dudes probably. I was raised by women (a house with 3 girls including a twin sister), I know how they think and what they do very very well. But one thing that I can honestly say is that I feel the exact same way about guys as I do girls. People should really try in life; most just don't. It helps me ultimately anyways, so I'm not bitching, and I've taken some serious shit from even my closest business partners for the way I view these people, I just have a work ethic and just strive to be the best I can be unlike ANYONE else I know. I've been cussed out by business partners for working so hard (days and days without food or sleep, just work), so meh. I know very few people are like me, and the people that are (have similar work ethics) become presidents, very wealthy business owners etc. It's not for everyone, some people are just very happy to settle for less. As long as you're happy though, nobody elses opinion should matter.

I've slept with one person, and we were together 4 months before we had sex, and we are together to this day, coming up on two years.


I've never lied about being a virgin. Ever. And I wouldn't, even if me and boy broke up.

Who cares what other people think?

Lots of people, me for one :)

I've never lied about it, or about how many partners I've had. Except to my mom, but that doesn't really count.

As for a girl that 'falls in love with all the many many men she's fucked', then she's just kinda stupid probably. That kinda cheapens love if you fall in love with 20,30,40+ dudes. I don't even see how that's possible; either way that girl probably has emotional problems, I'd still consider her classless. I've got a twin sister, I know girls better than 90% of dudes probably. I was raised by women (a house with 3 girls including a twin sister), I know how they think and what they do very very well. But one thing that I can honestly say is that I feel the exact same way about guys as I do girls. People should really try in life; most just don't. It helps me ultimately anyways, so I'm not bitching, and I've taken some serious shit from even my closest business partners for the way I view these people, I just have a work ethic and just strive to be the best I can be unlike ANYONE else I know. I've been cussed out by business partners for working so hard (days and days without food or sleep, just work), so meh. I know very few people are like me, and the people that are (have similar work ethics) become presidents, very wealthy business owners etc. It's not for everyone, some people are just very happy to settle for less. As long as you're happy though, nobody elses opinion should matter.

for one who has a very smart approach at this whole situation you sure do talk yourself up a lot. going on about how your ethics and beliefs are far better than those who believe that sex is a natural thing, and if those said people tend to use it to their advantage then so be it. im not saying that i personally don't think that it is a little overboard...[because honestly i do] but who am i to sit here and judge them because they made different decisions then myself. which is exactly what you are doing. you may have a good idea of how a woman works....but don't judge them just because you, and only you, think you have better ethics and morals.
mew.

for one who has a very smart approach at this whole situation you sure do talk yourself up a lot. going on about how your ethics and beliefs are far better than those who believe that sex is a natural thing, and if those said people tend to use it to their advantage then so be it. im not saying that i personally don't think that it is a little overboard...[because honestly i do] but who am i to sit here and judge them because they made different decisions then myself. which is exactly what you are doing. you may have a good idea of how a woman works....but don't judge them just because you, and only you, think you have better ethics and morals.
mew.


If people didn't judge, then I would look at everyone at big piles of carbon, cells and calcium. Everyone judges EVERYONE, for better or worst. I'm just a different kind of person; and I judge everyone by using myself as focal point. Everyone does this whether they want to actually say it or not. Do I think one would be a worst person because of the decisions he or she makes? Absolutely not, nor do I think I'm better than anyone. In fact, I believe everyone is born with the exact same skillset and brains I do; lots just don't use it. They want to stay where their comfortable. There's no problem with that, I've simply got extremely lucky in my life mentors (my best friend and business partner, which is 65, black and grew up in New York...anything in life to be experienced, he has and has taught me how to live the best I can starting at a young age). But as I said, I don't do ANYTHING you people don't; judge people based on yourself. But instead of having fun and hooking up whenever I can, I turn these opportunities down to open up new opportunities in life.

If you work very hard in life, make HUGE sacrifices and strive to be the best person you can be, you'd be very proud to and you certainly wouldn't talk yourself down. Self promotion isn't bad at all, I donno why you would think such a thing. Especially if you've worked on something to promote. I'm just kinda talking and getting this all in text, I like to see how I think in text. It's just the internet after all, I'm not trying to impress anyone.

Just to my mom but to a partner, no. I haven't had to lie about how many partners I've had either as it's kind of low.

If people didn't judge, then I would look at everyone at big piles of carbon, cells and calcium. Everyone judges EVERYONE, for better or worst.
True, but it is the way you go about judging someone that truly defines what kind of person you are. You may have your priorities straight, and you may have ethics and morals but you are essentially separating yourself from those who you view as weaker. Those you view are less indulged with what you think is truly important.


I'm just a different kind of person; and I judge everyone by using myself as focal point. Everyone does this whether they want to actually say it or not.[

I think you definitely have a point. But if your ethics and morals aren't telling you that using yourself as a focal point to view everyone else is wrong....then that is where the problem with your whole theory is. People are individuals, and although we all sit here and judge each other the only person who should be judging us is ourselves. People make their decisions based on what they have seen to be okay. [Like how they were raised, not all are as privileged as yourself]



If you work very hard in life, make HUGE sacrifices and strive to be the best person you can be, you'd be very proud to and you certainly wouldn't talk yourself down. Self promotion isn't bad at all, I donno why you would think such a thing. Especially if you've worked on something to promote. I'm just kinda talking and getting this all in text, I like to see how I think in text. It's just the internet after all, I'm not trying to impress anyone.

i know i am just conversing my opinion with yours

[Like how they were raised, not all are as privileged as yourself]



I'm gonna close this little chat, but: 2.5 years ago I was working construction making minimum wage, and as a child grew up by going with my mom to the welfare station. I am so fucking far from having grown up and raised in anything considered privileged that it's not even funny. All my family were very promiscuous too. I was the bastard child of a business man (my mom decided to fuck a married man and had us), I didn't indulge in any of my dad's wealth at all. I remember going to his business after he told us he'd give us tiny amounts of cash only to dangle it in my mom's face and laugh as I watched her beg for the money. My mother pinned rags to our asses (me and my twin) because she couldn't afford diapers, so don't make wild assumptions.

I'm gonna close this little chat, but: 2.5 years ago I was working construction making minimum wage, and as a child grew up by going with my mom to the welfare station. I am so fucking far from having grown up and raised in anything considered privileged that it's not even funny. All my family were very promiscuous too. I was the bastard child of a business man (my mom decided to fuck a married man and had us), I didn't indulge in any of my dad's wealth at all. I remember going to his business after he told us he'd give us tiny amounts of cash only to dangle it in my mom's face and laugh as I watched her beg for the money. My mother pinned rags to our asses (me and my twin) because she couldn't afford diapers, so don't make wild assumptions.

didn't mean to offend. i should have explained it better...
i meant privileged in the ways of how you view certain actions. because they are valid and deserve consideration. and truly, for me, have made me view something differently. youre privileged in how you see things. i would never make the comment of your life privileges, cause i have no idea who you are..and that is not my place

haha...lol funneh.
except when you ask them to have sex with you..
then you really care about what they are thinking...huh..?

I was joking.

Also, what a girl is thinking doesn't matter because it's some jumbled up, illogical emotional mess. The only thing that matters in the situation you mentioned is whether or not she'll fuck. What she's thinking is irrelevant.

I just sweated while eating some chocolate.

never lied bout it

Back when i was a virgin i was damn proud of it

Now im not, anybody who knows me for more then 10 minutes gonna know it's a lie anyways, so why pretend

Ohw and reading back, not even to my parents and not even ever about my amount of partners (the question though, have you slept with those people while you we're with me... is .. one i try to avoid)

i lost my virginity fairly young (13) and in the best way possible (threesome). so i tell anyone and everyone who asks. i might be one of the only people who can say that they honestly not only had a threesome. but lost there virginity in one.

lied up until the night I first had sex. No one noticed and no one's the wiser.

no, im not so insecure and dont need the approval of my friends about it

How old are you now?

Also, you are god.

How old are you now?

Also, you are god.
18, and sadly i could never top that one experience. maybe some day.

I'm gonna close this little chat, but: 2.5 years ago I was working construction making minimum wage, and as a child grew up by going with my mom to the welfare station. I am so fucking far from having grown up and raised in anything considered privileged that it's not even funny. All my family were very promiscuous too. I was the bastard child of a business man (my mom decided to fuck a married man and had us), I didn't indulge in any of my dad's wealth at all. I remember going to his business after he told us he'd give us tiny amounts of cash only to dangle it in my mom's face and laugh as I watched her beg for the money. My mother pinned rags to our asses (me and my twin) because she couldn't afford diapers, so don't make wild assumptions.

I'm a twin too!

We're Identical though.

Is your sister hot?

18, and sadly i could never top that one experience. maybe some day.

Soo.. How long did you last?

In seconds.

soo.. How long did you last?

In seconds.

15.4............:d

18, and sadly i could never top that one experience. maybe some day.
Tell me it was two females...

Soo.. How long did you last?

In seconds.
actually i never busted. and they both looked pretty good. one much better than the other tho.

Women:

1. money
2. attention
3. self validation
4. ATTENTION
5. fake love or some pretense of love
6. did i mention attention?

Men

1. you're horny and the situation is right for it



that's why men are studs and women are sluts

lol yes i have. at parties to stupid drunk girls. it's either "i've only fucked once and it was the love of my life, she broke my heart yada yada yada" then you're getting laid or it's "no i am a virgin, i am waiting for the right girl" a few more drinks later "you look like the right girl".. both result in positive ways IME