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| Sex and Affection Anything and everything about sex and relations. Please try to keep this forum on-topic, since things tend to wander a bit. Search through old topics before posting a new one, as questions get repeated a lot here. |
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#1
 2008-11-20, 00:54
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Tinted Glass 
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To give up your life, yay or nay?
I was watching a program about a young girl from some foreign country, and some of our troops were over there for some reason or another, and this young girl met a young marine, and love blossoms, etc etc.
Now, this was a true story, and she hid the fact that she was a princess from him so that he wouldnt see her differently, eventually the truth comes out, and her family will not except her chosen love, and she escapes with him to america.
Long story short, through a ton of court battles and such, they end up married. She was only 17 when she left her family, and the female in me was swooning over this love they had found.
Then, the end of the program, some text comes on the set saying that they divorced 5 years later.
What is it about love that leads us to be stupid and give up everything we have? Leave our families, our homelands/hometowns, just give up our entire lives for that one person?
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#2
 2008-11-20, 00:55
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
ITS THE SUPEREGO.
love is imagined.
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#3
 2008-11-20, 00:59
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Stupidity. It's people letting themselves become lovedrunk and forgetting about the reality of life. That on top of ignoring the things you may hate about the person at the time and brushing them off as if they don't matter because after 5, 10, 25, 50 years of marriage those things can only become more and more unbearable over time.
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#4
 2008-11-20, 01:13
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Honestly, what is the fucking point of getting married besides getting money and sex + whatever else(And don't tell me love, the only reason you believe it exists is because mental barriers in your mind tell you that it does.)
I WISH those fairy tales were real.
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#5
 2008-11-20, 01:15
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Tinted Glass 
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
I do beleive in marriage, just not giving up everything you have to be married.
In a few years, I'd like to be married, have a couple of kids, work in my field, and call it a day.
I think marriage is a partnership, neither party should be getting more than the other, and I'd gladly sign a prenup.
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#6
 2008-11-20, 02:01
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Teenage attention whore.
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
I'll marry you. 
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#7
 2008-11-20, 02:04
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
I would never marry someone I hadn't been dating for at least 6 years let alone that fact that I will never get married.
She was a fucking retard.
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#8
 2008-11-20, 02:04
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
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Originally Posted by Tinted Glass
I was watching a program about a young girl from some foreign country, and some of our troops were over there for some reason or another, and this young girl met a young marine, and love blossoms, etc etc.
Now, this was a true story, and she hid the fact that she was a princess from him so that he wouldnt see her differently, eventually the truth comes out, and her family will not except her chosen love, and she escapes with him to america.
Long story short, through a ton of court battles and such, they end up married. She was only 17 when she left her family, and the female in me was swooning over this love they had found.
Then, the end of the program, some text comes on the set saying that they divorced 5 years later.
What is it about love that leads us to be stupid and give up everything we have? Leave our families, our homelands/hometowns, just give up our entire lives for that one person?
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Wow that's messed up LOL
I dunno, I don't see the point in looking at marriage as some lifelong goal. Getting married does not mean you saved the princess, why give up your whole world for it?
Love makes people stupid, tis true :(
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#9
 2008-11-20, 03:07
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Malkog 
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Yeah I'm not sure. I don't intend to get married but I'd like a lifelong partner/s. I don't know why people do such dumbass things, maybe because those people are retarded in the first place.
Yeah I'd say that's it.
I think the high divorce rates tell us something about the tradition of marriage: that it really isn't working for most people.
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#10
 2008-11-20, 04:02
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
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Originally Posted by I_like_pie
Honestly, what is the fucking point of getting married besides getting money and sex + whatever else(And don't tell me love, the only reason you believe it exists is because mental barriers in your mind tell you that it does.)
I WISH those fairy tales were real.
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You can get money and sex outside of marriage.
It's about stability, or at least it used to be, and it's about your social standing. There is a very powerful difference in how people perceive someone who cheats on his live-in girlfriend versus someone who cheats on his wife-- even if the former has children.
People who think marriage is about love have got it all fucked up. Marriage is a political and legal institution that establishes a new family and cements an alliance between two established families. Love in a marriage is what develops between two people who spend their lives together toward a common purpose.
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#11
 2008-11-20, 04:08
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
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Originally Posted by Nefret
I would never marry someone I hadn't been dating for at least 6 years let alone that fact that I will never get married.
She was a fucking retard.
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My kinda girl.
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#12
 2008-11-20, 04:15
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
nudes or gtfo
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#13
 2008-11-20, 04:24
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
My kinda girl.
Finally, people start remembering that I'm female. :)
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#14
 2008-11-20, 04:38
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Finally, people start remembering that I'm female. :)
I've been reading totse since '02. Hopefully I'd remember something so ridiculously important as who is female and who is not.
Plus, I saw your pics. You posted the pirate one recently, if I remember right.
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#15
 2008-11-20, 04:50
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
(And don't tell me love, the only reason you believe it exists is because mental barriers in your mind tell you that it does.)
yeah that sounds really scientific there. i'm assuming you're an evolutionary biologist who knows exactly how a human mind words?
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#16
 2008-11-20, 05:03
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
What is it about love that leads us to be stupid and give up everything we have? Leave our families, our homelands/hometowns, just give up our entire lives for that one person?
It's not for that person, it's for the thrill and the adventure. I'd give it all up anyway, the woman would just be a bonus.
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#17
 2008-11-20, 05:06
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killface 
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
also love is greedy as fuck. it's the epitome of greed to be in a monogamous relationship.
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#18
 2008-11-20, 06:52
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
it's pretty simple actually. Love doesn't conquer all. Reality conquers all. The end
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#19
 2008-11-20, 07:27
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Wow that's messed up LOL
I dunno, I don't see the point in looking at marriage as some lifelong goal. Getting married does not mean you saved the princess, why give up your whole world for it?:(
if you look at it as a goal, you will just end up disappointed or with the wrong person unless ur rly lucky. u will be so obsessed with gettin married u wont realise hu ur gettin married to until its too late.
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#20
 2008-11-20, 07:29
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
I've been reading totse since '02. Hopefully I'd remember something so ridiculously important as who is female and who is not.
Plus, I saw your pics. You posted the pirate one recently, if I remember right.
Haha you can tell which one I am in the picture? Now I'm curious, I didn't think anyone would realize it was a picture of me.
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#21
 2008-11-20, 15:19
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
yeah that sounds really scientific there. i'm assuming you're an evolutionary biologist who knows exactly how a human mind words?
Yeah give me a few seconds to pull out some DSM charts so I can sound official..
I know this just because I am male, and any guy who says otherwise knows it but won't admit he knows it. Either because of stupidity, guilt, or reasons that I haven't explored yet.
Exactly how the MIND works.
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#22
 2008-11-20, 15:20
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
I could see myself running off with someone
We only get to experience existence once( as far as I know)
And being in love is one of the most blissful experiences I have encountered.
It might be worth it
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#23
 2008-11-20, 15:52
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
The only way to give up your life is to die. If you're scared of change, you're only going to fall behind and stagnate.
Who wants to live with their family forever? Why stick to your hometown/homeland? There's a lot out there to experience.
Marriage is a commitment and people should take some time before they jump into that level of commitment.
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#24
 2008-11-20, 17:09
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
^ the two above posts kinda sum up my view of things.
I thought this post would be about jumping in front of a bullet for someone. I would do that if I really loved them.
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#25
 2008-11-20, 18:16
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Haha you can tell which one I am in the picture? Now I'm curious, I didn't think anyone would realize it was a picture of me.
Yeah you're in the middle with the dark hair. It looked like everyone was having fun in the picture, too.
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#26
 2008-11-20, 19:20
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
I feel bad for you I_like_pie, you must have a very sad and lonely existance.
I'm not going to pound into your head that love is real, it is an emotion, nothing more than a feeling.
But, you cannot deny that sometimes you feel happy, sad, ecstatic, miserable.
Yeah, love is merely a human emotion, but it is existant.
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#27
 2008-11-20, 22:18
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Yeah give me a few seconds to pull out some DSM charts so I can sound official..
I know this just because I am male, and any guy who says otherwise knows it but won't admit he knows it. Either because of stupidity, guilt, or reasons that I haven't explored yet.
Exactly how the MIND works.
i like how you put the "reasons that i haven't explored yet" at the end. that's my favourite bit.
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#28
 2008-11-20, 22:56
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
But, you cannot deny that sometimes you feel happy, sad, ecstatic, miserable.
Yes I can, and I don't know why.
^^^ Explored was a bad word, let me say experienced and observed.
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#29
 2008-11-21, 03:35
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Tinted Glass 
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Yes I can, and I don't know why.
^^^ Explored was a bad word, let me say experienced and observed.
Alright, then I'll be meaner, just because you have some odd personality numbing disorder, not all people do.
Other people can feel love, and it sucks for you that you cant.
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#30
 2008-11-21, 03:39
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Yes I can, and I don't know why.
^^^ Explored was a bad word, let me say experienced and observed.
so i'm no longer be an arse about this, you're saying you're incapable of feeling feelings?
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#31
 2008-11-21, 05:54
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
how the fuck?
how the fuck do you equate moving to another country with giving up everything you have?
what is the big deal in living away from your family?
her family is still fucking there, she can go visit, she can come back altogether if she wants
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#32
 2008-11-21, 06:29
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
i would be willing to "give up my life" to something virtuous only
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#33
 2008-11-21, 20:00
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
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Originally Posted by omnomnom
how the fuck?
how the fuck do you equate moving to another country with giving up everything you have?
what is the big deal in living away from your family?
her family is still fucking there, she can go visit, she can come back altogether if she wants
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You are a dumb fucking shit. You realize that?
She was a princess of another country, they fuckin disowned her, she is not welcome back, she has shamed her entire family and therefore shamed herself.
I guess it was a little much to expect a dumbfuck to know anything about foreign culture.
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#34
 2008-11-21, 20:19
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Love isn't real...maybe mother-daughter love is real, lust may be real, but there is no such thing as love. We just didn't evolve that way.
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#35
 2008-11-21, 20:31
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
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Originally Posted by xiamhighx
Love isn't real...maybe mother-daughter love is real, lust may be real, but there is no such thing as love. We just didn't evolve that way.
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love IS real. FUCK YOU. I'm not listening LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA...
But surely you have a better argument as to why love isn't real?
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#36
 2008-11-21, 22:52
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
love IS real. FUCK YOU. I'm not listening LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA...
But surely you have a better argument as to why love isn't real?
Yeah I'm fucking sick of people saying "love isn't real lol" and leaving it at that. Give a fucking reason or gtfo. And no "I don't believe in it" does not count.
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#37
 2008-11-22, 01:55
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
so i'm no longer be an arse about this, you're saying you're incapable of feeling feelings?
Yes.
I'm no longer me, but an observer of me, life, and mental processes.
I don't get offended
embaressed
angry
happy
sad
confused
empathetic
Until I'm on a stage in front of people for 30 minutes, then I return to the emotionless, totally closed to every human being looking for a connection, mental bastion that is me.
Nothing I say comes from me, it comes from random voids (for lack of a better word) in my brain that I'm not supposed to even be aware of.
I have no control in any aspect of a conversation, because I already know what the answer and filler are going to be and it PISSES ME THE FUCK OFF UNDERNEATH WHATEVER THE FUCK IS GOING ON!!!!
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#38
 2008-11-22, 02:02
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
I don't get angry
I have no control in any aspect of a conversation, because I already know what the answer and filler are going to be and it PISSES ME THE FUCK OFF UNDERNEATH WHATEVER THE FUCK IS GOING ON!!!!
Yeah okay buddy.
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#39
 2008-11-22, 02:05
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Yeah okay buddy.
Does that mean I FELT it?
No.
It has it's advantages (In person, I'll never find a reason to complain)
and it's consequences (never feeling emotions during conversing, feeling spaced out 24/7, always an invisible barrier between me and everyone)
And now I'm off for another 30 minutes of being myself.
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#40
 2008-11-22, 02:38
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Does that mean I FELT it?
No.
Uh, how? If something pisses you off, then you feel pissed off. How else do you explain the state of being pissed off?
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#41
 2008-11-22, 03:12
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Yeah you're in the middle with the dark hair. It looked like everyone was having fun in the picture, too.
Wow astute. Yeah we threw a pretty big party at my house a couple years ago. Damn fun night, though living with that many girls will wear on you after a certain amount of time.
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#42
 2008-11-22, 05:41
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Uh, how? If something pisses you off, then you feel pissed off. How else do you explain the state of being pissed off?
You explain it by explaining the sensations, thoughts and reactions that come with the emotion.
I have none of those for anything.
You don't have whatever I have, so It's pretty clear that you have never been in the state of mind that i'm in nearly every day. You wouldn't understand. (And this is a good thing I promise you)
NO, I am not a moron that says he has a mental disorder because it's trendy/mysterious/etc.
NO, I don't want your goddamn attention I want A CURE FOR WHATEVER THIS IS!!!!
My perception is not the same anymore. I don't know what event caused it, but there IS something going wrong.
P.S. No the context of this is not one of anger/emo/desperation
It's plain flatline neutral/careless.
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#43
 2008-11-22, 06:12
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
You explain it by explaining the sensations, thoughts and reactions that come with the emotion.
I have none of those for anything.
You don't have whatever I have, so It's pretty clear that you have never been in the state of mind that i'm in nearly every day. You wouldn't understand. (And this is a good thing I promise you)
NO, I am not a moron that says he has a mental disorder because it's trendy/mysterious/etc.
NO, I don't want your goddamn attention I want A CURE FOR WHATEVER THIS IS!!!!
My perception is not the same anymore. I don't know what event caused it, but there IS something going wrong.
P.S. No the context of this is not one of anger/emo/desperation
It's plain flatline neutral/careless.
Fair enough. It just sounded like you were trying to be all badass about it. Maybe see someone about that shit.
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#44
 2008-11-22, 19:48
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Wow astute. Yeah we threw a pretty big party at my house a couple years ago. Damn fun night, though living with that many girls will wear on you after a certain amount of time.
I'm just good with faces. I remembered a previous picture you'd posted, so it wasn't that hard to spot you. I can imagine living with that many girls would suck after a while. Lots of drama and whatnot. This year I started living alone, and it's far better.
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#45
 2008-11-22, 22:05
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Re: To give up your life, yay or nay?
Well Goku, Krillin and even Vegeta got married and it seemed to be alright for them. So I'd go for it.
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