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 #1 
Old 2008-11-19, 15:37
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Default Finding an A1 AR

Anyone know if they still make the full size A1's? I saw for sale in gun shop a couple months ago. I couldn't get it at the time but I wish I could have. I know Olympic Arms makes a carbine model, but not the full size.
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Old 2008-11-19, 16:17
2021theax 2021theax is offline
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i want a m1a1aberms:):):):):)
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Old 2008-11-19, 16:20
The Swede The Swede is offline
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shut up, troll.
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Old 2008-11-19, 16:41
jodevilgod1 jodevilgod1 is offline
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What do you mean a1? Like carry handle and two piece plastic handguard? If so yea, DPMS, Bushmaster and probobbly most AR manufacturers still make them.
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Old 2008-11-19, 16:48
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What do you mean a1? Like carry handle and two piece plastic handguard? If so yea, DPMS, Bushmaster and probobbly most AR manufacturers still make them.


Yeah the one without the windage nob, could be wrong about what its missing on the sights. The smooth triangular grips. Like what they used in Vietnam.
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Old 2008-11-19, 18:02
Exothermia Exothermia is offline
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Good question. I'm not sure who is making a correct complete A1 AR-15 any more. However there are a few manufacturers out there making parts like A1 lowers and uppers and I know a lot of people are putting them together.

I know Nodakspud makes a couple different excellent early retro style lowers, and there are various Colt SP1 uppers floating around out there. You could put one together pretty easily I think.
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Old 2008-11-19, 18:29
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Default Re: Finding an A1 AR

I'm looking for the classic with the pencil barrel and everything else that made it unique among the newer models. Actually I think even the stock is slightly different too. I remember reading a while back ago, that the only reason the barrel was made thicker is because Soldiers were using them as pry bars to open 55 gallon drum barrels and it was bending the barrels. Whether that is true or not I'm not sure.
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Old 2008-11-19, 19:55
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Default Re: Finding an A1 AR

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I'm looking for the classic with the pencil barrel and everything else that made it unique among the newer models. Actually I think even the stock is slightly different too. I remember reading a while back ago, that the only reason the barrel was made thicker is because Soldiers were using them as pry bars to open 55 gallon drum barrels and it was bending the barrels. Whether that is true or not I'm not sure.


^^ I could find that believable, but more likely it was to prevent overheating during sustained auto fire.
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Old 2008-11-19, 20:03
Cloaked Dagger Cloaked Dagger is offline
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Default Re: Finding an A1 AR

I remember reading a while back ago, that the only reason the barrel was made thicker is because Soldiers were using them as pry bars to open 55 gallon drum barrels and it was bending the barrels. Whether that is true or not I'm not sure.

That's what you get when you use conscripts.
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Old 2008-11-19, 21:21
jodevilgod1 jodevilgod1 is offline
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Sadly that is probobly true, but the heavier one is more accurate and dosent overheat as easy.

That is a good question! I havent seen one in that configuration in some time, you may have to look for a pre ban one and expect to pay for it! They arent popular these days, there has been a lot of improvements made since then.

I guess it would be cool as a collector gun, but for anything else Id jump into the new tacticool stuff.
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Old 2008-11-19, 23:12
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Baghdad, Iraq
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I guess I'll have to build one. I'm not too worried about barrel heat since I don't have full-auto and I'm not going to be going through 7 magazines in 5 minutes. I really don't have a need for all that tactical gear on a rifle outside the Army cause am I really going to be needing a PEQ-4 and a scope with nightvision for home defense.
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Old 2008-11-20, 01:35
jodevilgod1 jodevilgod1 is offline
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Well I prefer the PEQ-2 anyway. ;)

You dont need all that, but things like a nice trigger and free floated heavy barrel sure do help.
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Old 2008-11-20, 05:39
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Baghdad, Iraq
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Well a rifle is only as good as the person the shoots it. I see all these people with all this high speed shit on their AR's and most of them don't have the laser, iron sights, or optics zeroes in, nor do they know how to.

Back to topic, anyone know where I can find the smooth triangular handguards for an AR along with the lower reciever and the pencil barrel? I guess I'm stuck building one. DPMS doesn't have the parts and neither does Bushmaster unless I'm missing it some how. The upper reciever is the only thing I can find easily.
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Old 2008-11-21, 11:12
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Well a rifle is only as good as the person the shoots it. I see all these people with all this high speed shit on their AR's and most of them don't have the laser, iron sights, or optics zeroes in, nor do they know how to.

Back to topic, anyone know where I can find the smooth triangular handguards for an AR along with the lower reciever and the pencil barrel? I guess I'm stuck building one. DPMS doesn't have the parts and neither does Bushmaster unless I'm missing it some how. The upper reciever is the only thing I can find easily.


They still make light weight barrels. You just have to install a light weight barrel.
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Old 2008-11-21, 16:20
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Baghdad, Iraq
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Yeah the barrel is not a problem, I'm justing wanting the butt stock, handguards, and pistol grip to make it look authentic.
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Old 2008-11-22, 02:54
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Yeah the barrel is not a problem, I'm justing wanting the butt stock, handguards, and pistol grip to make it look authentic.


i am sure there is atleast one company out there that makes reproduction hand guards and stocks. The grip real wont matter. You could also modify the newer receivers to give them a retro look, it has been done on ar15.com
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Old 2008-11-22, 03:37
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Baghdad, Iraq
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Actually the grip does matter if I need it to look authentic, slightly different than the original but shouldn't be hard to get. I'm starting to the A1 more often on gunbroker.com so I guess by the time I get back from this deployment I should be able to by them.
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Old 2008-11-22, 07:07
Freelance Tax Collector Freelance Tax Collector is offline
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Default Re: Finding an A1 AR

I'll bet you could find almost everything you need at Sarco. Seems like they always have that stuff kickin around.

PEQ15 FTW.
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Old 2008-11-22, 14:59
LavaRed LavaRed is offline
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Yeah the barrel is not a problem, I'm justing wanting the butt stock, handguards, and pistol grip to make it look authentic.


I once bought a replacement set of all three for my M16A1 through Gunbroker. Ran me about $15 plus shipping, it was supposed to be National Guard surplus or something as it still has some yellow numbers stenciled on the buttstock.
 
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