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Old 2008-11-18, 22:59
mr. benfield mr. benfield is offline
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Default DMT, ayahuasca, how to acquire

so i was just wondering if anyone here knew if any one the plants involved in ayahuasca are legal in the US or possible to attain. im really interested in making some and trying it out.

How plausible would it be to acquire actual DMT in crystal or powder form? ive heard of it being near me but, you know the deal, friend of a friend of a friend. nothing definite.

thoughts/advice
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Old 2008-11-18, 23:24
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Default Re: DMT, ayahuasca, how to acquire

your lawn could contain DMT and 5-MeO-DMT.... just small amounts...

there are better sources available online like mimosa hostilis root bark....

a suitable MAOI can probably be obtained where you buy the mhrb....

if you just want DMT, an acid base extraction is in order....
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Old 2008-11-18, 23:57
penguinjam penguinjam is offline
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yeah mhrb is the best - anything else and you have to go through a defatting step but still risk getting gunky dmt after the naptha recrystallization. also mhrb has a high alkaloid content compared to other plants, and you will be getting n,n,dmt without 5-meo-dmt or beta-carbolines (maoi's).

The extraction is real easy, but make sure you use naptha and not xylene or toluene or you will get an unknown alkaloid called "jungle spice" mixed with your dmt. basically it is a strong reddish-brown hallucinogen / psychadelic like dmt only people have described it as being much scarier and frightening than dmt. of course, you can do a xylene / toluene pull after your naptha pulls if you want it. also, naptha alone allows you to do the freezer recrystallization as the solubility of dmt in naptha is very temperature dependent. without the recrystallization you will left with yellow goo, not nice crystals. and make sure you get vm&p naptha, not lighter fluid or you will be left with impurities.
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Old 2008-11-18, 23:59
Havoc737903 Havoc737903 is offline
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Default Re: DMT, ayahuasca, how to acquire

Seriously, if you can't do your own research, you don't have any business messing with the stuff.
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Old 2008-11-19, 00:01
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After I finish getting my life back together and get a job and bank a few grand I will opens hop's house of hooch. Which will be the place all totsian go for their botanical items like this. I have a sweet person to person connect with someone in south america who does the import/export for the other companies and can supply me with hard to find items. Commin' mid 09
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Old 2008-11-19, 00:21
mr. benfield mr. benfield is offline
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Default Re: DMT, ayahuasca, how to acquire

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Originally Posted by h0ppinlowrider
After I finish getting my life back together and get a job and bank a few grand I will opens hop's house of hooch. Which will be the place all totsian go for their botanical items like this. I have a sweet person to person connect with someone in south america who does the import/export for the other companies and can supply me with hard to find items. Commin' mid 09


KEEP ME POSTED!


are these plants legal in the US? could i just go to a botanist and get them, no problem? thats the crux of what im asking

edit: yes, i am capable of doing my own research, but im having trouble finding this information and i just figured a knowledgable person could help me out. as a matter of fact im researching the neurobiological effects of both endogenous and exogenous N,N Dimethyltryptamine for my senior project.
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Old 2008-11-19, 00:27
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Default Re: DMT, ayahuasca, how to acquire

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Originally Posted by Havoc737903
Seriously, if you can't do your own research, you don't have any business messing with the stuff.


I hate when people say this shit, the kid is just lazy and finds it much easier to ask a question on totse and have other people give him all the information. Shut the fuck up.
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Old 2008-11-19, 00:28
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Default Re: DMT, ayahuasca, how to acquire

Quote:
Originally Posted by h0ppinlowrider
After I finish getting my life back together and get a job and bank a few grand I will opens hop's house of hooch. Which will be the place all totsian go for their botanical items like this. I have a sweet person to person connect with someone in south america who does the import/export for the other companies and can supply me with hard to find items. Commin' mid 09


I think totseans would be happier if you just killed yourself.
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Old 2008-11-19, 00:31
ristortion ristortion is offline
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I think totseans would be happier if you just killed yourself.

he aint that hardcore
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Old 2008-11-19, 00:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by h0ppinlowrider
After I finish getting my life back together and get a job and bank a few grand I will opens hop's house of hooch. Which will be the place all totsian go for their botanical items like this. I have a sweet person to person connect with someone in south america who does the import/export for the other companies and can supply me with hard to find items. Commin' mid 09


I lol'd.

Also, hooch = booze.
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Old 2008-11-19, 00:35
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Default Re: DMT, ayahuasca, how to acquire

I think totseans would be happier if you just killed yourself.

yep...

Look for online botanical vendors selling MHRB google turns up several results....

you can have it shipped to your door.... as far as legality, I'm not sure, but people get away with it.... by all means it should be illegal to possess but then again having phalaris grass on your property would technically be just as illegal...
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Old 2008-11-19, 00:52
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KEEP ME POSTED!


are these plants legal in the US? could i just go to a botanist and get them, no problem? thats the crux of what im asking

edit: yes, i am capable of doing my own research, but im having trouble finding this information and i just figured a knowledgable person could help me out. as a matter of fact im researching the neurobiological effects of both endogenous and exogenous N,N Dimethyltryptamine for my senior project.

Oh by the way, please don't ever post anything even slightly positive in regards or response to something h0ppin posted.
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Old 2008-11-19, 01:04
mr. benfield mr. benfield is offline
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Default Re: DMT, ayahuasca, how to acquire

Oh by the way, please don't ever post anything even slightly positive in regards or response to something h0ppin posted.

ah, gotchya. i havent really been around totse too much recently so i dont really know any of the reputations of different totsians. its been about 2 years since ive really been on here like hardcore.
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Old 2008-11-19, 01:10
MR.Kitty55 MR.Kitty55 is offline
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ah, gotchya. i havent really been around totse too much recently so i dont really know any of the reputations of different totsians. its been about 2 years since ive really been on here like hardcore.

people on totse lack status in real life so this is the only place where they can be elitist...its best to just ignore them and ask/do/say whatever you want....
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Old 2008-11-19, 01:30
Havoc737903 Havoc737903 is offline
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I hate when people say this shit, the kid is just lazy and finds it much easier to ask a question on totse and have other people give him all the information. Shut the fuck up.

Being lazy can also be an indicator of being careless. Not quite the best properties of someone looking into obtaining plants for purposes that may or may not be legal, let alone consuming the chemicals they contain. Then again, I don't quite see how you can fuck up putting some shit in a pot and letting it cook.
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Old 2008-11-19, 01:57
mr. benfield mr. benfield is offline
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Default Re: DMT, ayahuasca, how to acquire

Being lazy can also be an indicator of being careless. Not quite the best properties of someone looking into obtaining plants for purposes that may or may not be legal, let alone consuming the chemicals they contain. Then again, I don't quite see how you can fuck up putting some shit in a pot and letting it cook.



its not being careless.


"hey man, do you have the time?"

"yeah."

"can you tell me?"

"why dont you look it up yourself, you lazy bum."


essentially, this just happened.


if i were careless, why would i even bother with something so complex and significant?
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Old 2008-11-19, 02:39
niggar hater niggar hater is offline
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Default Re: DMT, ayahuasca, how to acquire

KEEP ME POSTED!
...


wouldn't recommend it, hes a scammer
 
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