Outlaw "Race"

[DerDrache]

I would really, really love to see a nation (preferably a diverse, progressive one...Canada or France comes to mind) institute a policy that made discussion of race and racial differences illegal. I mean, when is racial categorization ever useful? When it isn't directly fueling racism and stupidity, it really isn't doing anything except maintaining the notion that we're "different". In an ideal world, I think humans would say "That guy has light skin and his family is from Europe. So what?", or "That guy has dark skin and his family from Africa. So what?". As long as we keep making distinctions between "black", "white", "brown", etc in practically every context...I don't think we're ever going to get there.

This law would make it illegal for any news or media source to distinguish or identify racial differences in any way, and people heard using racial terminology ("black", "white", "hispanic", etc.) could be fined or arrested as though they were using a racist slur. The only time it would be legal to describe someone's "racial" features is when it is part of a necessary description (ie. imagery in a book, history, describing someone from a group), and anything that served the purpose of grouping them into something equivalent to a "race" would be illegal.

If you had to go around and constantly make sure you didn't identify people by race, I think that over time people would simply stop thinking about race (in urban centers, at least).

Well, at the very worst, this would just be an interesting social experiment. What do you guys think? Would you alter the specifics of the hypothetical law?

No, definitely not. We aren't equal, so let's not pretend we are. Blacks are closer to apes on the evolutionary scale. Whites have invented everything you use today and yet you still cannot show any respect for the superior race. You will learn the hard way, boy, you cannot disrespect a white.

this place is like the most jewish place on this site.

if you want to speed up miscegenation, the jews should change nigger dna so they dont stink as much really, they can wash, or whatever else, but they still stink.

thats where that thing comes from "i'll be on you like stink on a nigger"

that and cure aids, because most of the nigger babies all of these filthy white whores are shitting out usually are born with hiv. you can bet that heidi klums niglets has it...lolz

[dagnabitt]

Keep this discussion high brow or I'm closing it.

DerDrache you're a valued poster. Unfortunately these threads attract nothing but bottom feeders.

[WritingANovel]

How typical of a fucking nigger.

A nigger doesn't like something, ie, the discussion of racial matters, so he advocates that we make it illegal. What a fucking nigger.

If I personally don't like eating meat, can I make a law to ban other people from doing it? No. Your personal likes and dislikes shouldn't dictate what other people can or cannot do.

Originally Posted by WritingANovel

How typical of a fucking nigger.

the fuck wha....

A nigger doesn't like something, ie, the discussion of racial matters, so he advocates that we make it illegal. What a fucking nigger.

you mean like the white supremacists who made it illegal for blacks to read, raped them, destroyed their culture, etc....

Originally Posted by DerDrache

I would really, really love to see a nation (preferably a diverse, progressive one...Canada or France comes to mind) institute a policy that made discussion of race and racial differences illegal.

That'd be fucked up honestly. See what happens with "Holocaust Denial" laws in Europe. And Hate Speech in Canada. Freedom is taken away

I mean, when is racial categorization ever useful?

to determine where you came from

, it really isn't doing anything except maintaining the notion that we're "different".

humans ARE different. Male or Female or intersex or Transgendered/Transsexual, Neurodivergent or Neurotypical, etc.

In an ideal world, I think humans would say "That guy has light skin and his family is from Europe. So what?", or "That guy has dark skin and his family from Africa. So what?".

that's probably happen in the future.

people heard using racial terminology ("black", "white", "hispanic", etc.) could be fined or arrested as though they were using a racist slur.

the fuck what. Lots of people going to jail

If you had to go around and constantly make sure you didn't identify people by race, I think that over time people would simply stop thinking about race (in urban centers, at least).

no. it would repress it and make it worse and more appealing. "why do you pass laws against it if it's so wrong. Hiding something?" The law also prevents dissenting and opposing the law. Like Holocaust Denial laws.

[WritingANovel]

Originally Posted by Warsie

the fuck wha....



you mean like the white supremacists who made it illegal for blacks to read, raped them, destroyed their culture, etc....

what's your point? two wrongs dont make a right. Just because some white racists did something bad it doesn't give the black people carte blanche to do something bad.

Do you even have a point?

Originally Posted by Cuntbag

No, definitely not. We aren't equal, so let's not pretend we are. Blacks are closer to apes on the evolutionary scale. Whites have invented everything you use today and yet you still cannot show any respect for the superior race. You will learn the hard way, boy, you cannot disrespect a white.

This.

If all races are equal, certainly mentioning race is no problem since they all have the same amount of faults and benefits, right? By suggesting censorship of race, you are tacitly admitting that certain races have more to hide.

Originally Posted by ilovesawedoffpump

this place is like the most jewish place on this site.

if you want to speed up miscegenation, the jews should change nigger dna so they dont stink as much really, they can wash, or whatever else, but they still stink.

thats where that thing comes from "i'll be on you like stink on a nigger"

that and cure aids, because most of the nigger babies all of these filthy white whores are shitting out usually are born with hiv. you can bet that heidi klums niglets has it...lolz

This.

Originally Posted by WritingANovel

How typical of a fucking nigger.

A nigger doesn't like something, ie, the discussion of racial matters, so he advocates that we make it illegal. What a fucking nigger.

If I personally don't like eating meat, can I make a law to ban other people from doing it? No. Your personal likes and dislikes shouldn't dictate what other people can or cannot do.

Good post WAN!

Originally Posted by Warsie

you mean like the white supremacists who made it illegal for blacks to read, raped them, destroyed their culture, etc...

What culture?

Originally Posted by Warsie

no. it would repress it and make it worse and more appealing. "why do you pass laws against it if it's so wrong. Hiding something?" The law also prevents dissenting and opposing the law. Like Holocaust Denial laws.

This is a good point, sort of. The adamancy of Jews in promoting laws against Holocaust denial proves that they have something to hide. If the Jews could easily dispute the claims of Holocaust revisionists, why would they resort to censorship and smears?

[DerDrache]

Originally Posted by dagnabitt

Keep this discussion high brow or I'm closing it.

DerDrache you're a valued poster. Unfortunately these threads attract nothing but bottom feeders.

Haha, right after you posted that there was a flood of retards. Feel free to close it if it keeps up, but...if possible, can you leave it open until we at least get a couple of intelligent responses?

[Ron Smythberg]

I agree with this idea 100% and I would love to see it implemented.

I think punishments should be given based on context. Using racial slurs or stereotypes would probably garner the heftiest fines and/or jail times. After committing one of these crimes the perpetrators could also be uploaded to a database so folks can make sure they aren't hiring or living near a racist.

I am very keen on this idea and I am thinking of writing a letter to my mayor and perhaps even to the President.

Unfortunately something like this will obviously be met with much resistance by overt and covert racists.

Those who want change and a better future must unite and get these laws passed. There is HOPE.

[WritingANovel]

Originally Posted by Ron Smythberg

I agree with this idea 100% and I would love to see it implemented.

I think punishments should be given based on context. Using racial slurs or stereotypes would probably garner the heftiest fines and/or jail times. After committing one of these crimes the perpetrators could also be uploaded to a database so folks can make sure they aren't hiring or living near a racist.

I am very keen on this idea and I am thinking of writing a letter to my mayor and perhaps even to the President.

Unfortunately something like this will obviously be met with much resistance by overt and covert racists.

Those who want change and a better future must unite and get these laws passed. There is HOPE.

Making certain speeches illegal just because you dont like them. How typical of a fucking KIKE, which you are, KIKE BOY.

[Ron Smythberg]

Originally Posted by WritingANovel

Making certain speeches illegal just because you dont like them. How typical of a fucking KIKE, which you are, KIKE BOY.

You'd be one of the first detained. Good luck getting hired too when everyone finds out your racist nazi scum. I hope you have a lot of money to pay the fines with, haha.

Oh and you will probably say "Well there is no law right now". Trust me, it is coming. Just look at Canada, they have already many hate-crime laws in place. Don't worry eventually people will stop tolerating your hate and we will see some real change.

[WritingANovel]

Originally Posted by Ron Smythberg

You'd be one of the first detained. Good luck getting hired too when everyone finds out your racist nazi scum. I hope you have a lot of money to pay the fines with, haha.

Oh and you will probably say "Well there is no law right now". Trust me, it is coming. Just look at Canada, they have already many hate-crime laws in place. Don't worry eventually people will stop tolerating your hate and we will see some real change.

Just because people are turning faggots it doesn't mean faggotry is ok. Same with your totalitarian bullshit. Just because you can pass laws to punish people who say certain things, it doesn't mean it's ok.

Kike boy, your kike colour is showing. I hope one day all your kike kind gets sterlised.

Let me ask you this, kike boy. How is it right to make laws prohibiting speeches? Seriously. Tell me.

[Ron Smythberg]

Originally Posted by WritingANovel

Just because people are turning faggots it doesn't mean faggotry is ok. Same with your totalitarian bullshit. Just because you can pass laws to punish people who say certain things, it doesn't mean it's ok.

Kike boy, your kike colour is showing. I hope one day all your kike kind gets sterlised.

Let me ask you this, kike boy. How is it right to make laws prohibiting speeches? Seriously. Tell me.

So in this one post you have already demonstrated that: you are a heavy racist, Nazi (the sterilization comment sealed you in that coffin), homophobic (you asserted that being a homosexual is wrong, I am sure you would say the same of trans-gendered, bi-curious, etc).

I think any sane human being would say YES hate is wrong and that hateful regimes that genocide people based off of their creed is evil and must be stopped.

Passing hate laws would be one of the greatest things we can do as a nation. To finally TAKE A STAND against the hate and bigotry. It is definitely the right thing to do.

Now please take your racist rantings somewhere else and stop polluting this thread with your hate.

[WritingANovel]

Originally Posted by Ron Smythberg

So in this one post you have already demonstrated that: you are a heavy racist, Nazi (the sterilization comment sealed you in that coffin), homophobic (you asserted that being a homosexual is wrong, I am sure you would say the same of trans-gendered, bi-curious, etc).

I think any sane human being would say YES hate is wrong and that hateful regimes that genocide people based off of their creed is evil and must be stopped.

Wrong. "Hatred" is not wrong. It's one of the many human emotions. Furthermore, you are not supposed to legislate people into not having one of the emotions we are born to have. Also, there is a difference between genocide, which is an action, and "hate speech", which is, guess what? SPEECH.

Passing hate laws would be one of the greatest things we can do as a nation.

That's what YOU, the kike boy, thinks. The rest of people who love their freedom of speech beg to differ.

To finally TAKE A STAND against the hate and bigotry. It is definitely the right thing to do.

People have a right to be full of hate and bigoted if they so wish. Dont you fucking tell me what I can or cannot do (as long as I am not breaking any laws).

Now please take your racist rantings somewhere else and stop polluting this thread with your hate.

Why don't YOU take your filthy kike garbage back to Israel, kike boy?

p.s. I am asian.

[Ron Smythberg]

I did not say hatred in itself was wrong. It is the spreading of hate that is wrong. It has been deemed illegal in many different countries which encompass every major ethnicity. You can try to keep us down but we will win.

Yeah people have a right to hate those different to them, do they have a right to intimidate and recruit others to join them? NO, no, NO!

The fact is Hate Crime laws are a necessary addition to our legal system and I look forward to when they will be issued and enforced. It is unavoidable, it is just common sense to make laws against this evil.

WritingAnovel: Your ignorance has turned me off from trying to argue with you further. Hopefully you will see the light before it is too late. I have nothing more to add then perhaps you apply for some professional help and/or psychiatric medication.

[DerDrache]

Originally Posted by Ron Smythberg

I agree with this idea 100% and I would love to see it implemented.

I think punishments should be given based on context. Using racial slurs or stereotypes would probably garner the heftiest fines and/or jail times. After committing one of these crimes the perpetrators could also be uploaded to a database so folks can make sure they aren't hiring or living near a racist.

I am very keen on this idea and I am thinking of writing a letter to my mayor and perhaps even to the President.

Unfortunately something like this will obviously be met with much resistance by overt and covert racists.

Those who want change and a better future must unite and get these laws passed. There is HOPE.

I'm thinking that maybe we could start a movement via networks like Facebook, believe it or not. You get a movement of people making an effort to no longer identify themselves by their race, and then we can try to get some actual legal changes in place (if it's even necessary at that point).

By the way: Would you mind putting WAN on your ignore list? She/He is definitely just trolling this thread and trying to get it locked.

[WritingANovel]

Originally Posted by Ron Smythberg

I did not say hatred in itself was wrong. It is the spreading of hate that is wrong. It has been deemed illegal in many different countries which encompass every major ethnicity. You can try to keep us down but we will win.

Like I said, just because a lot of countries have hate crime laws it doesn't make it right. If a lot of people are committing rape, does that make it right?

Also the only reason vermins like you are "winning" is because your kike brethren have all the money and power in the world.

Yeah people have a right to hate those different to them, do they have a right to intimidate and recruit others to join them? NO, no, NO!

Depends on what you meant by "intimidate" and "recruit". In fact, I am almost 100% certain that they can recruit, no matter what their message is.

The fact is Hate Crime laws are a necessary addition to our legal system and I look forward to when they will be issued and enforced. It is unavoidable, it is just common sense to make laws against this evil.

It's necessary according to YOU. I say they are not only redundant, in fact they are a threat to freedom of speech.

WritingAnovel: Your ignorance has turned me off from trying to argue with you further. Hopefully you will see the light before it is too late. I have nothing more to add then perhaps you apply for some professional help and/or psychiatric medication.

You are shying away from debating with me because you know that making laws prohibiting certain speeches is WRONG.

[Ron Smythberg]

Originally Posted by DerDrache

I'm thinking that maybe we could start a movement via networks like Facebook, believe it or not. You get a movement of people making an effort to no longer identify themselves by their race, and then we can try to get some actual legal changes in place (if it's even necessary at that point).

By the way: Would you mind putting WAN on your ignore list? She/He is definitely just trolling this thread and trying to get it locked.

Thats a good idea.

I think though that we could get the laws in place regardless of having a movement. Look at Canada or other nations, they had no national movement.

But yes, I will definitely get started on some kind of facebook group.

Ok, I have ignored WAN. Yeah he is definitely just trolling.

[Slaughterama]

WAN might be getting overworked about this argument, but hes right, how can you think that any form of censorship is good? Even if someone is inciting hate, they still have a right to their beliefs and have a right to speak their mind. Just because you think that somebody's opinion on a certain matter is bad or evil, does not give you the right to silence that opinion.

I'm thinking that maybe we could start a movement via networks like Facebook, believe it or not. You get a movement of people making an effort to no longer identify themselves by their race, and then we can try to get some actual legal changes in place (if it's even necessary at that point).

Please, if you are going to do this, do it to a country that's already shitty where the people don't have as much freedom, you will probably be more successful and I don't want you making my country shitty.

This whole argument basically is about peoples feelings, that's the whole reasoning behind it. God forbid someone should have their feelings hurt by the evil white mans racists speeches. Seriously, grow up, this sounds like the same "racial tolerance and understanding" bullshit they feed you in highschool, where they don't care if you're a racist as long as you don't show it.

[Ron Smythberg]

Yeah it may sound radical to you. But all good things meet resistance.

Hate and the spreading of hate, do no good for anyone or anything. You can call it what you want but it is a long time coming.

Canada is one of the freest and safest nations. They also have some of the toughest hate crime laws. I think we could do even better.

No, no, NO! Using racial slurs, stereotypes and even racial classifications do much more harm then good. Look at all the harm caused by racism; genocide, riots, lynchings, etc. It is not about "feelings" as you put it. It is about national security and the securing of a great future for our children. I don't know about you but I would much prefer my children living in a safer and race-speech free environment.

Originally Posted by WritingANovel

what's your point? two wrongs dont make a right. Just because some white racists did something bad it doesn't give the black people carte blanche to do something bad.

Do you even have a point?

noticing your kee-jerk reaction to him. and your past posts

see

Originally Posted by WritingANovel

Making certain speeches illegal just because you dont like them. How typical of a fucking KIKE, which you are, KIKE BOY.

Originally Posted by (^_^)

What culture?

the various African culture, Mr. Sarcasm Troll.

Originally Posted by (^_^)

This is a good point, sort of. The adamancy of Jews in promoting laws against Holocaust denial proves that they have something to hide. If the Jews could easily dispute the claims of Holocaust revisionists, why would they resort to censorship and smears?

I don't know. though it's more then the Jews who passed those laws. IIRC the ones in Germany originally were part of the "Anti-Nazification" programs the Allied Occupation forces did.

Yeah it is odd that they'd be willing to throw people in jail.

History is manipulated yes. see how few people in America talk about the Esstern Front of World War II and how violent that was. The Soviets took the brunt of the shit the Nazis gave them. Yes the US provided a shitload of aid though to help them and keep them from dying though.

Originally Posted by Ron Smythberg

Now please take your racist rantings somewhere else and stop polluting this thread with your hate.

are you serious? Remember you originally used that account to troll people and say all fat people should be sent to fat camps or killed off.

Originally Posted by WritingANovel

Like I said, just because a lot of countries have hate crime laws it doesn't make it right. If a lot of people are committing rape, does that make it right?

dudette. That's a shitty argument and could be EASILY turned against you.

Originally Posted by Ron Smythberg

Ok, I have ignored WAN. Yeah he is definitely just trolling.

WritingANovel is female

A black individual robs and kills the owners of a Korean convenience store after the clerk tells him he "feels sorry for his mother" because he fastens his pants around his femurs. If I witnessed this, I would say a BLACK, 5'3" 440 pounds wearing a wifebeater, khaki pants and air force one's did it. If I said it was just "some guy" and gave a height, they wouldn't know who to arrest. Even if it wasn't outright racial, I would have to say kinky hair, broad nose, etc. You can eliminate this by simply calling the suspect what he is. It is a natural tendency and acceptable, individual races would not exist if nature didn't intend so.

And most media outlets don't mention race. It's already obvious who did the crime most of the time judging by the area as well as the nature of the crime. Remember the reporter from Arkansas who's home was broken in to, after which she was raped brutally by two black men and then beaten within an inch of her life (she would go on to die) with a hammer? They withheld race as well as knowledge of any suspects for weeks on that incident in the media just for your inflated sense of entitlement. Go choke on a spark plug piggy.

Originally Posted by Cuntbag

No, definitely not. We aren't equal, so let's not pretend we are. Blacks are closer to apes on the evolutionary scale. Whites have invented everything you use today and yet you still cannot show any respect for the superior race. You will learn the hard way, boy, you cannot disrespect a white.

Just an idiot. More more. No less.

Oh, shit, I am thinking of a certain amendment to a constitution which makes this impossible.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

That doesn't mean freedom of speech as approved by nancy black boys who know they aren't worth shit so must attempt to fine/jail people telling them so.

If you knew race was equal, you would not have any problem forming a counter argument to any racial slurs, but you know your people aren't worth a shit.

[Slaughterama]

You see, once you outlaw certain words, and try and censor real life, somebody will have to decide which words will be outlawed, and as language is constantly evolving, you will need more and more restrictions, and some words which are harmless might get put in the restricted list.
Watch the documentary "This Film is Not Yet Rated" its about the censorship of movies and the media.

Originally Posted by Ron Smythberg

No, no, NO! Using racial slurs, stereotypes and even racial classifications do much more harm then good. Look at all the harm caused by racism; genocide, riots, lynchings, etc.

We already have laws in place for those specific scenarios, if you try and take away peoples rights it will lead to more violence.

It is not about "feelings" as you put it. It is about national security and the securing of a great future for our children. I don't know about you but I would much prefer my children living in a safer and race-speech free environment.

Because Canada is so ridden with hate, violence and racism right? If you're so motivated to change things in the world, go to a country where this is actually an issue.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Martian Luger King

In other words, you believe activities such as robbery and kidnapping are more respectable than earning an honest living?

Not at all. He suggested that as a race they were stupid, and incapable of accomplishing simple tasks.

Let me guess, you're a nigger? Only a negroid or a kike could be so infatuated with money as not to care about the morality of earning it.

Let me guess, you'rea hypocrite? You talk shit about morality, then mouth off like someone with none. Shut the fuck up if you don't live what you preach.

[The Methematician]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

Not at all. He suggested that as a race they were stupid, and incapable of accomplishing simple tasks.

Well..... :

Originally Posted by DerDrache

Wheredid I say that people who use their willpower to become sober are pussies? English: Learn it.

--

In other news: I failed. Came home to find ungodly amounts of my favorite beer and liquors.

Statistics don't lie like a Jew......I'm afraid......

[Martian Luger King]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

Not at all. He suggested that as a race they were stupid, and incapable of accomplishing simple tasks.

Well unfortunately not everyone has the privilege of being born in Somalia, if I was there now I'm sure I could be pulling in 30,000,000 - 1,000,000,000 a month.

Let me guess, you'rea hypocrite? You talk shit about morality, then mouth off like someone with none. Shut the fuck up if you don't live what you preach.

There is nothing immoral about words.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Martian Luger King

Well unfortunately not everyone has the privilege of being born in Somalia, if I was there now I'm sure I could be pulling in 30,000,000 - 1,000,000,000 a month.

And unfortunately, those generalizations don't work. Good thing it was only an off-the-cuff remark, eh?

There is nothing immoral about words.

Sure, if you don't mean them. Of course, if you don't actually mean them, there's no point in you being in this thread, is there? Racism, on the other hand, is every bit as "immoral" as stealing from others or doing any other hateful things.

The negroid lacks any initiative or drive, only working and learning when it is required to survive. They lack the brain a white person does, and although they are physically more muscular and consequently stronger, we far exceed them in brainpower, which is why things like Zimbabwe and South Africa failed after white rule ended. Africans do not think on too high a level. And look at them, they look disgusting, smell disgusting, breed like rabbits, and are unable to do much without a white hand moving them.

[WritingANovel]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

Racism, on the other hand, is every bit as "immoral" as stealing from others or doing any other hateful things.

First, define racism. It could mean different things to different people.
Secondly, you think racism is immoral. Some people don't.

[nshanin]

Originally Posted by WritingANovel

First, define racism. It could mean different things to different people.
Secondly, you think racism is immoral. Some people don't.

Why don't you add an argument to the discussion? Anyone can deconstruct.

[WritingANovel]

Originally Posted by nshanin

Why don't you add an argument to the discussion? Anyone can deconstruct.

1. I wasn't deconstructing per se. I was refuting what he said.
2. I will decide when/if I will add an argument.
3. Fuck off.

[nshanin]

Originally Posted by WritingANovel

1. I wasn't deconstructing per se. I was refuting what he said.
2. I will decide when/if I will add an argument.
3. Fuck off.