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 #1 
Old 2008-11-17, 19:24
Frackle Frackle is offline
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Just bear with me on this one... just a really random idea I had.

Below is what gave me the idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMi7Jkay0fY


I just finished watching "How it's Made" on the discovery channel and I was thinking of small to medium sized fire extinguishers modified to "Shoot" various flammable substances with little to almost no modifications to the existing fire extinguisher would be possible.

I was thinking about the chemical powder fire extinguishers for this as once they are depleted all you have to do it screw off the top empty and clean it of any fire retardant that may be left inside fill it with any fuel or fuel slurry re attach the top pressurize it using an air compressor then either make a nozzle for the front with some sort of encased cloth or fabric soaked in gas, zippo fluid, whatever or just tape a coat hanger with a wad of rags out front of it and light them.

I'll have to find an old fire extinguisher next garage sale I'm at to try it but I'd personally like to see it work.

Also I believe if you're going to go to that extent in a protest you'll have something that doesn't look too suspicious until it's used, they can be mass produced and mass used, they'd be light, on site disposable if precautions are taken (Gloves worn, wiped of prints ect ect), and can be on the cheap to make.

Just an idea I've been kicking around so any input would be appreciated.
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Old 2008-11-17, 22:57
QMA QMA is offline
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Don't do it... My friend got hurt doing this... The gas was heavier and misted under high pressure... to much gas came out... explosion... Propane tank... mythbusters... AK-47... Lavared... Tequila... A moist nugget... Marijuana... TOTSE... Profit
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Old 2008-11-17, 23:22
LavaRed LavaRed is offline
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Lavared...

Confused
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Old 2008-11-17, 23:36
The Swede The Swede is offline
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Hector, msn dangnit
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Old 2008-11-17, 23:41
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Just use a can of Raid + a lighter.
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Old 2008-11-18, 00:27
Gorcrow Gorcrow is offline
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That video is so fucking badass.
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Old 2008-11-18, 15:06
Frackle Frackle is offline
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Looking us some stuff I found out this isn't the most original idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9ig4PL5sU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S45m5FwnJIE&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8O20uXl9wQ


Either way I know it works now :).

[edit added link]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjf-2lHFHAc
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Old 2008-11-18, 23:37
Cloaked Dagger Cloaked Dagger is offline
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Just make sure you don't kill yourself(or worse someone else) accidentally or end up in the hospital now. I imagine it can work, but I can also imagine the thing exploding in your face.
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Old 2008-11-19, 01:28
dood44 dood44 is offline
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I laughed when the guy with the flame got beat the fuck down.
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Old 2008-11-19, 14:58
Chainhit Chainhit is offline
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keep in mind a good flame thrower will spray gas at about 1/2 gallon / second.
You need unburnt fuel to reach target to do damage to it too, i think. with a flowrate that is too small you will not be doing enough damage
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Old 2008-11-19, 15:11
Acolyte
 
Australia(south)
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do u recon a valve would stop the flame from traveling back into the bottle ps lol u can refill water extinguishers coz ppl put paint in them n graf
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Old 2008-11-19, 16:37
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Also I believe if you're going to go to that extent in a protest you'll have something that doesn't look too suspicious until it's used, they can be mass produced and mass used, they'd be light, on site disposable if precautions are taken (Gloves worn, wiped of prints ect ect), and can be on the cheap to make.

Just an idea I've been kicking around so any input would be appreciated.

A flamethrower at a protest would be the difference between students getting their asses beat by cops, and cops firing blindly into crowds. Your heart's in the right place, but you're going about it the wrong way.

Good idea though, I finally have a use for empty fire extinguishers, we might have one or two around the house. Don't fire extinguishers also have high pressure release valves? That would be a nice flamethrower feature, considering you wouldn't want something exploding in your hands.
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Old 2008-11-19, 17:00
Acolyte
 
Australia(south)
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http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=GgYpRpiZmf0 yea check it killer shit this is also good n homemade http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=QNu0sR89_BM
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Old 2008-11-19, 17:17
Acolyte
 
Australia(south)
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http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc3vcXp_7O8 lol super soaker flame thrower nothing more dangerous he almost turnd his mate into freddy kruger
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Old 2008-11-19, 17:36
Acolyte
 
Australia(south)
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A flamethrower at a protest would be the difference between students getting their asses beat by cops, and cops firing blindly into crowds. Your heart's in the right place, but you're going about it the wrong way.

Good idea though, I finally have a use for empty fire extinguishers, we might have one or two around the house. Don't fire extinguishers also have high pressure release valves? That would be a nice flamethrower feature, considering you wouldn't want something exploding in your hands. uum i gues that means that if u start 2 run outa fuel the flame wont travel back into the bottle?? get back to me on this please coz thats tha safety feature i need to make this i wont with out it its simply 2 dangerous
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Old 2008-11-19, 17:40
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For Christ's sake learn to type.

Also, stop bumping the thread. No one wants to help you if you sound borderline retarded because no one wants to be held liable when your parents sue after you kill yourself.

A one-way flow valve should prevent flames from igniting a pressurized fuel source, but if you don't know how valves work well enough to answer that question on your own, don't do it. Stay in school.






And Frackle, don't use this in a protest or anything. Not only is it needlessly illegal and dangerous, but it's liable to get you shot along with other innocent people.
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Old 2008-11-19, 21:44
Frackle Frackle is offline
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Was never planning to... I was using it in term with the original video as an improvement to their rather extreme tactics as a more feasible way to cause the most damage via en mass and be the most effective.

Point
Shoot
Drop Canister
Run

A protest with multiple like minded people would be rather effective... yes allot of people would get hurt but then the media would do a smear campaign against the ruling officials as there would be better ways to handle such situations ect ect.



As for the fire going back into the canister and violently rupturing it if you watch the videos you'll notice when it runs out of fuel or air it kinda just stops working all together... you get a small belch of flames and that's about the extent of it.



As for me I'll more than likely make one for use around the farm when we have brush piles to burn and I'll more than likely see about making a fuel / oil slurry, 1/4 filtered old motor oil 3/4 gas will probably be the ratios by measurement I'll just have to shake the canister before I use it because it'll probbaly few and far between that I'll need it so it'll more than likely separate.
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Old 2008-11-19, 21:53
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As far as leaking, I would be wary because the valves really are not very good. They are only mildly pressure-sealed. Check how a partially-charged fire extinguisher can leak. Not safe.

On the subject of protesting though, the protesters would look like nutcases if they had flamethrowers, and it would be very easy for some idiotic, emotional hippy type to accidentally torch fellow supporters.

If there's a protest, keep it legal. If there's a riot, well... at least nothing's being done half-assed, though I disagree with the idea.
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Old 2008-11-20, 05:19
Acolyte
 
Australia(south)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Random_Looney
For Christ's sake learn to type.

Also, stop bumping the thread. No one wants to help you if you sound borderline retarded because no one wants to be held liable when your parents sue after you kill yourself.

A one-way flow valve should prevent flames from igniting a pressurized fuel source, but if you don't know how valves work well enough to answer that question on your own, don't do it. Stay in school.






And Frackle, don't use this in a protest or anything. Not only is it needlessly illegal and dangerous, but it's liable to get you shot along with other innocent people.

hey dont be a arsehole thats how every one down were i come from writes i was reading biology books from front to back at the age of 8 an my iq was 113
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Old 2008-11-20, 05:46
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hey dont be a arsehole thats how every one down were i come from writes i was reading biology books from front to back at the age of 8 an my iq was 113

No one cares/believes you. Stay "down where you come from."
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Old 2008-11-20, 06:09
Acolyte
 
Australia(south)
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suck a dick i cant belive your the moderater you actually give a bad name to totse a few people ave commented on my writing i guess its weird so ill stop you dont have to put shit on me fag i enjoy the mental stimulation of this site the unusual questions people ask and im usually able to comment and know what im talking about were as most people wouldnt sign up for a site like this
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Old 2008-11-20, 06:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by macsicman
suck a dick i cant belive your the moderater you actually give a bad name to totse a few people ave commented on my writing i guess its weird so ill stop you dont have to put shit on me fag i enjoy the mental stimulation of this site the unusual questions people ask and im usually able to comment and know what im talking about were as most people wouldnt sign up for a site like this


Project much? Guess what? I want idiots like you to leave. You'd be mentally stimulated by a piece of string.
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Old 2008-11-20, 06:33
Acolyte
 
Australia(south)
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what makes you think im stupid just because i was writing in text form dosent mean shit in case u didnt realise my point still gets through and its quicker der i guess your smart judging by your profile but pick a topic im interested in an youve got no chance you wouldnt dis me face to face id make you swallow your teeth now ive had enough of this silly being mean by means of posting comments so im not gona say any more i admmited my fault NOT STUPIDITY so you can say what you like im not gona participate in this i may be smart but at least im not a geekMad
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Old 2008-11-20, 14:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by macsicman
what makes you think im stupid just because i was writing in text form dosent mean shit in case u didnt realise my point still gets through and its quicker der i guess your smart judging by your profile but pick a topic im interested in an youve got no chance you wouldnt dis me face to face id make you swallow your teeth now ive had enough of this silly being mean by means of posting comments so im not gona say any more i admmited my fault NOT STUPIDITY so you can say what you like im not gona participate in this i may be smart but at least im not a geekMad


I think you're stupid because you can't type and don't know how to research things like valves, nor do you know how they function despite the fact they are a very basic element of mechanics/engineering. The former is why I told you to type like you had some semblance of a primate's ability to be trained.

I also think you're stupid because you threaten ridiculous shit like you'd make me swallow my teeth in person. You have no idea who I am, and with my background, I'd have a few nice advantages on my side. I also don't feel the need to pound my chest and make up things to feel tough on the internet.
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Old 2008-11-20, 14:06
The Swede The Swede is offline
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Woo gangsta will make RL swallow his own tooth, sounds dangerous!:D

In all seriousness, bragging about what shit "you know" and how much you would "kick someones ass" aint what you do here in WC, go and steal some candy instead.
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Old 2008-11-20, 14:33
Acolyte
 
Australia(south)
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dude ive been on sustanon 250 for a year now im a steroid eating wilderbeast with muai tai training on my side lol i was just thinking i dont know what the valve is made out of if its plastic i could melt with petrol going through it i looked it up in google all it comes up with is heaps of site that sell them even when i typed in how do they work next to it in some sites i heard they can be dodgy to so i just didnt wana blow myself up! soo eeeh..! what do you want me to be a genius im only 18
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Old 2008-11-20, 14:35
The Swede The Swede is offline
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im a steroid eating wilderbeast
Gee, no wonder you can't type.:p
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Old 2008-11-22, 06:54
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dude ive been on sustanon 250 for a year now im only 18

Why are you taking steroids when you're only 18?
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Old 2008-11-22, 07:38
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I was a hell of a lot smarter than you at your age.

This guy is borderline retarded. A quick search of posts shows that. Thread closed.
 
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