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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-11-16, 17:44
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haggard 
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How to end A bad trip?
I'm not much of a hallucinogen user and don't plan on using any besides shrooms. I just don't have the right mindset. My question is how would you end a bad trip or "bummer". I read somewhere, maybe erowid, that Risperdal(risperidone) can potentially end a trip. I would imagine that Thorazine might also be used in the worst case. If it was me, I wouldn't want to go to the ER for something like that, no insurance. I probably would just take a few xanax till I calm the fuck down or pass out. I don't know, what do you guys think? Any experiences? Thanks.
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#2
 2008-11-16, 17:47
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
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Originally Posted by haggard
I'm not much of a hallucinogen user and don't plan on using any besides shrooms. I just don't have the right mindset. My question is how would you end a bad trip or "bummer". I read somewhere, maybe erowid, that Risperdal(risperidone) can potentially end a trip. I would imagine that Thorazine might also be used in the worst case. If it was me, I wouldn't want to go to the ER for something like that, no insurance. I probably would just take a few xanax till I calm the fuck down or pass out. I don't know, what do you guys think? Any experiences? Thanks.
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lol first off your chances to have a bad trip off mushrooms compared to something like LSD is slightly higher, so keep it in mind.
And i would MUCH rather have a bad trip off LSD then mushrooms. Mushrooms are fucking insane, and if you have a bad trip, you better have the right medicine cause there isnt any easy ways to stop it.
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#3
 2008-11-16, 17:57
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
You know... there's a really really easy way to ending a bad trip without ending the trip all together...
you could just have something to distract you, you know... happy/goofy/chill music?
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#4
 2008-11-16, 18:01
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jamaica0535 
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
If at all possible try and make it through it without trying to end it....
just let go and relax, keep in mind that everything is going to be alright in time....
Psychs are nothing like you could ever imagine, my first psych was acid, and it changed my mindset for the better, before that trip i was dealing with mild depression, it would have been severe if i hadn't started smoking weed but after that trip i was happy just to be alive.
Be in a comfortable setting when you have nothing to worry about like school or work the next day, your parents, etc.... Be able to go outside, houses can seem confining and fresh air can be incredible.... Dress warm if its going to be under 70, mushrooms can make you cold, which makes it unpleasant to be outside....
Bring a pack of cigarettes if you smoke at all, you will likely be a chimney....
but if you must try to end or at least make a trip easier, benzos or alcohol will help bring it down, enough benzos will knock you unconscious..... Still though, many people find they learn the most about themselves during difficult experiences....
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#5
 2008-11-16, 18:40
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RosettaStoned 
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
If at all possible try and make it through it without trying to end it....
just let go and relax, keep in mind that everything is going to be alright in time....
...Still though, many people find they learn the most about themselves during difficult experiences....
This^. I've never personally had a full on bad trip, I've had periods in trips though where I get really angry, or down about something, but I've read SO many times that with hallucinogens, if you're having a bad trip, you need to try and make it through it. If you do, it can have extremely positive effects on your life. Think about the bad trip as kind of like suppressed feelings or thoughts that came up, and if you don't deal with 'em, shit's just gonna get worse.
But if you're really freaking, change the setting you're in. It's been proven that setting can affect your trip. Change the music, change where you are, etc. And finally, if you still don't feel better, just take a small dose of benzos or sedatives, just enough to calm down a little bit. If you end up ending your trip though, I think you'll regret it later (so don't take enough to pass out). Hope this helps.
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#6
 2008-11-16, 20:12
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
Clozaril, Thorazine, or any typical antipsychotic will terminate a psychedelic experience.
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#7
 2008-11-16, 20:52
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
I find the best way to not have a bad trip is to be in a comfortable environment with a trusted friend. If you see some scary shit just take a deep breath and remember it is the drugs that are making you see those things. I have seen things on psychedelics that could have potentially put me into a bad trip. But I find if I quietly remind myself I am on drugs that these things can end up becoming funny. Bottom line is there is no sure way to end a bad trip. But having a drink of water and reminding yourself it is just the drugs is a good start.
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#8
 2008-11-16, 21:25
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
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Originally Posted by haggard
I'm not much of a hallucinogen user and don't plan on using any besides shrooms. I just don't have the right mindset. My question is how would you end a bad trip or "bummer". I read somewhere, maybe erowid, that Risperdal(risperidone) can potentially end a trip. I would imagine that Thorazine might also be used in the worst case. If it was me, I wouldn't want to go to the ER for something like that, no insurance. I probably would just take a few xanax till I calm the fuck down or pass out. I don't know, what do you guys think? Any experiences? Thanks.
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#9
 2008-11-16, 21:33
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
I've cut a trip short out of curiosity using haldol, just to see how well it works. But really, don't stop the trip. Man up and deal with it.
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#10
 2008-11-16, 22:04
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Cloaked Dagger 
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
Do not cut your trip short. If you bought the ticket then take the damn ride. See what the mushrooms have to show you and learn what they have to teach you. If things go in a negative direction remember it's the effects of the drug and change the setting or distract yourself, you can change the direction of your trip if you really want to and know how, it gets easier with experience.
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#11
 2008-11-16, 22:17
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
Id say have a couple of xanaxes handy.
Theyll calm you down and in the worst case knock you out
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#12
 2008-11-16, 22:36
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
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Originally Posted by Bean_Doodle
Id say have a couple of xanaxes handy.
Theyll calm you down and in the worst case knock you out
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There it is.
Benzos will calm you down pretty quick, and it won't be as traumatizing as being mentally ripped out of such a fragile mindset.
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#13
 2008-11-16, 22:46
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Kbasa 
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
see through the drug and realize you aren't going to die etc. I would wait it out before trying to end it by passing out from xanax.
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#14
 2008-11-17, 01:26
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
Let me tell you how I fixed my first bad trip off shrooms.
My friend got a hold of some and we decided to skip school and try them out. I had done them before so I was somewhat experienced in what the effects would be. I consumed about 1.5-2 grams at 11:00am. I had not eaten any breakfast yet.. anyway were sitting there (3 of us. 1 didn't eat any he just smoked some hash with my other friend who had eaten some.) Were at the dudes tiny ass house and it was hella messy and cluttered. i started feeling nauseous so went to the backyard to get some air. I could tell they were starting to kick in as i was looking around at trees and rocks in the yard. I still felt sick but i went inside to try talking to my friends. We sat at the kitchen table, which was cluttered with junk, roaches, guts from swishers, things like that. I tied drinking some ice water to maybe settle my stomach but i just couldn't anymore. i went to the bathroom and started yakin, conveniently just as the peak of the high started kicking in. And let me tell you, the only weakness i have when it comes to doing drugs is nausea and vomiting. Not fun times at all. So after i threw up i didn't feel any better. i went back to my friends and still wanted to throw up. I ended up calling my other good friend to pick me up. We all got in his car and just cruised around, listening to music and talking with the windows rolled down for a nice breeze. After that I felt sooo much better and forgot completely about feeling sick.
Just try to be in a relaxed place with comfortable surroundings and close friends. Maybe smoke some weed before to relax you and then again after you consume them. Another thing to try is take a small, comfortable dosage to begin with, then take more once you're ok with how you feel. Also, don't over think it. just relax and let it kick in don't ask yourself if you think you're feeling it yet. Pretend its just a regular day.
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#15
 2008-11-17, 01:57
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
I just try to focus on something real. Counting my fingers and toes or drawing a picture calms me down. Or just talking to someone about anything but tripping. One time my friend was having a really bad mushroom trip; telling me he felt like his body was falling apart. I tried to get him to draw a picture but he really felt deathly, so I started talking to him about baseball. Sounds stupid, but it got him to think about something other than the bad trip, and he was happy 10 minutes later.
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#16
 2008-11-17, 02:01
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aMv 
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
You don't end a bad trip, you start a good trip.
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#17
 2008-11-17, 02:04
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
Benzos.
Benzos are the alt-F4 of tripping.
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#18
 2008-11-17, 03:08
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
I was on an island off Thailand called Koh Phangan. We were on a beach tripping balls with mushrooms. I saw a guy get slashed by about 6 Thai guys. His back had deep cuts and he layed there unconscious. I just grabbed my mate, and we just got the fuck out of there. We pretty much just ran away. We found a more secluded and relaxed setting, and just enjoyed our trip.
Moral: Its all about the setting.
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#19
 2008-11-17, 04:26
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rtb91 
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
If you want the ghetto option for ending a LSD trip niacin can really help shorten it.
But if you have the resources. Benzos
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#20
 2008-11-17, 05:28
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jamaica0535 
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
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Originally Posted by fat_thighs
I just try to focus on something real. Counting my fingers and toes or drawing a picture calms me down. Or just talking to someone about anything but tripping. One time my friend was having a really bad mushroom trip; telling me he felt like his body was falling apart. I tried to get him to draw a picture but he really felt deathly, so I started talking to him about baseball. Sounds stupid, but it got him to think about something other than the bad trip, and he was happy 10 minutes later.
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this works, the thing about your thought process on psychs is that it can change very quickly, if you put alot of thought into something for a decent amount of time the negative thoughts can be passed by quick enough....
i remember hearing about a method apparently devised by shulgin, take a look at your hand, hold your thumb and index finger a distance apart and try to conceive how much distance is between them.... that surprisingly simple question could bring up alot of other questions. "well its about 6 inches, but what exactly is an inch anyways, maybe a metric measurement would be better, but what is metric anyways, lets try and compare it to something tangible, but what would be a suitable object to measure with" and after you finally figure out something as far as the distance whatever was bothering you might be long gone....
Meta came up with the idea of writting on a sheet of paper in your own hand witting something along the lines of "i am on a *insert drug*, it will all be over soon, i did this and am not going crazy, everything will be fine".... sure someone could tell you that your on it, but if your freaking out and too paranoid to believe them seeing that in your own handwriting can be comforting.
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#21
 2008-11-17, 05:52
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
instead of using benzos to end a bad trip you should just control your bad trip and make it a good trip.
I shroomed last saturday and i kept having horrible trips but i kept reminding myself the happy things and everything kind of balanced out to a pretty good overall trip.
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#22
 2008-11-17, 05:58
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
Seroquel...
Any benzo would just chill you out, unless you took enough of the said benzo to knock you the fuck out.
But with that said, dont be a fucking pussy and just go through it. Some of my most inspiring trips where a bad, gut wrenching 8 hours of fucking hell. You can really learn alot about yourself in that type of mindset
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#23
 2008-11-17, 06:04
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Re: How to end A bad trip?
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Originally Posted by Street_Pharmacist420
Seroquel...
Any benzo would just chill you out, unless you took enough of the said benzo to knock you the fuck out.
But with that said, dont be a fucking pussy and just go through it. Some of my most inspiring trips where a bad, gut wrenching 8 hours of fucking hell. You can really learn alot about yourself in that type of mindset
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hell yeah dude. When i was having a horribly fucked up trip on those shrooms i was just thinking about all the fucked up things about myself and i changed.
that was my first time doing shrooms, they changed my life in a better way like lsd did.
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