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| Network (in)Security Interesting hacks and cracks. Info on firewalls, TCP/IP, encryption, networks, and security. The ins and outs of the phone system, caller services, how things work, what's illegal and what's not, cellular phones, beepers, telephony legislation, the PUC, ISDN, taps, who's listening, and switches. Talking about phones, hacking systems, technical advice, and such is completely LEGAL in the United States -- it's covered by the First Amendment. What's illegal is conspiracy to commit a crime. So if you say something like "Meet me at 2am so we can crack a can" or "I changed my cell phone's number myself" you are criminally liable. Stating "You can crack a can by doing thus-and-so" or "If you wanted to change a cell phone's number, you could do it like so" is perfectly OK. Posting passwords, calling card numbers, or credit card numbers is forbidden on this network. Posting such info will get you booted off the net. |
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#1
 2008-11-15, 23:23
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master_of_puppets 
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TOR and 4chan = banned
So, I use TOR as an endpont cause im nice, and found, after leaving my pc on all day, i am banned from pretty much all the chans. for CP, and "Bitching out people for posting links to government CP trackers"
So heres my question, will the FBI be all nocking on my door?
And I will probably reset my modem to refresh my IP and unblock me.
So, should i be concerned?, and btw imagefap is the one who blocked me, and recorded my IP.
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#2
 2008-11-16, 01:33
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
Yes. Immediately DBAN your hard drive. Make sure there is nothing left. There is no way you will be able to escape as the FBI have probably been tracking you and you know how the government is so hardcore about busting pedos. You are screwed.
Hope you learned your lesson about the chans.
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#3
 2008-11-16, 02:03
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master_of_puppets 
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
because the free asoftware foundation wont back me?
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#4
 2008-11-17, 08:05
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xarf 
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
So you downloaded CP and got caught? Nice. Enjoy your FBI.
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#5
 2008-11-17, 08:11
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Utah: Mountains, Mormons, Meth
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
This thread could get interesting.
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#6
 2008-11-17, 11:22
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With you. Behind a lead pipe.
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
The gov monitors Tor for kind of shit,
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#7
 2008-11-17, 14:17
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
You're fine.
Your little equation "TOR + 4chan = banned", is true for everyone. All the proxies TOR uses have been permabanned. This is to stop people signing in to tor, then spamming the boards with child pornography.
If I open up TOR now, and try to browse /b/ then I will get the same banned message as you.
Your details wont have been forwarded to any authorities, however it does serve as a lesson to you. If a bunch of /b/tards can figure out the proxy list the 'uber anonymous' Tor uses, and add them to a ban list, then what do you think the government can do?
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#8
 2008-11-17, 17:50
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padam 
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
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Originally Posted by SLice_760
Yes. Immediately DBAN your hard drive. Make sure there is nothing left. There is no way you will be able to escape as the FBI have probably been tracking you and you know how the government is so hardcore about busting pedos. You are screwed.
Hope you learned your lesson about the chans.
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I realize this was an attempt (albeit unsuccessful) at being funny, but I think someone needs to remind you that memory != hard drive.
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#9
 2008-11-26, 03:08
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
Actually, I know 4chan doesn't ban tor routers (from the list). They just ban the ones the find posting CP.
The feds won't do anything to you. For one, they wouldn't even bother with that, and second, they'll know that you were operating an open proxy during that time. It'll be trivial to find out (googling your IP would do the trick, probably). You aren't liable for any content that goes through your tor node, and yeah, if you got into trouble, the EFF and probably the ACLU would have your back in a heartbeat.
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#10
 2008-11-26, 03:54
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
Actually, I know 4chan doesn't ban tor routers (from the list). They just ban the ones the find posting CP.
The feds won't do anything to you. For one, they wouldn't even bother with that, and second, they'll know that you were operating an open proxy during that time. It'll be trivial to find out (googling your IP would do the trick, probably). You aren't liable for any content that goes through your tor node, and yeah, if you got into trouble, the EFF and probably the ACLU would have your back (lol anal rape) in a heartbeat.
Fixed. And yeah, you're fine. Nothing to worry about.
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#11
 2008-11-26, 07:59
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
the EFF and probably the ACLU would have your back in a heartbeat.
just to reemphasize this, I've never heard of a tor user being sued for CP and I'm a torizen myself.
You don't have anything to worry about, plus, when you're done being an exit node, you'll probably be able to e-mail moot, p4ch3c0, and kirtaner to get unbanned.
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#12
 2008-11-26, 15:18
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
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Originally Posted by Angry Blue Bird of Death
The gov monitors Tor for kind of shit,
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Tor is a governmental project to begin with you ignoramus.
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#13
 2008-11-27, 01:54
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
I would fix your information if I was you, tor is no longer a "government project" it was developed by a Naval research center like, years ago.
"The Tor software is now developed by the Tor Project, which since December 2006 is a 501(c)(3) research/education non-profit organization based in the United States of America"
The government has no right to watch Tor connections just because they developed it, especially if those might be international connections (like mine) they risk breaking a lot of laws and it's something they would not do. At the most, you have to worry about Tor exit nodes being sniffed by assholes. Either way, people with CP or illegal content rarely get caught if they're using Tor- I think there is one case of this happening almost worldwide.
Um, either way just don't download CP.
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#14
 2008-11-27, 03:41
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
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Originally Posted by kenshiro_kid
I would fix your information if I was you, tor is no longer a "government project" it was developed by a Naval research center like, years ago.
"The Tor software is now developed by the Tor Project, which since December 2006 is a 501(c)(3) research/education non-profit organization based in the United States of America"
The government has no right to watch Tor connections just because they developed it, especially if those might be international connections (like mine) they risk breaking a lot of laws and it's something they would not do. At the most, you have to worry about Tor exit nodes being sniffed by assholes. Either way, people with CP or illegal content rarely get caught if they're using Tor- I think there is one case of this happening almost worldwide.
Um, either way just don't download CP.
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Actually, I don't think there are any cases of it happening worldwide. Certainly not with Tor as the attack vector.
It's laughable to claim that the US government "just wouldn't do something like that". They wiretap everything they can get their hands on, just the the EU and China. Of course they monitor Tor. They just can't crack it yet.
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#15
 2008-12-07, 02:51
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dagothnonlik 
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
always have a handgun ready if you see chris hanson.
you know what to do if he comes by......eh?eh?eh?
but in all seriousness,we should kick your ass for going to chan.or not even using a proxy =/
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#16
 2008-12-07, 03:02
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
urm. maybe you shouldnt be ing illegal?
Especially, on the net?
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#17
 2008-12-07, 03:06
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
pics or gtfo 
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#18
 2008-12-07, 03:06
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In centrul galaxiei
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
Am I the only one that goes to 4chan every once in a while and doesn't look at CP? CP's disgusting. Anyway, I wouldn't think so. The government's got a lot of heavy shit to deal with these days. But, always keep an eye out. Read the text file about how to find out if they are on your tail.
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#19
 2008-12-08, 00:51
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Warsie 
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
So, I use TOR as an endpont cause im nice, and found, after leaving my pc on all day, i am banned from pretty much all the chans.
all of them? Holy shit. all the ones on http://www.2ch.us/ ? click them to see.
for CP, and "Bitching out people for posting links to government CP trackers"
lulz
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/FBI_redirection
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/The_Great_ImageFap_Troll
So heres my question, will the FBI be all nocking on my door?
no
And I will probably reset my modem to refresh my IP and unblock me.
as the chanspeak term is, DO IT FAGGOT
So, should i be concerned?, and btw imagefap is the one who blocked me, and recorded my IP.
no you shouldn't. regarding the imagefap thing, I've gotten it and so have a LOT of people. Unless there'e a warrant or some shit you won't get your IP posted. again see
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/FBI_redirection
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/The_Great_ImageFap_Troll
just to reemphasize this, I've never heard of a tor user being sued for CP and I'm a torizen myself.
the Germans have arrested people because a bomb threat was sent through the Tor node though. Also they had some people V& for CP or some shit. though Germany has a shitload of Tor nodes anyway..
The gov monitors Tor for kind of shit,
they're doing a damn shitty job given TorPedo and PedoBay are still up. Arguably some nodes are PartyV& but there's a list of 'suspicious nodes'
Actually, I know 4chan doesn't ban tor routers (from the list). They just ban the ones the find posting CP.
unfortuntely that ends up being most tor nodes. most of the times I browse 4chan when on tor I get B& for CP because most of the nodes and proxies have been blocked....one of the disadvantages of running a node. though I have dynamic IP so ;)
You aren't liable for any content that goes through your tor node
Uh....what? hosting those nodes at least breaks some ISPs' TOS, but isn't there a law broken?
and yeah, if you got into trouble, the EFF and probably the ACLU would have your back in a heartbeat.
I suspected that.
The government has no right to watch Tor connections just because they developed it, especially if those might be international connections (like mine) they risk breaking a lot of laws and it's something they would not do.
wouldn't surprise me if there's INTERPOL or some shit like that. The UN wanted to regulate the internet recently. US Government pulls some bullshit laws, see Gary McKinnon and those Sex Tourist laws..wouldn't surprise me/
Um, either way just don't download CP.
coming from you :p;):D
It's laughable to claim that the US government "just wouldn't do something like that". They wiretap everything they can get their hands on, just the the EU and China. Of course they monitor Tor. They just can't crack it yet.
that past example of moralfaggotry pulling the DDoS that ended up taking down the entire network means they could shut it down...arguably illegal but eh/
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#20
 2008-12-08, 01:10
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Warsie 
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
Am I the only one that goes to 4chan every once in a while and doesn't look at CP? CP's disgusting.
yes. I rarely see CP now. Last year it was different. Moralfags kicked out all the old-skool anons out or Moot banned them all away to lesser chans. I don't think people even tell 4chan's /b/ when they spam a smaller chan with CP and post it on 4chan
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#21
 2008-12-08, 10:39
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Eldorhan 
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
4chan's CP problems began just after ORLY made his ridiculous "piece" about them.
Oddly enough Fox noise seems capable of triggering ISP-level FBI wiretapping.
From what was said at the time some admins & posters got in REALLY hot water, which triggered the change in "policy".
Making fun of the partyvan is fun; having the 6 guys who live in it blowing up your door and charging with mp5s in your house because you're deemed "child rapist" by a corrupt and illegitimate authority... eeeeerrr... probably isn't...
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#22
 2008-12-08, 13:54
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The fiber optic lines
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Re: TOR and 4chan = banned
Enough!
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