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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-11-13, 04:41
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4 hour flashback.
Well, it's been almost two weeks since I dropped for the first time, and something disheartening has happened.
From 12:30pm to 1:00am last night I had a full on flashback, which I thought was kind of cool.
But since about 4:15pm (it's 8:41pm) I've been having another one.
The difference from when I tripped is simply that my pupils will un-dilate if I shine a light in them, and no audio hallucinations. There are no visual hallucinations, just distortions.
If I stare at the wall, it moves and distorts, morphing and "breathing".
If I stare at my face in the mirror for more than five or ten seconds, my face starts to morph and distort.
My pupils are fully dilated, and only un-dilate when I shine a strong flashlight in them.
Basically like my trip minus hearing laughing elves and unnaturally moving trees.
According to google searches, they usually only last moments/minutes.
So far, it's been over 4 hours...//
Shit.
Wasn't experiencing any of this prior to the flashback...
Have any of you experienced anything like this?
EDIT: What I'm fishing for: is there a chance that this could just be a REALLY long flashback, or is it hppd?
I knew that hppd was a risk, but I still didn't think I would get it...
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#2
 2008-11-13, 04:43
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SSFC 
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hppd

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#3
 2008-11-13, 04:45
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hppd
Dammit.
I considered that, but was hoping for the better :( .
God, it's been 12 days, and NOW I get it?
Is there a chance that this could just be a flashback?
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#4
 2008-11-13, 04:50
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Ed Lister 
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Did you do some yoga recently?
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#5
 2008-11-13, 04:51
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
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Originally Posted by Ed Lister
Did you do some yoga recently?
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No...?
Flashbacks aren't from LSD being stored in the body.
At least that's what I read.
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#6
 2008-11-13, 04:54
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Ed Lister 
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
No...?
Flashbacks aren't from LSD being stored in the body.
At least that's what I read.
Damn.
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#7
 2008-11-13, 04:56
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Damn.
So, relevant to my question, do you, Sir Ed, think that there's a chance that this could be a flashback?
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#8
 2008-11-13, 05:01
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
That's strange I've never heard of that happening to anyone. Did you have a bad trip when you tripped? That could have something to do with it?
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#9
 2008-11-13, 05:01
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Ed Lister 
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
So, relevant to my question, do you, Sir Ed, think that there's a chance that this could be a flashback?
I'm not too sure about this idea of a flashback... I think though, you are having some mild visual disturbances related to your consumption of LSD. Wait and see what happens.
In the meantime, read this...
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_info3.shtml
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#10
 2008-11-13, 05:01
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
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Originally Posted by Ed Lister
Did you do some yoga recently?
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Lawl. I trip hardcore every day I do yoga. Yanno, all that spine stretching ;)
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#11
 2008-11-13, 05:14
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
I'm not too sure about this idea of a flashback... I think though, you are having some mild visual disturbances related to your consumption of LSD. Wait and see what happens.
In the meantime, read this...
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_info3.shtml
That's strange I've never heard of that happening to anyone. Did you have a bad trip when you tripped? That could have something to do with it?
@ Ed: I did not have these disturbances until today; 12 days since I dropped.
I have read that, but thanks.
@Voodoo: No, it was a great trip, but I was mostly confined in one place, and probably looked in the mirror too much.
It was only 2 blotters; not a super strong dose...
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#12
 2008-11-13, 05:29
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
I would like to own your soul! no really, would you consider selling it for a blank pieces of paper? you can rewrite your own life story ! think of the possibilities 
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#13
 2008-11-13, 05:30
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
i would like to own your soul! No really, would you consider selling it for a blank pieces of paper? You can rewrite your own life story ! Think of the possibilities
gtfo totse now
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2162788
Hai guyz my teeths hurts what does I do??!!1
>: (
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#14
 2008-11-13, 05:37
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Whatever, I'll just live with it.
Hopefully it won't progress into something worse.
Damn it would suck if I triggered schizophrenia.
Probably not.
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#15
 2008-11-13, 05:38
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Aces N 8S 
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Since this is happening so close to when you dosed my bet is that they will decrease in severity and frequency as time passes. Thats what happened to me.
Can you give us a better discription of how intense they are? Can you pull yourself out of it if you try? Does it impair your ability to drive or function normally?
What would you rate the intensity on a scale of 0-10, 0 being sober and 10 being the intensity of the trip while you were on acid?
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#16
 2008-11-13, 05:42
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Damn it would suck if I triggered schizophrenia.
lol, man..
werent you the one who was gonna "quit totse" till you got smarter?
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#17
 2008-11-13, 05:48
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Street_Pharmacist420 
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Wasn't experiencing any of this prior to the flashback...
Have any of you experienced anything like this?
EDIT: What I'm fishing for: is there a chance that this could just be a REALLY long flashback, or is it hppd?
I knew that hppd was a risk, but I still didn't think I would get it...
You were not in any way shape or form prepared to take lsd in the first place; I've never ever heard somebody have some many complaints after a trip then you do. It is not a flashback and it probaly is not HPPD, HPPD most of the time takes heavily psychdelic use after numerous years to manifest, not something that happens a couple days after your first acid trip. My best guess is that you the lsd trigger some type of sensory response or a pscylogical disorder that has been dormant and may not of shown itself for a good amount of time. Also, Im willing to bet that your not seeing all that you think you are seeing, meaning that since you think that your having visual distortions you seem to think you have them alot more then you really do (Your fooling your mind, placebo effect). Give it time, if it still going on long after this and you start to have anxiety, panic attacks or anything related to that then you know that you just fucked yourself, dont just go screaming HPPD yet
Edit: Just because you just said that you normally have a 'screwy mind' is not really good news; that could be a dormant psylogical problem, as I will put more emphasis on it. An lsd trip was not what you needed kid
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#18
 2008-11-13, 05:49
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
lol, man..
werent you the one who was gonna "quit totse" till you got smarter?
Haha yeah I thought so too. 
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#19
 2008-11-13, 05:52
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Haha yeah I thought so too.
:(
Spent three days doing nothing but research.
Thought that was enough.
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#20
 2008-11-13, 05:54
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
you were not in any way shape or form prepared to take lsd in the first place; i've never ever heard somebody have some many complaints after a trip then you do. It is not a flashback and it probaly is not hppd, hppd most of the time takes heavily psychdelic use after numerous years to manifest, not something that happens a couple days after your first acid trip. My best guess is that you the lsd trigger some type of sensory response or a pscylogical disorder that has been dormant and may not of shown itself for a good amount of time. Also, im willing to bet that your not seeing all that you think you are seeing, meaning that since you think that your having visual distortions you seem to think you have them alot more then you really do (your fooling your mind, placebo effect). Give it time, if it still going on long after this and you start to have anxiety, panic attacks or anything related to that then you know that you just fucked yourself, dont just go screaming hppd yet
edit: Just because you just said that you normally have a 'screwy mind' is not really good news; that could be a dormant psylogical problem, as i will put more emphasis on it. An lsd trip was not what you needed kid
:( :(:(:(:(
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#21
 2008-11-13, 05:58
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
You were not in any way shape or form prepared to take lsd in the first place; I've never ever heard somebody have some many complaints after a trip then you do. It is not a flashback and it probaly is not HPPD, HPPD most of the time takes heavily psychdelic use after numerous years to manifest, not something that happens a couple days after your first acid trip. My best guess is that you the lsd trigger some type of sensory response or a pscylogical disorder that has been dormant and may not of shown itself for a good amount of time. Also, Im willing to bet that your not seeing all that you think you are seeing, meaning that since you think that your having visual distortions you seem to think you have them alot more then you really do (Your fooling your mind, placebo effect). Give it time, if it still going on long after this and you start to have anxiety, panic attacks or anything related to that then you know that you just fucked yourself, dont just go screaming HPPD yet
Edit: Just because you just said that you normally have a 'screwy mind' is not really good news; that could be a dormant psylogical problem, as I will put more emphasis on it. An lsd trip was not what you needed kid
Exactly.
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#22
 2008-11-13, 05:58
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Guess drugs aren't my thing.
Oh well.
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#23
 2008-11-13, 06:11
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
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Originally Posted by GD!
Guess drugs aren't my thing.
Oh well.
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Don't be discouraged you'll figure shit out. It's probably better that you get your advice from here anyway instead of some ignorant shits you go to school with or something.
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#24
 2008-11-13, 06:15
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Don't be discouraged you'll figure shit out. It's probably better that you get your advice from here anyway instead of some ignorant shits you go to school with or something.
Thanks.
All I got from people I know was either some form of
"BENZOS!!!!!!11!"
or
"Oh dude, it was just really good acid, and you're still coming down".

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#25
 2008-11-13, 06:24
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Thanks.
All I got from people I know was either some form of
"BENZOS!!!!!!11!"
or
"Oh dude, it was just really good acid, and you're still coming down".
Haha yes that's exactly what I'm talking about. Stick around here because it sounds like your life depends on it.
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#26
 2008-11-13, 06:29
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Haha yes that's exactly what I'm talking about. Stick around here because it sounds like your life depends on it.
Indeed my good Sir. :p
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#27
 2008-11-13, 06:34
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Street_Pharmacist420 
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Exactly.
Fuck you, get your own response shithead instead of copying and pasting mine.
And Gd!, I dont know why you would just jump into acid. Considering you said your only prior experience was an opiate( which I clearly remember was vicodin); you should of atleast had a couple months of some experience under your belt, even marijuana man. Why you jumped into lsd I really dont understand.
And take into consideration im not a doctor, professional counselor, or psycologist; I am judding what you say from what you posted and from years of experience and a huge interest in pharmecology and pscylogy. If this continues kid I would recommend a professional
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#28
 2008-11-13, 06:43
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Fuck you, get your own response shithead instead of copying and pasting mine.
And Gd!, I dont know why you would just jump into acid. Considering you said your only prior experience was an opiate( which I clearly remember was vicodin); you should of atleast had a couple months of some experience under your belt, even marijuana man. Why you jumped into lsd I really dont understand.
And take into consideration im not a doctor, professional counselor, or psycologist; I am judding what you say from what you posted and from years of experience and a huge interest in pharmecology and pscylogy. If this continues kid I would recommend a professional
Ok, then I'll just stop experimenting.
It's not that hard to do.
Thanks.
I don't need a fucking shrink, I'll just stick to other activities.
I "jumped in" to acid because I'm pretty into things like Lucid Dreaming, OBE's, ect. and I wanted to go a step further into my psyche.
So I thought it would just be an unusual, interesting and potentially introspective experience.
I researched the affects and risks.
It was amazing.
Then I had a fucking four (now 6) hour flashback.
So I asked totse.
I didn't try pot because, to me, it didn't sound like much.
The trip was great, revealing, deep and fun.
It's the after affects that I don't like.
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#29
 2008-11-13, 07:57
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Aces N 8S 
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Actually you said you were gonna leave for a few months. Ya got some discipline dont cha son?
Guess drugs aren't my thing.
Oh well.
You probably would be better off if you never touched a drug again. I would reccomend never doing any drug besides alcohol and weed. (Its funny that everyone who does other drugs said that when they started.) But if you are going to do harder drugs, put at least a week's research into any one that you do.
Voodoo is right, you're better off learning about drugs on totse than from kids at school, or even a lot ov other internet forums. Whencommented in your last thread (that made you decide to "leave") I only meant that you shouldn't post so much dumb shit, but that instead, you should just read more threads. Absorb the knowledge, learn which posters know their shit.
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#30
 2008-11-13, 08:01
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Actually you said you were gonna leave for a few months. Ya got some discipline dont cha son?
You probably would be better off if you never touched a drug again. I would reccomend never doing any drug besides alcohol and weed. (Its funny that everyone who does other drugs said that when they started.) But if you are going to do harder drugs, put at least a week's research into any one that you do.
Voodoo is right, you're better off learning about drugs on totse than from kids at school, or even a lot ov other internet forums. Whencommented in your last thread (that made you decide to "leave") I only meant that you shouldn't post so much dumb shit, but that instead, you should just read more threads. Absorb the knowledge, learn which posters know their shit.
aight thanks
I said I was leaving till I thought I was read up enough to return, so I spent 3-4 days reading up, and I thought I was fine, which I wasn't.
I'm an un-weighted 4.0 student, am on the football team and a hockey team.
I think that qualifies as discipline.
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#31
 2008-11-13, 09:37
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
If I stare at the wall, it moves and distorts, morphing and "breathing".
You are aware that this happens to people who haven't tripped if they just stare at shit waaaay too long, right???
My pupils are fully dilated, and only un-dilate when I shine a strong flashlight in them.
That's definately unusual; not that many hallucinogens cause pupillary dilation, oddly enough, and those that do seldom un-dilate in response to stimuli. Furthermore, most people with HPPD don't have pupillary dilation.
Are you sure you aren't just placebowned? Can you give us video of your pupils in various lighting conditions?
inb4'bunkedwithdatura'...
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#32
 2008-11-13, 09:38
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
I'm an un-weighted 4.0 student, am on the football team and a hockey team.
I think that qualifies as discipline.
Don't confuse academic success with discipline kid. Anyway, as said you are probably fooling yourself more than anything because you are worried about it. I mean really what's with all these kids these days that take one dose of acid and then think they have HPPD or flashbacks? The very fact that you are able to read these forums means that even if, and it's a big fucking if, what you are worried about is caused by the acid it isn't that bad(ever try to read while actually tripping?).
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#33
 2008-11-13, 09:46
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
meh shit happens...
Unlike most who start to mildly hallucinate after being awake for much longer periods of time but its been about 22 hours since i have slept and im getting mild tracer effects. This used to not happen, but then again i used to not take LSD...
Acid flashbacks are strange, I wouldnt call what i am having now a flashback just fucked up vision from not sleeping and maybe the stress this sort of thing puts on the mind. But i seem to have 1 recognizable trigger for acid flashbacks, there is a campground i sometimes go up to with my father, and at night everything has trails. Its only in this location, everywhere else we have camped i do not get this, and the campground has nothing to do with any of my trips. most ive done there is smoke some bud.... but they always go away after a good nights sleep, and the sun comes up. try taking a nap and sleeping it off...
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#34
 2008-11-14, 21:32
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
holy shit, i think i have hhpd. interesting....treatment for it is xanax.....how do i get diagnosed?
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#35
 2008-11-14, 21:43
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
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Originally Posted by Smelly Button Ears
holy shit, i think i have hhpd. interesting....treatment for it is xanax.....how do i get diagnosed?
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I would much rather have HPPD than live on benzos all the time.
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#36
 2008-11-14, 23:30
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
I would much rather have HPPD than live on benzos all the time.
i think hes saying he could live with the condition and just get free xanax
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#37
 2008-11-15, 05:13
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Street_Pharmacist420 
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
I would much rather have HPPD than live on benzos all the time.
Ain't that the truth
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#38
 2008-11-15, 06:09
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Fuck you, get your own response shithead instead of copying and pasting mine.
Chill mate, I was agreeing with you, you said it much better than I could have though so I just quoted you.
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#39
 2008-11-15, 19:14
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Street_Pharmacist420 
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
Chill mate, I was agreeing with you, you said it much better than I could have though so I just quoted you.
My apologies then, benzos fuck with the mood bad man; dont take it personal
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#40
 2008-11-15, 19:35
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Re: 4 hour flashback.
i think hes saying he could live with the condition and just get free xanax
this..
mad profit
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