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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-11-11, 03:24
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Secret containers and carrying...
How secure would you feel if you had an illegal substance in your possession and was storing it in one of those secret containers, the hollow books /cans that feel real weight? I was also thinking another option would be to open a bag of chips and superglue it back shut, I just don't know how effective taking these precautions would be if you were ever searched?
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#2
 2008-11-11, 03:27
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
If they use a dog, and they're seriously suspicious, then you're fucked no matter what. There's gotta be legitimate air-tight ones out there somewhere though.
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#3
 2008-11-11, 03:27
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
Books would probably be flipped through, but the chip bag idea might work, depending on whether or not there's dogs.
Then you're fucked.
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#4
 2008-11-11, 03:32
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
I don't think the chip bag thing'll work. I'm sure the smell will still get out, plus, residue on the outside of the bag. Your pretty much only hope would be vacuum sealing or whatever that's called. I read it in another thread like a couple days ago. You have to vacuum seal it once, then go somewhere else where there are no drugs and make sure everythings all clean and shit and vacuum seal again, then probably wash the FUCK out of it. Real depends on what your use for it is though, you gotta be more specific.
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#5
 2008-11-11, 03:40
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
You can shave off the top 5mm from a film container & the place it inside another for a secret hiding place.
(in between the containers)
For the chip bag, get a full bag & slide it into another empty bag the same sort, glue it where the top seal is for a double lined chip bag.
(In between the bags)
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#6
 2008-11-11, 03:50
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
some guy did that to get chronic into rothbury
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#7
 2008-11-11, 03:59
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
on the rare occasion i had to get some LSD to someone i would have it in a box of cigarettes.... but not just tossing it in, i smoke marlboro no. 27s but im sure at least all marlboros use the same box design if not just about every brand of cigarettes....
if you look at where the cellophane stops, right where the top closes down on to the outer card board is not really connected by very much to the inner cardboard... so you seperate these 2, put the hits inside and glue it back shut... putting the cellophane back on the box would probably keep it looking more normal but if you do it right its very hard to tell there is a little bit of paper wrapped in tin foil in between the card board and the inner foil, hell throw a few cigarettes in their, i doubt i cop would ever do more than look in the box, much less rip the box completly all to fuck to see if there was anything in there....
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#8
 2008-11-11, 04:05
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
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Originally Posted by jamaica0535
on the rare occasion i had to get some LSD to someone i would have it in a box of cigarettes.... but not just tossing it in, i smoke marlboro no. 27s but im sure at least all marlboros use the same box design if not just about every brand of cigarettes....
if you look at where the cellophane stops, right where the top closes down on to the outer card board is not really connected by very much to the inner cardboard... so you seperate these 2, put the hits inside and glue it back shut... putting the cellophane back on the box would probably keep it looking more normal but if you do it right its very hard to tell there is a little bit of paper wrapped in tin foil in between the card board and the inner foil, hell throw a few cigarettes in their, i doubt i cop would ever do more than look in the box, much less rip the box completly all to fuck to see if there was anything in there....
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Hey that's good man I'll remember that. I always just put my hits in between the cellophane and the box just because they seemed safe there safe but what you said is even better.
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#9
 2008-11-11, 04:14
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
Hey that's good man I'll remember that. I always just put my hits in between the cellophane and the box just because they seemed safe there safe but what you said is even better.
ive had friends compliment me on the stealthiness of it... wouldn't be so great with people who didn't trust you because it is kind of hard to see the product without ripping apart the container but if they trust you or if its just for you to carry them in it works well... if you try to feel inside of the box you can feel them but its hard to, and like i said you could just shove a bunch of cigarettes into it to discourage them even more... i would get pissed if a cop dumped out all my cigarettes and ripped the box apart....
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#10
 2008-11-11, 05:18
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
i smoke marlboro no. 27s
those are for little girls:p
but that is a great idea for hiding doses.
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#11
 2008-11-11, 05:38
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
was storing it in one of those secret containers, the hollow books /cans that feel real weight
ask michael vick lol
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#12
 2008-11-11, 06:15
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
Those secret stash spots don't work. If the cops ever search your dorm/home/whatever that's one of the first places they look. They know all the tricks and will try unscrewing all your "soda" and "aerosol" cans. Don't use these if you're serious about hiding your drugs.
Trust me.
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#13
 2008-11-11, 07:41
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
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Originally Posted by fretbuzz
Those secret stash spots don't work. If the cops ever search your dorm/home/whatever that's one of the first places they look. They know all the tricks and will try unscrewing all your "soda" and "aerosol" cans. Don't use these if you're serious about hiding your drugs.
Trust me.
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Thats good to know, I wasn't sure how effective those would be during an actual search...my friend who doesn't deal just got his dorm searched by local police because they heard he was a dealer, they pay people to rat at my school so I was trying to come up with a way to feel safer about having things in my possession.
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#14
 2008-11-11, 09:11
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
also depends on where you're going. Airport security? pack of cigs in your pocket that you just leave there you can get weed into govt buildings...like courthouses. also depends on whether they have dogs or metal detectors or those air chemical sensor things that some airports have, and another thing a lot of airports (like MIA in Miami) ive carried a 4" serrated saw blade and they didnt notice or care, not sure which but in Baltimore they arrested me for it.
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#15
 2008-11-11, 09:57
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i dont know what the laws and specifics are in your state regarding civil rights and illegal search and seizures but you do have the right to decline such a violation of privacy until they bring you a warrant be it at home in the car or among your personal possessions. but then again cops will do what they want usually so if you have reason to be on increased security threat level then proceed accordingly.
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#16
 2008-11-11, 11:16
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
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Originally Posted by fretbuzz
Those secret stash spots don't work. If the cops ever search your dorm/home/whatever that's one of the first places they look. They know all the tricks and will try unscrewing all your "soda" and "aerosol" cans. Don't use these if you're serious about hiding your drugs.
Trust me.
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Not all cops know about them. I've had friends get away clean because of those hiding cans, especially if you keep it in the fridge with a bunch of real ones. It all depends of whether or not the cops searching your house are aware of them and are thinking about them at the time.
If, for example, they just got a memo about ned smuggling devices at roll call that morning then they'll probably check the unopened Dr. Pepper sitting in your cup holder. But if the memo was 6 months ago and they havnt seen one of those can safes since then, then they'll probably have forgotten about it by then.
In any case you're better off with one than with your shit just in a bag or in your pocket. Plus, once you do get to court the judge could be inclined to see a line between opening the can and having your shit sitting in your pocket as the difference between probable cause and needing a search warrant.
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#17
 2008-11-11, 16:53
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No man, my friend got busted in college last year for dealing. Cops went undercover as plumbers and said they just needed to do routine maintenance. Once he opened his dorm room door they pushed themselves in, showed their badges/ID and then proceeded to search his room. He had some of those stash cans and he said that was the first place the cops even bothered looking. Basically they tore his room apart and found benzos, 2 oz weed, $700, and a fake ID.
If the pigs want blood, you don't have much of a chance at hiding your shit. I mean they seized and tore his car apart to, ripping off door panels and everything. They are trained professionals, it's their job. They're trained to find drugs. They aren't going to skip over something that might bust someone they deem to be a worthless asshole.
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#18
 2008-11-11, 16:58
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
those are for little girls:p
cigarettes are for idiots. they do a good job cleaning up the gene pool.
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#19
 2008-11-11, 17:56
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I know one headshop that sells these 2 liter bottles of coke or pepsi or whatever kind of beverage, it actually has liquid in it and it unscrewes in the middle, and you can fit about a qp of bud in there.
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#20
 2008-11-11, 19:56
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
Yeah, those secret containers are becoming too well known and common. I purchased an Arizona can awhile ago, and it has helped me in the past, although I don't use it so much anymore.
Not all cops known about the stash cans, or at least think to look in them sometimes, but in truth it all depends. A friend and I got searched along with his car. The Arizona was sitting in the front cup holder as they searched the car, and it didn't get touched. Meanwhile, I was getting searched with my piece and some bud shoved down the front of my pants; such bullshit.
A friend of mine wanted to bring some herb into a venue where they wouldn't let you bring in open containers of any kind, or bags. He spliced open the bottom wrapper of a cigarette box with an Exacto and proceeded to fill the cigs with bud. He then re-glued the bottom wrapper and they let him in fine with a seemingly sealed box.
To answer your original question of "How secure I feel" about using one; I would now say that I usually get the sense that I have a 50/50 chance of getting by. Although it depends on the overall security of where you are trying to get by with it...
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#21
 2008-11-11, 19:56
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use google. there are vacuum sealable-stash bags out there, made specifically so k9's cant smell through em
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#22
 2008-11-11, 20:03
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
These jars are supposed to be really good. Just hide them in something else. Supposedly odor-less, airtight etc.
http://www.420jars.com/
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#23
 2008-11-11, 20:20
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DONT WORRY ABOUT IT.
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
What a bunch of amateurs?!
How many things do you have in your dorm room that have compartments and or come apart with a few screws? Hide shit up in there..and if ur desperate, up in your freezer in ice cream containers/frozen dinners(assuming whatever ur hiding can stand the cold).
Have a quick pop up drive or something on your computer/labtop. Just remember shit they are not going to take the time to look at twice....dont hide shit around your toilers/cabinents/air ducts, vents etc.
If your desperate your find betters places
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#24
 2008-11-11, 21:20
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
buy a large jar of peanut butter
scoop out a hold in the middle, put double vacuum sealed sack in there and then replace butter and make a sammich.
for full effect: take a grocery store plastic bag, a cooler, some jelly, and a loaf of bread. put all said things together in baggy, tie knot, make sure to include butterknife.....then place bag in cooler and leave in fridge.
its for lunch at work ;)
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#25
 2008-11-11, 21:36
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
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Originally Posted by charlie k-pin
use google. there are vacuum sealable-stash bags out there, made specifically so k9's cant smell through em
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those are just a rip off, everything is porous so the smell will seep through eventually, you should watch never get busted, he explains all of it.
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#26
 2008-11-11, 21:39
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I hide shit inside electrical outlets.
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#27
 2008-11-12, 00:01
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
Fucking Christ...you poor guys in America have to worry about getting busted so bad, Id be extra cautious too!...I live in Ontario cops here more or less dont give much of a shit, but my dad told me back in the 90s he was travelling to the Yukon for work for a few months, he mentioned something about taking a thermos and stuffing 2 ozs (presumably vacuum sealed in the first place) into it, he put some kind of cover on top then sealed it up with wax and superglued the cap on on top of the wax seal...You really dont need to take that many precautions up here normally, but apparently will work well if you need to smuggle some personals somewhere youre going for a lengthy amount of time.
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#28
 2008-11-12, 00:33
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
hollow out a 9 volt battery and put it in some shitty diskman or something
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#29
 2008-11-12, 03:07
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Originally Posted by rtb91
hollow out a 9 volt battery and put it in some shitty diskman or something
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That way you can store.. about a gram, if you're lucky. nice.
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#30
 2008-11-12, 04:13
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
Most parents don't know about the stash can's but if your really desperate, especially from police I would suggest an electrical socket diversion safe. That's what I use and its perfect. http://stores.selectessentialbasics.com/catalog/CCCwallsocketsafe_thumb.jpg
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#31
 2008-11-12, 18:25
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Well from first hand experience the soda can hidden container worked. The local police heard I am apparently one of the top three 'go to' guys on campus and busted into my room last night. They tore my room apart, they searched in every pocket of every clothing article, ripped apart drawers, threw my notebooks across the room so there is shit everywehere and damaged some property.
The impression I got was that they fully expected to find weight on me. Unfourtunately I just split half a g and had thrown it in a drawer (planning to get back and smoke it later) so all they found was half a g, a scale and 13 cigarette bags (which they never acknowledged or asked me why I would have them). I had a lot of pills in the soda can, they opened my fridge saw the can and didn't think twice. I figured they were dissapointed they didn't find weight but they were threateing to arrest me for the half g and went through the we want you to rat someone out routine so I gave them a name and room of someone I know doesn't carry/smoke or anything and they said in exchange they would flush the gram and forget all about it. I figure this way they can't do anything at all because the only evidence they had they intentionally destroyed, I hope I'm right about that.
The nature of the search and their attitude suggested to me that they figured they caught me when I was dry and are going to watch and or search me in the future.. really didn't see this coming.
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#32
 2008-11-12, 19:09
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Your medicine cabinet
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ask michael vick lol
I lol'ed. Didn't he have his shit inside the top of a water bottle cap or something?
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#33
 2008-11-12, 20:16
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
This has worked for me and I doubt the po po's will wanna touch it. Buy some stick deodorant. Twist it so that the stick comes out all the way, if you need to, pull it out. Once you do that, there's either a little thing that holds the actual deodorant stick that you can easily take out with a knife or a pair of scissors, and then once you have that out of the way, you have a hollow, empty stick of deodorant with nothing in it.
You can fit one or two good baggies in there, put the stick of deodorant back on and push it down (you may want to cut off some of the bottom if you have trouble pushing it down), and there you go. You don't have to worry about smell because the deodorant stick covers it and the pigs will be less likely to touch it, especially if you throw some pubes on the top of the stick for good measure.
Anytime you wanna access your special herbs, just open it and turn it upside down and shake it a little and the stick should slide right out, or you can try and pull it out with your fingers.
Don't use a soda can or a hollow book, that shit is too well-known and you have to buy them too. The only secure way to make sure the cops don't find anything is to get rid of it or give it to a friend to hold.
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#34
 2008-11-12, 22:05
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
best secret hiding place: my asshole
/thread
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#35
 2008-11-13, 00:11
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Originally Posted by ReclaimPublicSpace
This has worked for me and I doubt the po po's will wanna touch it. Buy some stick deodorant. Twist it so that the stick comes out all the way, if you need to, pull it out. Once you do that, there's either a little thing that holds the actual deodorant stick that you can easily take out with a knife or a pair of scissors, and then once you have that out of the way, you have a hollow, empty stick of deodorant with nothing in it.
You can fit one or two good baggies in there, put the stick of deodorant back on and push it down (you may want to cut off some of the bottom if you have trouble pushing it down), and there you go. You don't have to worry about smell because the deodorant stick covers it and the pigs will be less likely to touch it, especially if you throw some pubes on the top of the stick for good measure.
Anytime you wanna access your special herbs, just open it and turn it upside down and shake it a little and the stick should slide right out, or you can try and pull it out with your fingers.
Don't use a soda can or a hollow book, that shit is too well-known and you have to buy them too. The only secure way to make sure the cops don't find anything is to get rid of it or give it to a friend to hold.
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They will look there dumbass
Even in high school they took my deodorant apart when searching me
I have this silver bullet that twists open and you can fit a good amount of pills in it
And it has allready past the test if you know what i mean,during a search they shined my lazer pointer to see if it was hollow witch it was not and did not even look twice at the bullet right next to it
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#36
 2008-11-13, 03:48
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
If you are out walking around and carrying a small amount of wieght on you ie. .1- 2 grams of your substance of choice, then shove that shit down DEEP into your sock. Like, double bag that shit and damn near walk on it if you are paranoid enough. A police officer can make you take off your shoes, but making you take off your socks would be strip searching and they need a warrant for that.
The reason why I say make sure it is in very deep is because the officer will most likely run his finger around the perimiter of the top of your sock. I had an officer do that to me, and make me take off my chuck taylors while in handcuffs awhile back, but because my .5 of shard was underneath my foot they never found it.
He pretty much fingered my asscrack thru my clothes, so i dont think wedging it inbetween your cheeks would be a good idea. It all depends on the cop, really.
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#37
 2008-11-13, 04:14
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Jesus you guys are paranoid, i just carry pills in my pocket at school, who the fuck cares.
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#38
 2008-11-13, 04:37
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
The best thing for small doses is a big highlighter.
Hollow it out and put the drugs where the ink goes.
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#39
 2008-11-13, 05:04
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if you think they are suspicious murder then and put them in the freezer in your basement in trashbags. invite other people over and have smoking sessions down there and then eat there flesh for the munchies
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#40
 2008-11-13, 19:27
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Originally Posted by jowie
The best thing for small doses is a big highlighter.
Hollow it out and put the drugs where the ink goes.
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This.
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#41
 2008-11-13, 23:32
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if you think they are suspicious murder then and put them in the freezer in your basement in trashbags. invite other people over and have smoking sessions down there and then eat there flesh for the munchies
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I did that back in '83
Good times :D
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#42
 2008-11-14, 03:15
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plug it and if the dog sniffs your ass sue for sexual harassment.
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#43
 2008-11-14, 05:11
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You can shave off the top 5mm from a film container & the place it inside another for a secret hiding place.
(in between the containers)
That might have worked in 1979, but if you're driving anything but a total poorfolk niggermobile with disposable cameras laying around they're gonna know you don't have fucking Kodak in there.
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#44
 2008-11-14, 06:26
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you can always buy a old massive set of headphones (over ear) and gut them, run a new set of ear buds into the shell and just pop your stuff into the newly created cavity. I've seen it done with up to 4g in it, but that is getting cocky.
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#45
 2008-11-22, 02:52
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
Heres a quicky if you have too, actually two.
Get a plastic milk container & pour some white paint in it & let it coat most of the inside & let it dry.
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Get 2 cans, like the sort baked beans come in.
Tear the label off one & cut one end of each can.
Now don't cut it normal like. Cut it from the Outside dia inwards.
Theres some can openers that do it that way anyway.
You need to be able to remove the Whole end of the can. Rim and all.
Now put your item inside the can with no label.
Squash the can a bit & force it into the other can, once its in a bit, push it in with your foot or use a hammer & wooden block.
You need to get it even or the inner can will crumple & go off cockeyed.
Once its in it should look like a normal can, with lable.
Do it a few times with old cans to get good at it. Not every attempt works right.
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To do that 'stash can' idea where you put a jar with a screw cap inside the coke can.
Use latex to fill the gap between the Ali can & the inner jar. That lets it have the right amount of 'give' when you squeeze it.
Add some plaster of paris if you don't get it exactly right.
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#46
 2008-11-22, 05:27
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If you are out walking around and carrying a small amount of wieght on you ie. .1- 2 grams of your substance of choice, then shove that shit down DEEP into your sock. Like, double bag that shit and damn near walk on it if you are paranoid enough. A police officer can make you take off your shoes, but making you take off your socks would be strip searching and they need a warrant for that.
The reason why I say make sure it is in very deep is because the officer will most likely run his finger around the perimiter of the top of your sock. I had an officer do that to me, and make me take off my chuck taylors while in handcuffs awhile back, but because my .5 of shard was underneath my foot they never found it.
They will eventually search the inside of your socks, they will turn them inside out and everything, before they put you in a holding cell before trial and all of that shit. At least Chicago Police Dept. does this. The only way you might escape this is if you get released as a juvenile or somehow escape the lockup.
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#47
 2008-11-22, 11:01
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those are for little girls:p
I work at a gas station and sell a LOT of cigarettes. It is mostly men who I sell to.
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#48
 2008-11-22, 23:33
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I don't think the chip bag thing'll work. I'm sure the smell will still get out, plus, residue on the outside of the bag. Your pretty much only hope would be vacuum sealing or whatever that's called. I read it in another thread like a couple days ago. You have to vacuum seal it once, then go somewhere else where there are no drugs and make sure everythings all clean and shit and vacuum seal again, then probably wash the FUCK out of it. Real depends on what your use for it is though, you gotta be more specific.
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This, but if you vacuum seal it once and leave it for a while (I'm going to guess 2 weeks would be overkill) the second vacuum sealing and cleaning isn't necessary. Good if you want to be paranoid though, and being paranoid always helps keep us safe. Keep in mind drug dogs don't go sniffing for pills, so this is just for weed.
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#49
 2008-11-23, 00:03
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Buy a cat and shove all your drugs up its butt. When the drug dogs bark at it, the cops will dismiss it as natural.
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#50
 2008-11-23, 04:25
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
get your car on pimp my ride so west coast customs puts all those storage containers in your car that only open with the flip of a switch then use those. thats how i carry all my weight these days.
to take care of k9 units, whenever you are carrying large amounts of weight just bring a small dog with you. they throw the k9s off too much to do their jobs.
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#51
 2008-11-24, 12:49
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
Quote:
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Originally Posted by Transparent
Buy a cat and shove all your drugs up its butt. When the drug dogs bark at it, the cops will dismiss it as natural.
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Until it shits out a bag of Xanax onto your carpet...
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#52
 2008-11-24, 21:57
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Re: Secret containers and carrying...
Until it shits out a bag of Xanax onto your carpet...
Fuck, I just thought of that. Hold up, I gotta go dig something out.
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