People have a shallow understanding of religion

[killallthewhiteman]

Let me use the example of culinary culture as an analogy.

This post is a response to society but specifically because of lack of clarity in peoples threads/posts in this forum.

There are certain fundamental's in cooking. Cooking can be regarded as a similar process across all culinary cultures, but at the same time it is not the same.

They motivation is to eat, both to appreciate and provide nutrition, but different cultures/people will use different ingredients and therefore the food is different across different culinary denominations (i.e. Asian, Indian, Mediterranean, etc).

It is a fact all of the food tastes like food, but it tastes very different.

Please when you are making your attacks on God, religion, faith etc be specific in your articulation. You might understand where your coming form but we dont.

In other words, there are various interpretations of god, so if you have a question of God make it specific to a specific interpretation.

I see alot of people attacking Christianity but they don't make this clear so this inhibits constructive feedback.

here is an example: following God will get you sent to hell.

all of the ways in which you can follow God or just the one?

you see what i mean.

People dont understand religion well, only in a certain context; which for most totse users is the western context so Christianity is the religion being questioned; and yet if one has a truly intrinsic problem and with religion, faith and spirituality then all aspects and types of religion would be comprehended.

But because this intrinsic motivation is lacking i am forced to conclude that the nay-sayers are the real sheep whilst those with an intrinsic motivation to be contructive with their life and act intrinsicly and in and of themselves are to be commended.

TL/DR Stop stereo typing religion.

TL/DR

There is no god.

[killallthewhiteman]

tl/dr added

[ArmsMerchant]

Originally Posted by Revenant007

TL/DR

There is no god.

Please read the stickies and pay attention to them.

FYI, this sort of content-free post tends to get frowned on in these here parts, lil buckaroo.

[killallthewhiteman]

Originally Posted by ArmsMerchant

Please read the stickies and pay attention to them.

FYI, this sort of content-free post tends to get frowned on in these here parts, lil buckaroo.

i see what you mean.

come to think of it this should have been made in B&M.

[ArmsMerchant]

"all of the ways in which you can follow God or just the one?"


Not to mention, which conception of God? There are many.

I think we can stipulate that most people have a shallow conception of religion, and none more so than those who profess to be religious. So what?

How is our own spiritual growth--which is all we should really be concerned with--enhanced by pointing this out?

[godfather89]

People will always have a shallow understanding. Most are superficial... This is why Jesus called the faithful his "sheep." They sheep because they follow they don't lead and yet we are told to be like Christ, this is a call to be individuals not group thinking peoples. The ignorance of group think is a symptom of the age we live in. This age is ending however, in time we will see more and more awareness of this fact. Blind adherence to whatever is going to end and we will all be one bit closer to reality.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by killallthewhiteman

But because this intrinsic motivation is lacking i am forced to conclude that the nay-sayers are the real sheep whilst those with an intrinsic motivation to be contructive with their life and act intrinsicly and in and of themselves are to be commended.

You have a shallow understanding of people.

We fear the unknown, and desire it at the same time

Religion dilutes our fear of the unknown after death and recognizes the desire to not stop existing.

Something to cling to

[eyeluvthe9ds]

My question is this: If there is a God, something that can create anything, do anything, a [i]higher[i] power than yourself, why do you people think that you can use your mortal logic to try and disprove this being?

Its like a dog trying to disprove the existence of its owner.

[killallthewhiteman]

Originally Posted by eyeluvthe9ds

My question is this: If there is a God, something that can create anything, do anything, a [i]higher[i] power than yourself, why do you people think that you can use your mortal logic to try and disprove this being?

Its like a dog trying to disprove the existence of its owner.

no i dont think you could use that analogy. One of things that deviates us from animals is our sense of ego - our ethnographic bias; "my way is better than your way". This is what gives us the sense of entitlement to claim something as property or having ownership of something, but at the end of the day its only an idea. Seeing as how spirituality/religion is generally about transcending the ego- i drought a concept that has been derived from the ego could be use as an analogy for denying an alpha omega, in a way they are opposites.

[BrokeProphet]

God is the principal or sole deity in religions and other belief systems that worship one deity.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God

God is a concept unvalidated by any evidence.

No matter what God you worship, that fact applies. If that fact applies to one God it obviously applies to pantheons as well, so when I say...

"Your God is bullshit", rest assured no matter what God(s) you worship, I am talking directly to about your God, and do so not with a shallow understanding, but with an understanding of the definitions of the words I use.

[BrokeProphet]

Originally Posted by eyeluvthe9ds

My question is this: If there is a God, something that can create anything, do anything, a [i]higher[i] power than yourself, why do you people think that you can use your mortal logic to try and disprove this being?

Because a God that can create/do anything is impossible. It is best summed up in the old question "Can God create a rock so heavy he himself cannot lift it". This is a riddle that leads one to believe the ability to anything is impossible.

That is just my mortal logic talking, but mortal logic is ALL WE HAVE. You trust it in your everyday life when it comes to everything else, why doubt it where an impossible zero evidence having entity is concerned?

Could it be b/c it gives a warm fuzzy feeling to think you will see grandma in the afterlife, or is it a secure feeling you get when you think about how the most powerful thing in the entire universe, knows you, and loves you eternally.

Don't get me wrong, this is a very romantic and pleasant concept, but that alone, does not make it any more true or correct.

That mortal logic tells me, people would rather believe in a pleasing lie, than face a rather droll or cold reality.

[KikoSanchez]

Originally Posted by eyeluvthe9ds

My question is this: If there is a God, something that can create anything, do anything, a [i]higher[i] power than yourself, why do you people think that you can use your mortal logic to try and disprove this being?

Its like a dog trying to disprove the existence of its owner.

Donkey. According to this, I guess we would all just be default agnostics or ignostics, better yet. If we are so feeble-minded, we shouldn't take any position. But really, it is all we have to form arguments from, there is no other way for us rationalize things.

[redzed]

It's strange that a person who uses an offensive tag would feel moved to criticise others for having a shallow understanding. Reflection perhaps?

[Tetrahydrocannabinol]

Originally Posted by eyeluvthe9ds

My question is this: If there is a God, something that can create anything, do anything, a [i]higher[i] power than yourself, why do you people think that you can use your mortal logic to try and disprove this being?

Its like a dog trying to disprove the existence of its owner.

You sir, are retarded. And you've made quite possibly the poorest analogy of the year. EPIC fail.

[killallthewhiteman]

let me just clarify this thread.

When i say people have a shallow understanding of religion i was saying that people lack a breadth of understanding.

People who are atheists are defining themselves by what they are not; they are not christians, and christians are not athiests.

Dont people understand that atheism and Christianity make up a fraction of knowledge?

People are assuming that christianity is the only spiritual knowledge and atheism is the only material knowledge.

For instance

"I hate God, church is boring, jesus is bullshit i want to be an atheist".

Hold the fucking phone.

What about Vedic philosophy? Jainism? New Religious Movements? Abraham religions?

Do a bit of research on spiritual understanding and come to your own conclusions?

I realise what you do is our of my hands but it makes me sad when people dont know why they believe what they do, that is the clear advantage of the believer over a non-believer.

[PirateJoe]

Originally Posted by killallthewhiteman

let me just clarify this thread.

When i say people have a shallow understanding of religion i was saying that people lack a breadth of understanding.

People who are atheists are defining themselves by what they are not; they are not christians, and christians are not athiests.

Atheists are also not jewish, muslim, hindi, etc etc. I don't think anyone is proposing that the polar opposite of atheism is christianity.

Dont people understand that atheism and Christianity make up a fraction of knowledge?

People are assuming that christianity is the only spiritual knowledge and atheism is the only material knowledge.

For instance

"I hate God, church is boring, jesus is bullshit i want to be an atheist".

Hold the fucking phone.

What about Vedic philosophy? Jainism? New Religious Movements? Abraham religions?

I was under the impression that atheism was a rejection of the idea of supernatural beings, not the belief that jesus is bullshit. If I reject the Christian God because there's no evidence of his existence, why would I even think about converting to a religion rife with supernatural beings? If I reject the christian god because I don't agree with jesus, then yeah, I'd agree with you. But then you're not really an atheist, and I doubt many atheists reject religion just because of jesus or the church.

Do a bit of research on spiritual understanding and come to your own conclusions?

Obviously the most prudent road to take in any situation

I realise what you do is our of my hands but it makes me sad when people dont know why they believe what they do, that is the clear advantage of the believer over a non-believer.

Its ironic you should mention that, in my experience it is the believers who do not know why they believe what they do (or what they believe for that matter, but that's a different topic). When confronted with the question, "Why do you believe in the religion you do?", most will reply with, "i dunno lol", or , "because I was raised that way". People who do a little research and take an objective look at religions in general are usually called atheists.