Ok seems theres a new breed of herbal blends/mixes going around, other than the usual bulshit herbs that people mash together to form shit buds. Now naturally I believe theres legal items out there that have effects, but effects almost identical effects to that to THC/weed? How is that possible? If you take a quick search for reviews on such substances(spice gold, XXX chillin etc.) many claim they are as good if not better than weed.

Spice gold for example pretty much mimics the effects of weed, I got my sample in and was surprised. Almost immediately i was in disbelief....since ive had several other legal/herbal blends and they did not create any such effects. So that brings me to the idea of what else is in this blend besides the supposive "list" of herbs posted across the net. Upon inspection of the spice gold sample i received it looked as if it did not contain the 7+ herbs were mixed in it. Makes me believe that this shit is infact laced/sprayed down, or is just herbs grated up as a front and the actual "effective ingredient" is mixed between or sprayed on(assuming liquid) the mix. There was also some random talk going around this blend was laced with some legal canniboid.

I honestly believe something of that nature is involved with these more expensive herbal blends. Anyone have any follow ups or ideas?

You know I'm in the same boat as you, today I've been thinking about ordering some "spice gold" although I've smoked herbal alternitives before and they've done nothing for me. We wont really know until we try it huh...

Personally I think its kind of shitty even if it does work. I mean, it costs more than weed and while I'm all for people using different things [legal or not] it just doesn't make sense to me to spend so much more on something that does the same job.

I think the people that make/sell this stuff are just profiteering. Basically they're trying to make as much as they can off people who either can't get weed, or have reasons not to smoke. They know these people want something to smoke, so there they are offering what is apparently a decent product at an outrageous price. That is just taking advantage.

You could not keep this in the spice thread on the front page?

I felt just like you, i had tested like 4-5 diff herbal blends with no effects. After hearing all the hype about spice gold i figured it was just a bunch of noob kids talking praise as it beat their OTC dxm highs. Obviously theres more to it than that.

Yea pricing is high, but obviously they can charge what they want since it obviously has effects that no other product offers. And weed is ultra hard to come by for some now a days. Fucking $50-60 an 8th? fuck that shit, unless its real high end shit.

EDIT: Im just looking for serious discussion, not about purchasing or best stores online...

I felt just like you, i had tested like 4-5 diff herbal blends with no effects. After hearing all the hype about spice gold i figured it was just a bunch of noob kids talking praise as it beat their OTC dxm highs. Obviously theres more to it than that.

Yea pricing is high, but obviously they can charge what they want since it obviously has effects that no other product offers. And weed is ultra hard to come by for some now a days. Fucking $50-60 an 8th? fuck that shit, unless its real high end shit.

so you spend 70-100$ on less than a 1/8th?
Very logical.

I felt just like you, i had tested like 4-5 diff herbal blends with no effects. After hearing all the hype about spice gold i figured it was just a bunch of noob kids talking praise as it beat their OTC dxm highs. Obviously theres more to it than that.

Yea pricing is high, but obviously they can charge what they want since it obviously has effects that no other product offers. And weed is ultra hard to come by for some now a days. Fucking $50-60 an 8th? fuck that shit, unless its real high end shit.

EDIT: Im just looking for serious discussion, not about purchasing or best stores online...

Well, that's kind of the whole idea behind them taking advantage. You can't get weed so you're being charged a jacked up price for something with similar effects. I guess if you really want something to smoke whatever, but you really shouldn't let people rip you off.

I see where you're coming from, although I dont think there'd be much of a market if it didn't work. Alternative herbal high's probably wouldn't be a huge market, and if what they claimed to do didn't work I doubt people would come back buying more. I mean look at salvia D, that is a herbal alternitive and that works. Why can't this spice be kind of the same in the same kind of respects?

Cause salvia produces a different feel. You dont want to smoke that shit all day and night do you?

Spice produces similar/desirable effects people want. So its possible that taking that into consideration of the price. That and with this product has been nothing but positive reviews..from people on totse, grass city and other online forums. Now all of a sudden out of the hundreds of bulshit herb mixes that are on the market theres a choice group of products that produce actual effects. Whats different from these blends and other blends? Dont believe that bulshit that its A PERFECTLY MIXED RATIO OF HERBS. Other places use the same herbs, similar mixes and what not.

I dont pay those fucking prices for weed and i wont for this shit either. cheapest i seen is about $45 for 3grams of spice diamond..these sites charging $55 starting.

Id say more than likely kids who arent 18, and cannot obtain any illegals would shoot for herbal substitutes first. But besides it being focused on that age group alot of other people are caught up in the new spice hype.

cause salvia produces a different feel. You dont want to smoke that shit all day and night do you?

Spice produces similar/desirable effects people want. So its possible that taking that into consideration of the price.

I dont pay those fucking prices for weed and i wont for this shit either. cheapest i seen is about $45 for 3grams of spice diamond..these sites charging $55 starting.

Id say more than likely kids who arent 18, and cannot obtain any illegals would shoot for herbal substitutes first. But besides it being focused on that age group alot of other people are caught up in the new spice hype.

Well delete this thread and take it to the SPICE THREAD like 3 THREADS DOWN. You see there is a thrread about spice so you decide you should make another one ABOUT THE SAME EXACT THING.

Well delete this thread and take it to the SPICE THREAD like 3 THREADS DOWN. You see there is a thrread about spice so you decide you should make another one ABOUT THE SAME EXACT THING.

I nominate ilovechronic as the next new mod of BLTC...any others?

Id say more than likely kids who arent 18, and cannot obtain any illegals would shoot for herbal substitutes first. But besides it being focused on that age group alot of other people are caught up in the new spice hype.

That sounds quite right, and I'm sure the people distributing this stuff know exactly who they're selling it to. Which to me makes it worse that they charge so much. Like people who sell weed to the younger crowd for like $20-$30 a gram.

I nominate ilovechronic as the next new mod of BLTC...any others?

Shit I would never want to clean this place up. the thing is, it is just annoying when the thread is RIGHT below yours.

concentrated extracts of: Canavalia Maritima(leaves), white & blue lotus petals(Nymphaea Caerulea & Nymphaea Alba) , Sacred lotus petals (Nelumbo Nucifera), Scuttelaria Nana leaves, Pedicularis densiflora buds, Leonotis Leonurus petals, Zornia Latifolia leaves, and Marihuanilla leaves(Leonurus Sibiricus).

Theres an excerpt from a seller whose ingredients do not match the other ones. noticably having little mari i nit(marihuanillia)

Ilovechronic: I keep noticing your only real ammo against spice is the price. Now, I'm not trying to defend spice like its the best thing on earth, but there are a few things you need to pay attention to before you start smashing it. Spice lasts longer than weed, much longer. I smoke weed everyday and I'm pretty much sober by the 3-4 hour mark with weed. Spice lasts around 4-6 hours in my experience. You also smoke a lot less spice than you typically do with weed. My 400mg spice gold sample lasted me and my girlfriend around 5 good smoke sessions. And with spice diamond you need even less. And to top that off, chillinXXX is supposed to be even more potent! Taking those into consideration makes spice a little more economical than you think, especially for those who get tested or cant get weed.

To add to this thread, I don't think it is all that impossible for just a simple mixture of well known botanicals to produce an effect similar to weed. But I wouldn't dismiss the theory that its sprayed with something. Spice gold LOOKS like a blend of 3-4 different plants, but they might very well just use herbal extracts added to a smooth-smoking decent tasting medium.

Well i noticed the stuff lingers a little bit longer than weed but not by much, althought you get a nice after glow for a while.

I am not smashing it at all. I am just saying its a waste of money and if I want weed I will get weed. I do need to order sme bullshit hyped up "legal marijuana alternative" to mimic the effects of my weed.

And if this stuff does actually work it will be illegal soon because everyone saying its "like TeH WeeD" Saying the effects are similar or the same is just going to make it illegal faster.

So you better just cut it out if you actually want to keep your precious SPICE. *throws in the reference from the movie dune*

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there is a legal cannibinoid in spice gold. but try spice diamond, it feels like it is literally fucking with your head. like you're on xanax and an extreme schizo at the same time.

so you spend 70-100$ on less than a 1/8th?
Very logical.

you can get them for 35-55 respeCtively on the internet. so that is cheaper than some dank.

plus.. is it not worth it to get high and be completely legally unresponsible for it? jesus.

you can rip a bong full of this outside your local police station.

there is a legal cannibinoid in spice gold. but try spice diamond, it feels like it is literally fucking with your head. like you're on xanax and an extreme schizo at the same time.

dude there are no legal cannbinoids. analogue act buddy! and that was a myth or rumor. there was no synthetic cannbinoids added to spice.

you can get them for 35-55 respeCtively on the internet. so that is cheaper than some dank.

plus.. is it not worth it to get high and be completely legally unresponsible for it? jesus.

you can rip a bong full of this outside your local police station.

isnt this stuff like othr legal ethnobotanicals, marked and sold as incense? and marked "not for human consumption"

It's sounds like a spam add.

Those spice blends use various cannabinoids, the JWH series.

isnt this stuff like othr legal ethnobotanicals, marked and sold as incense? and marked "not for human consumption"

YEAH BUT SO. they find a package of incense.. what the fuck can they do..

i wouldn't buy this shit but my friends who have drug testing jobs and who play sports swear by it and of course i've smoked it.. it works.. its kind of ridiculous. i know of one cannibinoid which is in it, but yeah i've always kind of figured there was something fishy. its probably sprayed down with EVERYTHING but THC. if that mankes sense.

Iv said this on here before but who has smoked it and actually believes that:

Baybean, Blue Lotus, Lion's Tail, Lousewort, Indian Warrior, Dwarf Scullcap, Maconha Brava, Pink Lotus, Marshmallow, Red Clover, Rose, Siberian Motherwort, Vanilla and Honey.


Is really all spice contains? I suspect foul play because there is no way in hell the required amount of that blend to get high could be provided by those components even if they were concentrated, its just too much like weed. Sure they would get you high but I don't believe for one second they would have almost the EXACT same effect as weed like this stuff does, there has to be something they aint telling us about in it.

i know of one cannibinoid which is in it, but yeah i've always kind of figured there was something fishy. .

Well you know of a cannibinoid in it? would you liketo share which cannibinoid?Thc is not the only thing illegal in marijuana. It is all of the cannibinoids. And representing the product as the same effects as marijuana is going to fast track it to being banned. That was my point.

Iv said this on here before but who has smoked it and actually believes that:



Is really all spice contains? I suspect foul play because there is no way in hell the required amount of that blend to get high could be provided by those components even if they were concentrated, its just too much like weed. Sure they would get you high but I don't believe for one second they would have almost the EXACT same effect as weed like this stuff does, there has to be something they aint telling us about in it.

Exactly what i said, what herbs effects point to that of being almost ontop similar with weed? I still says it a cover up/front these guys are using. Otherwise other companies would be profiting selling their bulshit mixes..but they are not. You never hear anyone praise anything but these new breed combos.

And fuck it, i dont care if we have survy on this topic...id be willing to give them a full report just to figure out whats in this stuff on the legit scale. Especially since an oz cost way way way more than regular old marijane.

I still says it a cover up/front these guys are using. Otherwise other companies would be profiting selling their bulshit mixes


Its the same thing with legal "ecstasy" they word beta ketones and other things that should probably really be illegal as "amino acid blend" when they obviously aren't amino acids.

The legal high industry is almost as shady as the illegal high industry, just shady in a different way.

Its the same thing with legal "ecstasy" they word beta ketones and other things that should probably really be illegal as "amino acid blend" when they obviously aren't amino acids.

The legal high industry is almost as shady as the illegal high industry, just shady in a different way.

Except this time the shit has effects therefore there is a market for the merchandise.

Except this time the shit has effects therefore there is a market for the merchandise.

You would be surprised how much of the shit on the market actually works at the moment, some almost as good as the real thing. I also reckon a lot of people would be very surprised if they bothered to find out what was actually in them.

There is always a market for legal highs, there is a surprisingly big culture around legal highs in the same way there is with drugs. Some people will actually shop around and know what they are buying and buy lots whereas a hell of a lot of people just buy random crap as a spur of the moment thing usually recommended by the guy in the shop, a friend or the fancy packaging and even if they are shit they are usually happy and its all money in the bank. The way I see it there is probably a fair bit of money in it if you go about it the right way.

I also don't think that spice will get made illegal for quite a while unless media coverage of it increases stupidly like with salvia and the goverment actually do find something illegal in it, even then salvia is still legal and I'm sure they will change that before they turn to spice which is after all "not for human consumption". Otherwise they have no real legal right to prohibit it as long as everything is above board and if they do make one of the ingredients of the blend illegal all the company has to do it take it out and continue to sell. Chances are this stuff has already been lab tested by a fair few independent people but as far as we know either they too are keeping it quiet or they found it to be above board too.

Except this time the shit has effects therefore there is a market for the merchandise.

Quite a few of the "legal ecstacies" contain mephedrone/methylone/butylone.

But yea, Chillin xxx is the tits. And also for the price point, from a gram of Chillin I'd get about 4 joints, but from a gram of weed I'd get 2. So whilst it's exactly the same price, you're effectively getting twice as stoned from it, or to put it in simpler terms, price per stone is much lower.

I also don't think that spice will get made illegal for quite a while unless media coverage of it increases stupidly like with salvia and the goverment actually do find something illegal in it, even then salvia is still legal and I'm sure they will change that before they turn to spice which is after all "not for human consumption".

Haha, Spice has just been banned in Jersey.

And, EDIT had to stop selling Salvia immediately due to a letter from the MHRA.

Yea how much stuff actually works..just this new group of shit coming out...

if you refer to herbalsmokeshop(Ex.) their herb blends and similar companies shit does nothing and you pay high prices.

Quite a few of the "legal ecstacies" contain mephedrone/methylone/butylone.

But yea, Chillin xxx is the tits. And also for the price point, from a gram of Chillin I'd get about 4 joints, but from a gram of weed I'd get 2. So whilst it's exactly the same price, you're effectively getting twice as stoned from it, or to put it in simpler terms, price per stone is much lower.

Which oneis Chillin? Iv only tried spice and for the first time last night skunk. The price aint too bad on either, in terms of weight it works out about the same price as weed but on the other hand the legal blends are somewhat stronger. Then again all the legal blends taste like shit and half the pleasure of smoking weed is being able to kick back and enjoy a nice smoke with your mates not trying to avoid the horrible taste.

Guess both have their benifits

Yea how much stuff actually works..just this new group of shit coming out...

if you refer to herbalsmokeshop(Ex.) their herb blends and similar companies shit does nothing and you pay high prices.

Assuming your anywhere other than Europe then the legal high industry is shit, everything and anything is banned or on the way to being banned.

Chillin xxx is Skunk. It's so much better than Spice Gold.

And I didn't think Skunk tasted too bad really, nowhere near as bad as Spice did.

Haha, Spice has just been banned in Jersey.

And, EDIT had to stop selling Salvia immediately due to a letter from the MHRA.

Yeah keep saying it is like marijuana people. See how long it takes to be scheduled.

Yeah keep saying it is like marijuana people. See how long it takes to be scheduled.

Ok we get it......not the only place talk is going on about the shit. Let me give you their links and you can go police their threads too.

Fuck Spice. Man up and smoke weed... that and eat some real spice, nutmeg, and me stoned for a couple of days with bloodshot eyes and really bad gas.

I'm not 18 and i can easily get illegals.


What noob can't? I can find PCP and crack easier than i can get alcohol. That's my only problem.

Ok we get it......not the only place talk is going on about the shit. Let me give you their links and you can go police their threads too.

Stfu. You no this is a waste of space when there is A THREAD THAT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THIS, LIKE RIGHT UNDER IT.

And what did my comment about you dumbfucks" quit calling it just like weed" have to do with policing threads. Honestly i dont give a fuck if it is made illegal. i was just pointing that out if you want to kepp your precious spice.

so just keep that "man it is just like weed bs" up. and the "it gets you just as stoned" bs.

If the shit was actually as good as people say then you wouldnt want to be encouraging its use and making it more popular to kidiots so it will be prohibited. You better stock up because yo and all the other kidiots fucking ruined that shit just like the salvia(another thing i dont care about). and just like kratom will be made illegal because everyone says it is like opiates.

if you really cared about the shit you would want to keep it quiet.(once again that went out the door)

I tried spice diamond with 9 of my friends and we had a fucking blast. I love my weed but this was great, no slow down or haziness of thoughts, no slight paranoia like ya sometimes get on weed and it lasted ages. I actually had trouble sleeping because my thoughts were really clear. I was analyzing my subconscious while trying to sleep.

Yeah keep saying it is like marijuana people. See how long it takes to be scheduled.

Places like totse dont get things like this banned, the people watching this place have got bigger fish to fry i.e. ILLEGAL drugs and those who might actually care dont have the autohority to do shit about it.

If anything gets this stuff banned its people on youtube bigging it up like this idiot: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MWo-SIJeJ4s I cant actually b

Even then that probly wont matter because unlike salvia this isnt some crazy scary halucogen... You think how bad that looks like to someone who doesnt understand the stuff when they see numerous people breaking through on it. The youtube generation and peoples desire to put every video they take of just about everything they do on there. Compared to salvia this stuff is pretty much low profile, people arent raving about it in the way they were about salvia say 1-2 years ago.

I just got my spice diamond in today. I got a new idea on this stuff. As i read it on another forum...that 1 herb alone may have no effects but when combined properly each part may combine to serve as a "feeling".

I mean ive smoked dream herb(calea), mugwort, marijuanillia all by themselves each bearing barely noticeable but small effects. So with each part coming together to combine up, it may pack a bunch....

but this is what bothers me, what latches on to make the duration last so long? Usually smoking herbs by themselves have no real duration, maybe 30minutes at most(after smoking alot and or placebo). How is it possible that with a quarter/half bowl of spice you can gain such effects? Points to adding truth that this shit is sprayed down with a possible extract of plant matter(assuming its on the legal side).

only way ^^^^ thinking from a "this is a legit way"

It would only make sense that extracts are incorporated into the recipe seeing how you only need ~100mg for a good stone, that it appears to be comprised of only a few herbs, and the duration/ intensity of the experience.

Spice wont be illegal for a while, the media is still hacking away at salvia, and Im sure they will find some other drugs/botanicals to ban before spice gains any real publicity. Like kratom, being nearly identical in effect to some opiates, should cause a much more media panic than spice. Kratom has been around for years and years, its not unnoticed, just not enough soccer moms have made a huge scene about it yet. Spice and other legit smoking blends will probably suffer the same fate in the long run, but this forum isnt going to do shit to expediate its demise.

but this is what bothers me, what latches on to make the duration last so long? Usually smoking herbs by themselves have no real duration, maybe 30minutes at most(after smoking alot and or placebo). How is it possible that with a quarter/half bowl of spice you can gain such effects? Points to adding truth that this shit is sprayed down with a possible extract of plant matter(assuming its on the legal side).

only way ^^^^ thinking from a "this is a legit way"

I do know for a fact that it is not just "herbs" and that it has been sprayed with "extract" but really... What is that extract? It could be just purified extracts taken from the plant material used which would be the obvious answer. OR it could be something completely different they aren't telling us about hidden behind the term "extract" to make it seem the herbs themselves are giving the effects. I refuse to believe that the listed herbs can in any way provide a high so simillar to weed, extract or no extract. I do believe that they are capable of providing a high and probably contributes towards it but alone that high would probably feel nothing like weed. There is a lot more to it...

Dude just got my xxx chillin. That shit is bomb diggity. Don't skimp out on the opportunity. shit's tight. Smells like... christmas. Or a savanna. One of the two.

Definitely not a hoax, lol.

it says it costs 240 bucks for 30 grams, so if its just as good as weed its actually cheaper.

Smells like... christmas.

I see what you mean.

I think it smells like pot pourri :p

Spice gold for example pretty much mimics the effects of weed, I got my sample in and was surprised. Almost immediately i was in disbelief....


this stuff sound cool, where did you get a sample?

google search...

1g i got not a sample sample(free :-( )..

I think it could be some canniboid extracts sprayed on that are legal/undetectable.

I just blew through a wad of the diamond...and the only thing is its just too smooth to be a weed high...although everything else is similar.

google search...

1g i got not a sample sample(free :-( )..

I think it could be some canniboid extracts sprayed on that are legal/undetecable

Bullshit because cannabinoid extracts are very much detectable. ANd ANY cannbinoid that comes from marijuana is considered illegal.

Bullshit because cannabinoid extracts are very much detectable. ANd ANY cannbinoid that comes from marijuana is considered illegal.

Spice is made in Europe right?

Europe has different drug laws to America. Don't you have like laws which cover wide ranges of drugs, like even ones which arent yet discovered? Analogue act or something?

Well in Europe, or at least in the UK, the drugs are banned by chemical, and sort of the same analogue thingyish, but not as strict. So to ban it they'd have to discover the chemical sprayed onto it, but considering nobody knows what the fuck is in it and is unlikely to find out, and it's not well known enough yet, is why Spice is not illegal.

Spice is made in Europe right?

Europe has different drug laws to America. Don't you have like laws which cover wide ranges of drugs, like even ones which arent yet discovered? Analogue act or something?

Well in Europe, or at least in the UK, the drugs are banned by chemical, and sort of the same analogue thingyish, but not as strict. So to ban it they'd have to discover the chemical sprayed onto it, but considering nobody knows what the fuck is in it and is unlikely to find out, and it's not well known enough yet, is why Spice is not illegal.

well if that was the case, then spice would be illegal in the US. So in europe they hve the 60 different cannibinoids individually banned? Last time I checked marijuana was on the ocntrolled list in the UK , meaning it and all its contents are ilegal.

well if that was the case, then spice would be illegal in the US. So in europe they hve the 60 different cannibinoids individually banned? Last time I checked marijuana was on the ocntrolled list in the UK , meaning it and all its contents are ilegal.

But to ban Spice they need to know what the fuck is in it, so yea it might be illegal, but they don't know and they probably don't care enough to find out.

But to ban Spice they need to know what the fuck is in it, so yea it might be illegal, but they don't know and they probably don't care enough to find out.

And my point is they will if all you dumb fucks keep saying it gets you so fucked up and it is like "teh weEd"

Bullshit because cannabinoid extracts are very much detectable. ANd ANY cannbinoid that comes from marijuana is considered illegal.

There are still some synthetic THC or cannabiloid annalogues that arent nessessarilly found in weed. Just because its an analogue of something that's found in weed doesnt mean its in weed itself. There are a lot of loopholes in the annalogue act both in the UK and Europe which can and are easilly exploited by the legal high industry which unlike street dealers can use legal aid to help find and exploit these loopholes. Once the goverment find these chemicals they ban them and close the loopholes but at the same time the legalhigh industry has backups and constantly searches for more. Just because they ban one or two of the ingredients in spice or find something they dont like in there doesnt mean the end of spice/skunk because they will just change whats in it. If the goverment banned spice outright all they have to do again is change the contents, re-package it and re-brand it.

would a test kit show up any thing?

There are still some synthetic THC or cannabiloid annalogues that arent nessessarilly found in weed. Just because its an analogue of something that's found in weed doesnt mean its in weed itself. There are a lot of loopholes in the annalogue act both in the UK and Europe which can and are easilly exploited by the legal high industry which unlike street dealers can use legal aid to help find and exploit these loopholes. Once the goverment find these chemicals they ban them and close the loopholes but at the same time the legalhigh industry has backups and constantly searches for more. Just because they ban one or two of the ingredients in spice or find something they dont like in there doesnt mean the end of spice/skunk because they will just change whats in it. If the goverment banned spice outright all they have to do again is change the contents, re-package it and re-brand it.

And that myth has been said with the spice herbal mixes and tested and then debunked. So nice try it is not a synthetic cannibinoid. And he said cannibinoid extracts, meaning of plant origin.

If the current contents have to be changed then it will not have the same effects, dur dur dur.

And that myth has been said with the spice herbal mixes and tested and then debunked. So nice try it is not a synthetic cannibinoid. And he said cannibinoid extracts, meaning of plant origin.

If the current contents have to be changed then it will not have the same effects, dur dur dur.

Dude coming at this guys angle, he can say whatever he wants...until it is found otherwise. There has been no testing done to even prove half of the listed ingredients are even contained in the pouch.....as if nobody cares and nobody will until this gets more mainstream.

Until some dumb fuck kid takes it around, and gets caught with or fucks up big will the shit have any notice to it. And plus herbal highs are just looked over, they advertise them in your "smoking" mags but no where else. You never hear anything public wise about any use of herbs and smoking them except for salvia.

And that myth has been said with the spice herbal
mixes and tested and then debunked. So nice try it is not a synthetic cannibinoid. And he said cannibinoid extracts, meaning of plant origin.

Do you have a legitimate source to PROVE that this has been tested in a lab by an INDEPENDENT researcher who has no connections with either the legal high industry, law enforcement or the goverment?


If the current contents have to be changed then it will not have the same effects, dur dur dur.

Um well yes it would, I would be happy to bet most of the listed ingredients in that blend contribute fuck all to the high and are basically just there as filler and to list on the package making it seem like they do the job. There is something not listed on that package that is creating that high and should they manage to find out what it is and were to be made illegal I'm pretty sure a business like that would have a backup with near same effects ready to put it back out on the shelves.


they advertise them in your "smoking" mags



Exactly, they are more likely to notice it in an easilly avaliable magazine which the police and goverment are scrutinising a hell of a lot more than here. Talking about this on totse is going to do fuck all in terms of getting this shit made illegal.



Until some dumb fuck kid takes it around, and gets caught with or fucks up big will the shit have any notice to it

This is why it will get made illegal (eventually) not talking about the stuff on an obscure webforum.

ITT: ilovechronic admits to taking it in the ass.

Um what? I never admitted to anything that absurd. I am not even an advocate of plugging like some of these weirdos on here and i always speak against it. Now you are resorting to insults>?
Haha that is not going to keep your precious spice legal.

Haha that is not going to keep your precious spice legal.

Thats ok, tears wont be shed when its gone...

I prefer pot because it has a documented history of use and effects and I have a fairly good idea of exactly what chemicals I am putting into my body.

You guys who just want to get fucked up can have fun with your SUPER EXTREME SPICE PLATINUM EDITION.

i have nothing really against people who will use any and all chemicals provided someone claims it has psychoactive effects, someone has to be the guinea pig...

Thats ok, tears wont be shed when its gone...

Quoted for motherfucking truth! Ilovechronic, we are not defending it because we worship it or some shit, we are defending it because your views on the subject are skewed. Totse will not even make the slightest dent in the legal status of spice. Dozens of pseudo-legal chemicals/ botanicals have been discussed on this board without any real legal repercussion. Sure, the illegalization of salvia was inevitable, and spice will probably end the same, but our little conversations here wont do a fucking thing. And even if does become illegal, big fucking deal! Its not THAT impressive.

Quoted for motherfucking truth! Ilovechronic, we are not defending it because we worship it or some shit, we are defending it because your views on the subject are skewed. Totse will not even make the slightest dent in the legal status of spice. Dozens of pseudo-legal chemicals/ botanicals have been discussed on this board without any real legal repercussion. Sure, the illegalization of salvia was inevitable, and spice will probably end the same, but our little conversations here wont do a fucking thing. And even if does become illegal, big fucking deal! Its not THAT impressive.

I am not just talking about totse i am talking about forums in general dicussing it.

I am not just talking about totse i am talking about forums in general dicussing it.

This kid i swear, ok ILC lets go over the intelligence any gov operation has on herbal smokeables:

1. Shit is marketed under incense to be properly/legally sold
2. Shit is looked upon as a legal alternative to marijuana
3. Herbal smoke-ables contain no real threat to anything as weed is still more available and easier to get than these herbal products. Why pay more for less?
4. Salvia a WAY MORE DISCUSSED item is finally having action taken against it because of what effects it produced and from DUMB ASS KIDS posting themselves high on the shit on youtube.( i know theres talk of the new breed stuff as well on there). By no means is this stuff as powerful or altering as salvia...therefore why pay attention to it for "now" until more reports develop.

^^^ on here, and every other forum i seen about spice its the same talk over and over...and I actually believe spice will not catch on because of the fucking ridiculous prices. half oz of greenston for $60, versus what like what $50 a 8th, $100 a oz for some bulshit spice a "comparable" product? Nothing like paying twice the price for the legality of things.

^ Yea, that last paragraph.

Spice and Chillin are good, Chillin being really good, but for the price you might as just buy the real deal.

Sometimes if you have some spare cash they are nice to mix, but I would never think about buying 3g of Spice/Chillin over 3g of weed if I only have £20. Goes the same for most people, and it is always handy for when your area is dry of weed.

Although I am happy cos tomorrow I got a gram of Chillin coming and I have 2.5g of nice bud left Guna be a fun weekend.

This kid i swear,

Dude I am almost 20 years old come the 23rd.

Dude I am almost 20 years old come the 23rd.

Cool, you still have the intelligence of a kid though.

Cool, you still have the intelligence of a kid though.

Sure i do, because I wasonce a kid. But now I have intelligence of an adult also.

Bump: I recently decided to test out some of these 'legit' legal highs. I've sampled spice, spice gold, and spice diamond, and Chillin XXX; I can tell you that Chillin is by far the best out all of them. Blows them out of the water.

anyone whos looking to check this stuff out do not buy spice diamond as its pretty much identical to spice gold but just more expensive....

Honestly believe most of their shit they sell is the same just with a minor difference in indgred's(+ / - more or less herb)

I actually noticed that diamond was quite a bit stronger than gold. But maybe that was just me. IMO don't buy any of the spices, chillin XXX is where its at (for legal smokeables that is) . I took 4 bong hits of it yesterday and got so baked, I had a hard time reading. I am thoroughly impressed with chillin.

I took 4 bong hits of it yesterday and got so baked, I had a hard time reading. I am thoroughly impressed with chillin.

There's something odd about Chillin xxx. When you smoke a fair amount of it it's sort of... trippy, in a way.

There's something odd about Chillin xxx. When you smoke a fair amount of it it's sort of... trippy, in a way.

Smoke enough weed and you'll be steppin as well...

What do you mean by steppin'?

Also I got pep spice twisted with those fly agarics in it... not too bad. xxx chillin is way way stronger, but I'm gonna see if I can smoke a ton of twisted and get a different feeling than xxx chillin.