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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-11-08, 19:16
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mr. benfield 
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tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
how effective do you guys thing water filtration (like a standard hand held bubbler) is at "cleaning" the smoke? does nicotine get absorbed into the water?
im asking because i need to cut back on smoking because of the health risks and i was wondering if switching from cigs to a small amount of cigarette tobacco through a metal bubbler would be worth it
i know it does filter out some things, like some tar, particulates, and a few carcinogens, but does anyone know about nicotine/other chemicals?
also, does anyone know why cig tobacco through water would taste worse than unfiltered cigs? because it does.
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#2
 2008-11-08, 19:31
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hypno 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
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Originally Posted by mr. benfield
how effective do you guys thing water filtration (like a standard hand held bubbler) is at "cleaning" the smoke? does nicotine get absorbed into the water?
im asking because i need to cut back on smoking because of the health risks and i was wondering if switching from cigs to a small amount of cigarette tobacco through a metal bubbler would be worth it
i know it does filter out some things, like some tar, particulates, and a few carcinogens, but does anyone know about nicotine/other chemicals?
also, does anyone know why cig tobacco through water would taste worse than unfiltered cigs? because it does.
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if you only want nicotine i suggest the nicotine patch... As for the taste? It's cooled down and your able to taste more than just heat and such...
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#3
 2008-11-08, 19:34
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mr. benfield 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
if you only want nicotine i suggest the nicotine patch... As for the taste? It's cooled down and your able to taste more than just heat and such...
ive chewed the gum before. i love the act of smoking (probably because i just quit smoking pot).
so i would like to continue to smoke, although make it as relatively "healthy" as possible
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#4
 2008-11-08, 19:37
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hypno 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
ive chewed the gum before. i love the act of smoking (probably because i just quit smoking pot).
so i would like to continue to smoke, although make it as relatively "healthy" as possible
vaporizer is the closest tobacco is coming to an apple.
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#5
 2008-11-08, 19:52
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mksnowboarder 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
A metal bubbler???!!! WTF, mate?
Nicotine is half the fun of smoking or more. Nicotine is water soluble. You arent receiving nicotine from the bubbler. Whats the point?
mike
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#6
 2008-11-08, 20:06
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poofeek 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
ive chewed the gum before. i love the act of smoking (probably because i just quit smoking pot).
so i would like to continue to smoke, although make it as relatively "healthy" as possible
it will save you a lot of money on tobbacco, I smoke a pack a day and when I switched to pipe tobbacco a pack of tops lasted me about a week. but I dont reccomend smoking weed out of the same pipe. plus cleaning tobbacco resin is a bitch and a half.
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#7
 2008-11-08, 20:27
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mr. benfield 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
its actually like a hand held hookah with a rubber hose and a metal downpipe. but surely ALL of the nicotine cant be absorbed, can it? and yeah, it saves a ton of money. and i wouldnt even think about using the same pipe for pot
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#8
 2008-11-08, 22:16
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
....I dare anyone with no nicotine tolerance to pack a fat bowl of tobacco in their bong. /end...
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#9
 2008-11-08, 22:27
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OPS 2A building 688-6911(b)
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
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Originally Posted by Jsmooth744
....I dare anyone with no nicotine tolerance to pack a fat bowl of tobacco in their bong. /end...
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It's been done. My mate did it. All he did was end up puking, it was hilarious.
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#10
 2008-11-08, 22:44
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Jsmooth744 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
Haha yeah me too..its too overwhelming.
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#11
 2008-11-08, 22:46
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
You are supposed to sneak people buckets or gravity bongs full of tobacco. They see it brewing yellow and think its going to be a good one.
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#12
 2008-11-08, 23:20
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
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Originally Posted by wmt9
You are supposed to sneak people buckets or gravity bongs full of tobacco. They see it brewing yellow and think its going to be a good one.
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I lol'd.
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#13
 2008-11-09, 00:31
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Bean_Doodle 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
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Originally Posted by Jsmooth744
....I dare anyone with no nicotine tolerance to pack a fat bowl of tobacco in their bong. /end...
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I have NO nicotine tolerance, I have like negative nicotine tolerance.
Meaning yesterday, when I smoked two cigarettes before school, I was feeling gooooooooooooooood :)
Fucking dope shit, cant believe this stuff is legal.
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#14
 2008-11-09, 01:18
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Smoking a bong with a kangaroo
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
I have NO nicotine tolerance, I have like negative nicotine tolerance.
Meaning yesterday, when I smoked two cigarettes before school, I was feeling gooooooooooooooood :)
Fucking dope shit, cant believe this stuff is legal.
Hahaha, you should try some meth or heroin then! :D
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#15
 2008-11-09, 20:34
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
I have NO nicotine tolerance, I have like negative nicotine tolerance.
Meaning yesterday, when I smoked two cigarettes before school, I was feeling gooooooooooooooood :)
Fucking dope shit, cant believe this stuff is legal.
hahha we got another one!
3 months from this day you wont be getting shit from cigs and you will have a pack by your side always!
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#16
 2008-11-09, 21:18
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Bean_Doodle 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
hahha we got another one!
3 months from this day you wont be getting shit from cigs and you will have a pack by your side always!
I know!:(
But! Im nigger-poor and my lungs collapse inwards after like more than 5 ciggs in one day, so Im too much of a pussy to smoke.
Yay
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#17
 2008-11-09, 22:25
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poofeek 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
I have NO nicotine tolerance, I have like negative nicotine tolerance.
Meaning yesterday, when I smoked two cigarettes before school, I was feeling gooooooooooooooood :)
Fucking dope shit, cant believe this stuff is legal.
yea, STOP NOW! I said the same thing the first time I smoked a cig, except not in such a bitch way of saying it, but still, stop now because itll be really hard later.
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#18
 2008-11-09, 23:39
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
yea, STOP NOW! I said the same thing the first time I smoked a cig, except not in such a bitch way of saying it, but still, stop now because itll be really hard later.
It's not really that difficult... You just need to break the oral fixation and then it's nothing at all to quit. I just dropped them like nothing about a month ago after smoking for a little over a decade. I must admit I do feel a little empty without that greasy feeling in my lungs.
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#19
 2008-11-10, 01:35
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jamaica0535 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
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Originally Posted by Jsmooth744
....I dare anyone with no nicotine tolerance to pack a fat bowl of tobacco in their bong. /end...
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kind of a fucked up but semi funny story my sister was telling me....
They were doing hits off the gravity bong and they call up this kid they decided to mess with, i have no idea why.... but they gut a newport out and pack it into the bowl and add a tiny amount of bud on top to cover up the tobacco.... kid take a gravity bong of newport, and then turns green and starts to puke.....
I know!:(
But! Im nigger-poor and my lungs collapse inwards after like more than 5 ciggs in one day, so Im too much of a pussy to smoke.
Yay
then your going to be smoking nigger-poor varieties of cigarettes..... Wild Horses, an off brand of an off brand at $1.60 a pack.....
and your tune will change, the lungs get enough tar in them and that will change.....
i have been smoking for a bit more than a year now.... i was recently up to a pack a day but lately im down to about half a pack....
after a few weeks the only time you will get much more than feeling like you don't need a cigarette is when you for some reason haven't smoked one for a while.... smoked a couple after work last night around midnight, came home and stayed up till 4, slept until 1:30 and dragged my ass out of bed to smoke a cigarette..... for some reason i got more of a buzz off that 1 cigarette than i have had in a long time....
and to those saying nicotine is water soluble.... what if you were to freebase it? lets make nicocrack.... bit of ammonia to freebase, and it is no longer water soluble....
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#20
 2008-11-10, 02:48
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illism 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
I have NO nicotine tolerance, I have like negative nicotine tolerance.
Meaning yesterday, when I smoked two cigarettes before school, I was feeling gooooooooooooooood :)
Fucking dope shit, cant believe this stuff is legal.
lol give it a few weeks and your gonna be like "wtf this does nothing"
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#21
 2008-11-10, 03:02
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steve-o13 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
and to those saying nicotine is water soluble.... what if you were to freebase it? lets make nicocrack.... bit of ammonia to freebase, and it is no longer water soluble....
Freebase nicotine is already in ciggs. It's something like 27x stronger/more addictive that regular nicotine.
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#22
 2008-11-10, 07:11
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Bean_Doodle 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
lol give it a few weeks and your gonna be like "wtf this does nothing"
I was like that yesterday, fucking scam 
Fuck those things
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#23
 2008-11-10, 07:49
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ristortion 
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Re: tobacco- cigarettes vs water filtration
in the end, it is better to just smoke crack
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