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Old 2008-11-08, 05:18
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butfuck egipt
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so is it possiblt i kno its nto water soluble but could i add maybe citric acid
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Old 2008-11-08, 05:31
mari juana mari juana is offline
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why would you want to shoot valium?
it has a very high bioavailability when taken orally.
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Old 2008-11-08, 05:42
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butfuck egipt
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and better iv
duh
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Old 2008-11-08, 05:48
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No real reason to shoot it unless you have pure diazapam which is easy enough to find online but if you have pills than its kinda not worth it because a vally is a big pill for 10mg worth of active, and if you do end up shooting you need alcohol and it will burn like hell.
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Old 2008-11-08, 06:40
Street_Pharmacist420 Street_Pharmacist420 is offline
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Originally Posted by hedblown
so is it possiblt i kno its nto water soluble but could i add maybe citric acid



Ampoules FTW

IMO the only benzo worth shooting is Midazolam, maybe Clonazepam if I could find it

And you sound way to fucking retarded to shoot anything, stick to popping pills dummy.
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Old 2008-11-08, 07:58
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mah compound
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Ethanol is the easiest medium to use or find, and yes hoppin, there IS a reason to shoot valium, the medical use for IV valium is general anesthesia douchebag. Look shit up before you make an ass out of yourself every time you post.
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Old 2008-11-08, 15:10
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Oral is like, 95% or something. Unless you're trying to prep yourself for operation or stop a seizure, just swallow the damn thing. No, you won't get a "rush". Just because something can be injected doesn't mean it should. God, some people just shouldn't be using needles...

At LEAST get an ampoule, as said above, if you're that adamant about doing this.
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Old 2008-11-08, 15:55
mksnowboarder mksnowboarder is offline
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I'd say around 90% bioavailability oral. Only real benefit to the needle is instant onset. Sure, benzos kick in quickly anyway compared to many drugs, but if I'm having a panic attack or feel like I might seize, I'm not in the mood to wait around. I'll usually shoot a single dose of whatever benzo I have on hand, then take more orally as needed after the initial threat has been resolved.

Something like 50% hard liquor 50% water should work, filter well. I cant remember exactly what ratio I had when using bartons to shoot my kpins and ativan.

The burn isnt really that severe, actually. Guess it'd hurt with stronger liquor or a higher alcohol to water ratio.

Fucked up thing, first time I ever shot a benzo, it was 2mg ativan in the bartons - water solution. I shot it, pulled the needle out, and blood began pouring out the hole. I have never before or since seen that happen to me or anyone else.

mike
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Old 2008-11-08, 23:16
cRoN_ICE2 cRoN_ICE2 is offline
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I've done it and it's not at all worth it. Same effect, just happens fast. No rush or anything either.

You want ~20% alcohol IIRC, anything more will burn and fuck your vein. I used rubbing alcohol since i was sure of its sterility.

The only good thing about it is that if you miss the vein, you will know instantly from the pain.
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Old 2008-11-08, 23:22
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mah compound
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Originally Posted by cRoN_ICE2
I've done it and it's not at all worth it. Same effect, just happens fast. No rush or anything either.

You want ~20% alcohol IIRC, anything more will burn and fuck your vein. I used rubbing alcohol since i was sure of its sterility.

The only good thing about it is that if you miss the vein, you will know instantly from the pain.

That is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Injecting isopropyl alcohol into the blood stream? WTF?
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Old 2008-11-09, 02:03
HeavyMetal420 HeavyMetal420 is offline
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Rubbing alcohol seems like a really bad idea. Use vodka or everclear. If hardcore alcoholics can do it without killin themsleves,(at least not too fast),so can you.
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Old 2008-11-09, 04:06
cRoN_ICE2 cRoN_ICE2 is offline
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It's just 0.2ml of it, not going to make you go blind.
 
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