With a local 17 year old girl. She is way hot. like 9 or 10. If I was in high school I'd have to be one of the really popular guys to date her.

So I guess basically I'm a little bit worried about the whole situation. I'm pretty attractive but I don't feel as attractive as her so I'm kind of self conscious about the whole thing. I'm worried that I won't have anything to say and she'll think I'm totally lame and boring. I'm worried she'll ask me questions and I won't know how to answer. I'm worried her friends will think I'm a piece of shit for trying to get on their 17 year old friend.

Anyway, I haven't been on an actual somewhat structured date since my last serious girlfriend and I'm nervous about the fact that I kind of have to perform. I have to come off as someone who's attractive, has a good sense of humor, has interesting things to say, and can talk about themselves and I'm worried my shyness will inhibit this.

I'm basically begging for any advice or words of wisdom on how to keep her interested. Oh and she told me she really wanted to go out tonight and gave me her number yesterday. I actually still have to call her. I was thinking of doing it around four.

ok well she said SHE wanted to go out, and she gave you her number. So remember this, no matter what happens on the date.

Get this into your head, shes just some dumb chick like any other lol. What you want to do is be playful and poke fun at her lightly, say she looks a bit tired and then she will get self-conscious and start being shy, use this to your advantage.

Take the lead with everything you do, walk slightly ahead of her and hold her hand. Act slightly cold and distant and when she talks to you don't look in her eyes just kind of look around like your bored.

Be the older guy. It's not exactly hard. Most higschool age girls will bow down to you just because you're out of school and on a date with them. Even if they don't do it physically, they're adoring you somewhere in their head. Remember this and you'll be fine.

I'm about to go meet her. Sincere thanks to the two fucking people that responded to my thread in the four hours since I posted it.

This forum is worthless as hell.

Usually depends what time you post and what your post is.

This forum is worthless as hell.

If that is the way you feel, then your solution is simple: Don't post here any more.

If you were a regular 'observer' of this forum, you would already have the answer. Strange, unusual, or peculiar posts tend to get the most responses, or the quickest ones. (but please don't exagerate to the point of trolling, because that never really works very well either.

What you described is pretty much the "OMG what should I do" thread that, quite appropriately responds with an overwhelming and mindless "just go for it" reply.

Maybe there should be a sticky along these lines if the Mods think it would help folks like you at all... I dunno???

Edit: It would really help a LOT if you made some mention of your age. You made it very clear that she is 17, but we have no clue if you are 12 or 34. I still do not know why, but that seems to make a BIG difference to some of us on here.

If that is the way you feel, then your solution is simple: Don't post here any more.

If you were a regular 'observer' of this forum, you would already have the answer. Strange, unusual, or peculiar posts tend to get the most responses, or the quickest ones. (but please don't exagerate to the point of trolling, because that never really works very well either.

What you described is pretty much the "OMG what should I do" thread that, quite appropriately responds with an overwhelming and mindless "just go for it" reply.

Maybe there should be a sticky along these lines if the Mods think it would help folks like you at all... I dunno???

Edit: It would really help a LOT if you made some mention of your age. You made it very clear that she is 17, but we have no clue if you are 12 or 34. I still do not know why, but that seems to make a BIG difference to some of us on here.

You're right about my age. Somehow I didn't mention that I just turned 21.

At the same time though I would think that my problem should illicit the question of my age faster than my complaint about the forum.

Anyway, I went on the date. This girl is really beautiful. She's not hands down the most attractive girl that I've been with but she's easily in the running.

I met her at a local coffee shop and at first it was a little awkward. after about 20 minutes she asked if I wanted to go back to my place and watch a movie. Not just any movie but a complete chic flic(the notebook). I agreed. I kind of assumed she just wanted to make out with me. After the movie started she asked me if i was comfortable.

I replied that she should come sit next to me. She cuddled up to me and I had my left arm around her. Then I softly put my right arm on hers and she actually said that it made her uncomfortable because she barely knew me.

This confused me. After that we sat like we were for about five minutes and she told me that she wanted to go home because she was really tired.

Naturally my thoughts were that she decided she wasn't interested in me and she wanted to end the date. So I played it cool. I picked up my phone and called my friend who was having a big party in Davenport which is a long ass drive away(like two and a half hours at least). I already knew I wasn't about to make the drive but I played like I had more exciting stuff to do anyway.

Then when we left and I was driving her home she apparently changed her mind and said she wanted to drink. I said I was completely cool but made her promise she wasn't using me to get her 17 year old skinny ass alocohol.

This is where the date started going well. We got the alcohol and went back to her place. Her mom was really nice to me and she seemed like she liked me. I also met one of her brothers. He's 19 and we got along completely fine. Actually he seemed way cool. He came up and drank a little bit with us.

Then the date started going bad again. She started telling me about herself and I found out that she was basically the typical girl that I've been finding myself with lately. She takes anti depressants, she's on juvenile tracking for dui, and she has an ex boyfriend that she's still attached to.

Her ex boyfriend called her a couple times and eventuallly I took the phone and told him that he was a faggot and to stop calling her or I would beat the fuck out of him. I've got two years on him and I work out pretty often. Also I've been somewhat jaded towards violence.

She then left the room and I heard her say to her mom ". . . but I love him."

and then I heard her mom say "tell him you're on a date. If you play hardball he'll come back to you."

So she comes back in and I say to her, "are you just using me to make your ex jealous?"

She swore that she isn't. To be honest I don't give a fuck I just don't want to play the games. I said that I would be more than happy to play the other guy but she couldn't lie to me and that if her ex came after me I would mercilessly beat him. I exaggerated my abilities a little bit but she's 17 so she thought I was tough.

Anyway she swore that she really liked me and that she was trying to get over her ex.

After that she cuddled up to me and started making out with me. Then her phone vibrated and she asked if I would be offended if I asked her to leave because her tracker was coming over.

I said I didn't care she walked me downstairs, kissed me, and I left.

Now I'm home. I sent her a text saying goodnight to which she didn't respond but it wasn't like a question so I guess she wasn't really obligated to.

I'm not nervous anymore but I'm confused as hell. I just want to talk to some people. So please give me a little bit of help and pity. You can even be really condescending about it.

Seriously, the guy who wrote I'm hung like a horse and then the thread just said srsly got more responses than me

also she just called me and was like what's up?

me, "nothing I'm back home now. Did your tracker ever come by"

"yeah he did.?

"did everything work out?"

"yeah it was fine. Hey I'm gonna take a shit can I call you back in a minute."

"I don't care you know you called me right?"

"yeah talk to you in a second."

I really feel like she's lying to me. I think her ex probably came by after I left. I wouldn't even give a shit. I'd be more than happy fucking some incredibly sexy 17 year old behind her boyfriends back and I told her that, but I really feel like she might just be using me to get back at him.

Like I said I could really use some advice. I know this isn't well written. I'm kind of drunk and this is a rough draft at best but it's fucking totse so who cares.

edit: I swear to god that her house smelled like meth. She swore up and down there way no way though. I just feel really fucking used about the whole thing.

you seem to say " i dont care" quite a bit, your over using it to the point where it doesnt have any value. other than that dump the bitch. what are you doing dating a girl in high school anyway?

she told you she was going to take a shit and you just had your first date?

classy.

Quit while you're only behind a little bit.

Seriously though, she sounds like a top quality girl...

If you want a relationship and you have to ask what to do then go drown yourself.

But if you just wanna fuck some hot younger girl then go for it. Just make sure you don't start to get emotionally attached, because she likely won't want to be with you alone. Even if she did dump her boyfriend for you I'm sure you would wonder who she is with and what she is doing all the time.

Oh, and don't piss her off if you live somewhere where the age of consent is 18.

Age of consent is sixteen in Iowa. Trust me I know :). I know that logically I should not bother with this girl but she is fucking beautiful. I'm extremely taken with her. I haven't had a girl that I was interested in since my ex girlfriend dumped me over a year ago.

Oh shit, someone else from Iowa? Whereabouts?

I gotta say, she sounds like a waste of oxygen. Fuck her in the ass then run for the hills.

lol i have to take a shit right after the first date...
FUCKIN BEAT

How fucking trashy is that shit. The last thing she said to me was I have to shit. I'll call you back.

And I'm living in Fairfield, Iowa. I just moved here from Iowa City where I was born and raised. Where are you?

Living in Iowa I imagine you'll actually get my name.

I'm living in davenport currently. Born and raised here.

Do we really need to say it?

How fucking trashy is that shit. The last thing she said to me was I have to shit. I'll call you back.

And I'm living in Fairfield, Iowa. I just moved here from Iowa City where I was born and raised. Where are you?

Living in Iowa I imagine you'll actually get my name.

i live in california man.
dude its not worth chasing after that girl,
just move on as sad as it is.....
a girl saying i need to shit right after the first date is as low as people who spit in others faces.
plain and simple there are tons of other fishes in the sea =p

You're dating a myspace whore.
Let's look act the facts:

She's fucking seventeen
She's in highschool
She takes anti-depressants
She has a juvenile record
She's a trashy girl who uses you for alcohol, loves another guy, smokes or manufactures meth, and talks to you about her fecal activities.

Fuck finding a meaningful relationship in this girl, you won't. The only thing you can look forward to is a sexual one, and a degrading one at that. Use her for dirty sex and as an emotional punching bag and nothing more.

i live in california man.
dude its not worth chasing after that girl,
just move on as sad as it is.....
a girl saying i need to shit right after the first date is as low as people who spit in others faces.
plain and simple there are tons of other fishes in the sea =p

You're so right that it makes my face hurt. She told me that she wanted to see me tonight but when I called her she didn't answer. I'm not gonna call her again but if she calls me I don't see myself turning her down.

You're so right that it makes my face hurt. She told me that she wanted to see me tonight but when I called her she didn't answer. I'm not gonna call her again but if she calls me I don't see myself turning her down.

Dignity ftw.

this is what i was thinking..

this is what i was thinking..

Me too. I had to reread that part cause I thought I imagined it. What the fuck?

She's 17 and immature. She's hung up on her ex, who is still calling her. This whole scenario has fail written all over it, but if you can fuck her then do it. Just do not for any reason whatsoever get attached to this girl. Don't act attached. Don't act clingy, and definitely wait for her to call you back before you call again. Don't text her at all either.

Also, did her mom who just met you realize you bought her 17 year old daughter alcohol and were proceeding to drink it alone with her in her room? This is a big what the fuck.

Seriously, this shit could only happen to a totse member.

Me too. I had to reread that part cause I thought I imagined it. What the fuck?

She's 17 and immature. She's hung up on her ex, who is still calling her. This whole scenario has fail written all over it, but if you can fuck her then do it. Just do not for any reason whatsoever get attached to this girl. Don't act attached. Don't act clingy, and definitely wait for her to call you back before you call again. Don't text her at all either.

Also, did her mom who just met you realize you bought her 17 year old daughter alcohol and were proceeding to drink it alone with her in her room? This is a big what the fuck.

Seriously, this shit could only happen to a totse member.

I'm actually a little bit in the grey about that part. At first she was really secretive about the alcohol, but then she started being like oh it doesn't matter she doesn't care and all this stuff.

Her mom seemed fucked in the head too. I don't remember if I said this already, but after her boyfriend called I heard her in the hall crying to her mom about it and her mom's exact words were "tell him you're on a date. Play hardball and he'll come back to you."

I'm actually a little bit in the grey about that part. At first she was really secretive about the alcohol, but then she started being like oh it doesn't matter she doesn't care and all this stuff.

Her mom seemed fucked in the head too. I don't remember if I said this already, but after her boyfriend called I heard her in the hall crying to her mom about it and her mom's exact words were "tell him you're on a date. Play hardball and he'll come back to you."

Yeah that's really weird about the alcohol. I guess if you add that to the whole "tell him you're on a date..." the result is that her mom is telling her to use you to get her ex boyfriend jealous so he'll come back to her. It's typical high school bullshit, but really fucking odd because her mom should not be acting like that. I imagine she's the reason you smelled meth.

I'd say get out totally, but this is pretty interesting shit. You have to stick it out and see where it goes, even if it's just for the lulz. This girl is obviously as fucked in the head as her mom.

I'll at least stick with it until I get some pictures to show you guys

good man.