Anybody got any information on this stuff? Got a few pills of them and know that they are some kind of amphetamines...but i'm not sure how potent they are or what dose makes for a good amp. They are 30mg pills,

Thanks in advance

just do not snort them

They are, in a sense, the same active ingredient as adderall. The difference is that the d-amp is locked up in the chemical structure so that it is ineffetive until it reacts with your stomch acid and releases the amps.

So, when you eat it its the same as taking adderall, and when you snort it nothing happens.

It's the same as Dexedrine, actually. I mean, there's dexamp IN Adderall, but Vyvanse is straight dexamp once metabolised/converted etc.

Supposedly lasts like 12 hours.

It's the same as Dexedrine, actually. I mean, there's dexamp IN Adderall, but Vyvanse is straight dexamp once metabolised/converted etc.

Supposedly lasts like 12 hours.

Yea, it does....i took like 120 mg of it last night and i didn't sleep a wink...and now my pupils are the size of melons...

Im pretty sure you cant crush them up either. But theres a thread awhile back that explains how to do some fancy shit so you can snort them.

right on, thanks man

Shit, 1 50mg keeps me speeding for 12+ hours easy. I took one monday at 8 or 9 in the morning and stayed up all night cause i couldn't sleep, then took another 50mg at about the same time the next day. Also, serious appetite suppression, to the point of disgust.... uh, other than that, I'm super smart/eloquent on it and kick ass at counterstrike.

A drug that heightens your degree of eloquence -bizarre.

I love vyvanse.I get them off my little cousin after they gave it to him because he couldn't stand adderall.I take the powder out of the time release capsule 30mg and take it all at once,I love it.Actually to be quite honest they say it's supposed to be less 'addictive' as adderall but im getting pretty addicted.
Matter of fact,ill take some in the morning and setup a appointment to get prescribed some.

Vyvanse is chemically time released dexamphetamine (it takes time for your body to metabolize the lysine group). Taking it out of the cap does nothing to help it.

But theres a thread awhile back that explains how to do some fancy shit so you can snort them.

An A/B extraction is not "fancy shit".

I know it does nothing,I just take it out of the cap because he will notice if he's missing pills,lmao.He can't tell if the powder's out of it though because theyre not opaque,fuck it he doesn't need them anyways;placebo.
I was thinking though,by consuming them without the cap does it lessen the effect?Would I be better parachuting it or something?

How would taking it out of the cap even remotely lessen the effect? Caps are merely convenient storage mediums for medicines, unless the cap has a special delivery system in it ala wax coated ritalin (xr). Anyway, no, the cap isn't special with vyvanse.

I mean as in,people said don't snort it because it is only broken down in your stomach or some shit.I thought maybe if it dissolves in your mouth it might have a lesser effect than having it all dissolve inside the stomach.Oh well.

Vyvanse is dextroamp with a lysine group attached. To turn it into pure dextroamp, it is NOT a simple a/b extraction, so please know what you are talking about before trying to make others look stupid. The way the time release works isnt the capsule, but the stomach and intestinal enzymes, specifically trypsin, which cleaves that lysine group. A very crude extraction without proper reagents and labware will get you pretty low yields so yea, it's pretty "prodrug" and most ppl looking to snort or make it release faster are SOL. It does go extremely well with over-the-counter cimetidine (Tagamet). 400mg cimetidine and 50mg vyvanse taken at the same time will get you speedin for a good 10 hours (almost a constant peak). After that, your comedown won't be very bad at all but you won't sleep for another 5 hours.

Awesome info,thanks for letting us know.
1 more Q,is there any other pill's like it besides Adderall,I mean as in the same category of amps?

it can be converted to dextroamphetamine by reflux in a strong acid or base. there are a thousand topics on this, do some research. really all you need to know is reflux in a strong acid or base. that is all the information that will be provided. sorry, no chemistry lectures this time around.

If by amps you mean stimulants than there are quite a few of them. ya know...caffeine, amphetamines, mdma, cocaine, NPDRI's (or NDRI's, cant remember what they use), and even nicotine is a stimulant...

But the class of drugs that adderall is in is the amphetamine group. Ritalin, Dexedrine, Meth, etc.

Thanks for all your help guys. I tried the "simple" hydrolysis...and they work just fine taking the capsule, lol.

can't metabolize by snorting it.

eating it works just fine though. take 1 for ur first time to feel good

take 2 the second time so u can experience the good high it gives
i prefer it over adderall / ritalin anyday, no harsh comedown either

I agree completely, accept for the fact that I have to take it as soon as I get up, because even after I "come down" I still have a few hours before I can even think about sleeping/eating.

He can't tell if the powder's out of it though because theyre not opaque

You mean they're not transparent.

But the class of drugs that adderall is in is the amphetamine group. Ritalin, Dexedrine, Meth, etc.

Ritalin is not an amphetamine. Ritalin isn't even a phenethylamine; it's based on the piperidine structure.

It just so happens to have a high affinity for many of the same receptors as the amphetamines.

reflux in an acid to cleave off the amino.....

basically do what your stomach does, only not in the stomach....

ive never seen them are they a solid pill or capsule or what?

in any case, grind them up, put in a glass dish, add some muriatic acid and let it evaporate off.... add some more muriatic, let evaporate off again.... you will be left with dextro amphetamine that is snortable after you use the acid to cleave off the amino....

muriatic acid is available at hardware stores, look in the pool department... its hydrochloric acid, the same acid in your stomach....

I was prescribed 30mg Capsules of Vyvanse. But right now i'm "trading for money" 25mg capsules of Adderal. Which one will i get more money from?


Also, i snort Vyvance before school and i find that it doesn't give me the bad side effects that taking it orally gives me.

Maybe because it dont work like that ^

Snorting it is super wasteful

i realize that now. but doesnt the sludge it makes that i feel dropping down the back of my throat do something?
cause i know i feel something


and what about my other question?

its probably just the drip your getting, because it probably has a nearly 0% bioavailability in the lungs....

Adderal would be easier to sell...

Lol, that's why his name is Brainrock.

you're trading 30 mg vyvanse for 25 mg addy? If that's what you're doing then do that!

its probably just the drip your getting, because it probably has a nearly 0% bioavailability in the lungs....

Adderal would be easier to sell...

How does what he said have anything to do with lungs? When you snort things it does not go into your lungs, it is absorbed by your mucus membrane in your sinuses. So much idiocy in this thread.

i loled at that 2^

well i still need a straight answer. i know it would be easier to sell adderall but can i get more money from selling vyvance?

Not likely, infact you will most likely make less money because less people will want them and those that do buy them won't want to pay as much. Unless the vyvance is significantly cheaper for you than the adderall for some reason, which I don't see happening being newer if anything it would be more expensive.

Apparently if you take a lot of them you can hallucinate, but i have never tried it. I took like 120-150 once but it didnt really do anything.

Apparently if you take a lot of them you can hallucinate, but i have never tried it.

Wanna hallucinate? Go stay awake for about six days on a Vyvanse binge.

Hallucinations aren't always a good thing, guys...

25 mg of adderall contains several times more amphetamine salts than a 30mg vyvanse.
According to oral abuse case-studies, it took 150mg of vyvanse to equal the euphoria obtained from 40mg of pure dextroamphetamine.

This pretty much states that it would take 5 of your vyvanse to even approach the effect of 2 crushed adderall.

Vyvanse does have a %50 longer duration for peaked exposure (best part of high), but speaking from experience, 5 25mg adderall would give a longer lasting high than 5 vyvanse.

So unless you're planning on telling people that mg for mg their going to get the same bang for their buck....and still have repeat customers...selling addy is going to be your best bet.
And beside, once teh kidiots you sell to realize that what their buying is made to prevent abuse, you're gonna be out customers.

All this info was attained here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisdexamfetamine

Not likely, infact you will most likely make less money because less people will want them and those that do buy them won't want to pay as much. Unless the vyvance is significantly cheaper for you than the adderall for some reason, which I don't see happening being newer if anything it would be more expensive.

i dont pay for them my parents do and im not selling it to intelligent people like you guys. im selling to high school students

i got 50's, if you snort half or more of the powder, it only makes you nocturnal, if you eat 2,3 or 4 you'll probly be fucked, a single 30 used to turn my wheels for a half hour or so.

Ah good ol Vyvanse. I actually saw some frat guys opening the capsules and snorting it the other day... just shook my head and walked away.

but yeah dude, take the addy over the vyvanse any day. especially since the asshats over at Shire pharm. are trying to phase out adderall in favor of this stuff. They even tried to rewrite my brother's script...

but yeah dude, take the addy over the vyvanse any day. especially since the asshats over at Shire pharm. are trying to phase out adderall in favor of this stuff. They even tried to rewrite my brother's script...

They're trying to rewrite everyone's script. Just do what I did and bitch about it being so expensive because there aren't any generics. Won't work if you take Adderall XR as it is but it'll sure work when you take IR and pay $5 a month while Vyvanse is likely $100+.

Just take it orally, but take more. I've taken 200-250mg at once before, and it tweaked me the fuck out. I"m on 100mg right now.

After refluxing in acid, how would one separate the gunk from the dope? When you lyse the amino off, it doesn't just dissappear. Plus, the stuff was probably lysed with the pill binders and junk. After getting rid of the H2O (and with it most of the HCl) would it be as simple as an A/B after that or would there need to be some rxtalisation?

I do the same thing when I want to take a half-dose of mine. I don't know how much it would be lessened by taking the powder straight [orally] but I get the impression that whatever absorbs into the mouth tissue is basically lost/ineffective. After all some post nasal drip from usually makes it to the stomach but not enough to effect you much.