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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-11-05, 19:13
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CWE On 40 mg Oxycodone's That Gel Up
So I have acquired some 40 mg oxycodone pills that gel up when insulfated. They gel up like Tevas (footballs) though not quite as bad as Teva's do. They are of the controlled release brand and can be viewed here: http://www.pharmer.org/node/12940
Now I am wondering if a CWE (like one would do with Vicodin or Percocet) is possible with these? However I want the end result to be powdered oxycodone that can be insulfated. Also, does any oxycodone get lost during a CWE? If not in a normal CWE would any get lost if a CWE was done on these? I would also like a link to a proper CWE procedure that someone here has tested, and would need to know the steps I would have to take afterward to get the oxycodone powder from the water solution (if this is even possible)
Yes I have already thought about just crushing them up and parachuting, which I have already done with two of them. However I don't want my meals to be centered around when I take my oxycodone, which they would have to be to ensure an empty stomach, which is why I would like to produce a powdered form that wont gel up. Basically I just need to remove the stuff that makes them gel up, doesn't matter to me what process I need to undertake. Thanks in advance guys.
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#2
 2008-11-05, 21:47
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Re: CWE On 40 mg Oxycodone's That Gel Up
Thanks for all the help!
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#3
 2008-11-05, 21:56
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Aces N 8S 
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Re: CWE On 40 mg Oxycodone's That Gel Up
A CWE is only intended to seperate out the APAP. Since your pills have no APAP in them you cant even do a CWE.
I have heard a few ways of defeating the gel mechanism. But none of those leave you with a powder oxycodone. At best you'll get a solution that you can drink to make your OC into IR.
thats why no one likes the ones that gel, cause its almost impossible to get a powder out of them.
You could try panthrax's website. Under his tek for turning MsContin into heroin he discusses a way to defeat the gel matrix, but im not sure if it would work on your particular brand of OC.
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#4
 2008-11-06, 00:27
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Re: CWE On 40 mg Oxycodone's That Gel Up
You could try panthrax's website. Under his tek for turning MsContin into heroin he discusses a way to defeat the gel matrix, but im not sure if it would work on your particular brand of OC.
You mean this?:
"If you have ever tried to inject the new time released opiate pills like MS contin or OxyContin you probably know that its damn near impossible to get more than usually 25 % using just plain old water and sometimes you cant get any sad.gif . So if you would like to get the dope free of all the gack in the pills this procedure should work. Using this procedure will work for pretty much all the problematic shit in most pills, like hydroxypropyl and methyl cellulose, talc, ethylene glycol etc etc. Once again this procedure is for MS CONTIN, and other time release opiate pills only. If you have morphine sulphate, all you need to do is get rid of the sulphate, that procedure is listed below.
So heres a step by step easy as shit way..."
From: http://www.panthrax.host.sk/heroin_make.html
You can also try this: http://www.panthrax.host.sk/oxyext.html
Warning: This method uses hot water which, in my eyes, degrades your oxy somewhat (or alot).
Peace.
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#5
 2008-11-06, 01:51
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Re: CWE On 40 mg Oxycodone's That Gel Up
you sir need a lesson in crisping...
which, sense you want firsthand knowledge, i'd suggest doing a search. unless 617 strolls on in from junkland...
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#6
 2008-11-06, 02:28
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dummy 
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Re: CWE On 40 mg Oxycodone's That Gel Up
op, i love your sn
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#7
 2008-11-06, 02:45
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Aces N 8S 
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Re: CWE On 40 mg Oxycodone's That Gel Up
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Originally Posted by vilbe
you sir need a lesson in crisping...
which, sense you want firsthand knowledge, i'd suggest doing a search. unless 617 strolls on in from junkland...
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I didnt even think of that.
Yeah, what Doc quoted was what i was fererring to, but crisping will work much better for your intentions.
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#8
 2008-11-06, 08:12
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Re: CWE On 40 mg Oxycodone's That Gel Up
you sir need a lesson in crisping...
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#9
 2008-11-06, 12:43
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FullMetalJacket 
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Re: CWE On 40 mg Oxycodone's That Gel Up
oh lawd is dat sum methyl cellulose?
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