does anybody know this? isn't the only active ingredient in all of that shit alcohol and nothing more? why is it then that tequila fucks you up CLEARLY more than vodka or whiskey (I know maybe not for EVERYONE). the only thing i can think of is maybe it's less viscous and the rate of alcohol absorbtion is different? any clues?

Possibly because people expect Tequila to fuck them up more, and thus it does, sort of like a placebo effect I guess.

I love Tequila.

i never got this, or at least never noticed it.

i only ever notice a real difference between beer and vodka; and even then I only really feel a difference in hangover. I get less of a hangover with vodka, probably cause its made to be "pure" with no flavor or adulterants.

I know EXACTLY what you mean. For instance, a drunk off Hennessy or Crown Royal is way more clear than a drunk off E&J or Christian Brothers.

And a drunk off Gray Goose is a clearer drunk than Taaka...etc. etc.

And then a beer drunk is different than a wine drunk is different than a champagne drunk is different than a hard alcohol drunk.

As to why that is, I have no idea.

Hangover seems to be only difference other than the speed that I can drink vodva versus cider.

Beer is brewed from hops, so it provides a more sedating effect than Vodka or whiskey would. Beyond that, I'm not sure the difference between vodka or gin, etc.....

It's possible that there are other closely related compounds besides ethanol present in different amounts in different beverages and they lead to minor differences in effects. I've read that the different byproducts of the fermentation process will effect the severity of a hangover, I would imagine this would also be true for the buzz.

Absinthe.
You get so drunk it looks like your hallucinating.
Drink this while smoking bud !
i think its illegal in alot of states in the US

you sir, are an idiot.
you dont get "so drunk it looks like your hallucinating"

PROTIP: Its all in your head.

you sir, are an idiot.
you dont get "so drunk it looks like your hallucinating"

i know what i saw.
This was not the same kind of drunk as everything else.

Fuck you i hope you die faggot.

since your nickname is '' sabian '' im guessing your a drummer?
You probably suck ass at drums.

jowie your a dumb faggot

i know what i saw.
This was not the same kind of drunk as everything else.

Fuck you i hope you die faggot.

since your nickname is '' sabian '' im guessing your a drummer?
You probably suck ass at drums.

strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause

Vodka - made from patatoes
Whiskey - Grains
Tequila - Agave plants

Most Liquors are made from different grains and plants thus different taste and effect

You DO understand that the active ingredient is alcohol.

Of which there is only one kind (not in the sense of the homologous series of alcohols)

RIIIIGGGHHHT?

yes but their is other shit in liquors other than alchy

Not active shit. Least not in amounts that would actually cause you to feel anything different.

In my experience, the only thing that has affected the way I get drunk is my mindset & my expectations.

The other shit (chemicals compounds) just causes hangovers & sich.

Well i dont know then i fail me sorry *kills self*

Obviously the type of buzz you get from a fruit cooler is going to be the barely existing type, the type from beer is a gassy, sedating, and diuretic type, and the type from vodka is the strong, burning, pass out, or puke then pass out type of buzz, and the type from eating brandy chocolates is a really warm and less sedating since chocolate is a stimulant.
Clearly no one here did their pre-requisite homework.

I can't really get as drunk as I want to with beer.. I end up feeling so sick.. my favorite drunk is Everclear, it's really weird, I am hammered as fuck but driving perfectly and it never gives me a hangover no matter how trashed i get.

... I am hammered as fuck but driving perfectly...

Isn't that why everyone drives while drunk? LOL
I dare you to sit in the passenger seat, sober, while someone in that state drives you home. Its not as scary as it is thrilling in the middle of the night when there's no one else on the road. Just make it a drinking game to see if the driver notices that the light is red can hit the breaks before driving over the crosswalk lines, if the light is green and he can hit the gas before the light turns red again, and if he remembers to take that left at Albuquerque. Every time he screws up give him a shot.

Isn't that why everyone drives while drunk? LOL
I dare you to sit in the passenger seat, sober, while someone in that state drives you home. Its not as scary as it is thrilling in the middle of the night when there's no one else on the road. Just make it a drinking game to see if the driver notices that the light is red can hit the breaks before driving over the crosswalk lines, if the light is green and he can hit the gas before the light turns red again, and if he remembers to take that left at Albuquerque. Every time he screws up give him a shot.

hahahaha.

Double shots for spilling a shot. Double shots for missing double red lights, double green lights, and both lefts at Albuquerque.

The alcohol is made by fermenting these different ingredients, so different ingredients = different effects

I refuse to drink anything besides whiskey anymore, and on that note, the hangover achieved from drinking an entire fifth of Evan Williams Black Label over the course of an hour was very likely the most miserable five hours of my life.

the chemicals that make dark liquors (whiskey, brandy, etc) that colour are the same ones that make you sick and hungover after drinking, as opposed to clear liquors such as vodka (im not too sure about they other ones). perhaps these chemicals cause the effects of different alcoholic drinks to be different.

vodka ftw, lets face it all hard alchol tastes like shit anyway, might as well drink the one that goes down the smoothest and has the least amount of toxins in it.

Research- "Self Fulfilling Prophecy"

Research- "Self Fulfilling Prophecy"

I know what a self fulfilling prophecy is. What's your point?

Any one notice a different buzz from jagermister

In a book i read the dudes in the red hot chill peppers said that on the road when they couldnt get heroin they would drink a bunch of jagermister because it was the closest to the high of heroin they could get

And i was like whoa that cant be true its fucking liquor

vodka ftw, lets face it all hard alchol tastes like shit anyway...

Not all of us have palettes like a horse's ass. If all you've been drinking is Jim Beam White Label, Jose Cuervo Gold and Beefeater Gin, then yeah, you're going to assume all liquor tastes like shit. Once you grow up a bit you'll develop a more refined sense of taste. Until then, save your money and buy a dirty 30 of Pabst for $12.

Oh, and Jager is nothing but a pop-culture type drink; it's only 70 proof, for God's sake! I'm sure I'm biased because I despise black licorice but I think way too many frat boys order a "shot of Jager" just because it makes them look hip and edgy. Fuck it, pour me a triple Elijah Craig and skip the B.S.

I drink this shit called black 100

Tastes just like jag but its 100 proof

And half the price

If i had 2 shot glasses and had jagermister and black 100 i bet no 1 could even tell witch one was the expensive jager

What kind of liquor is it, exactly?

And somewhat off topic but somewhat related....wtf is with "Jose Cuervo Black"? Mixed with coke?! Get that shit outta here.

well as someone said previously beer could give a different effect than other alcohols because it is made from hops which is or at least can be a psycho active substance, but im pretty sure it is not active in beer.

Alos the man who mentioned absithe is correct ( although he is a fagget) becaseu it has wormwood in it which is psycho active. Other than that all i can think of is the potency of the alcohol relative to the intake.

Generally it takes longer to drink beer which is weaker hence a more drawn out drunkeness that is weaker and lasts longer as opposed to that get fucked up pass out on the floor feeling from doing 5 shots in a row?

i have definitly noticed (and im not a seasoned drinker, i just prefer weed tbh and im a non-social person so im not into "party_drugs") that there is that drawn out clearer headed drunkeness which is in a way in between full drunkeness and intoxicated and then theres that fully smashed fully disinhibited drunkennes (and of course after that theres that cant remember what happened after a certain point last night why am i in hospital drunk)

What kind of liquor is it, exactly?

A.

i dont even know its exactly like jagermister

sayson the back how this prouduct is a result of the blending of quality ingredients by experienced chemists

herbal liqueur i hate black licorice to but honestly it is not that bad for 100 proof, it could pass for 70 proof jager

Alos the man who mentioned absithe is correct ( although he is a fagget) becaseu it has wormwood in it which is psycho active. Other than that all i can think of is the potency of the alcohol relative to the intake.

There isn't enough wormwood in there for it to have any real effect, and a lot of the modern day absinthe is a disgrace to the very name absinthe; some don't have any wormwood at all.

black liquorish liquor still sucks...


man, the OP's tinfoil hat must of fallen off, alcohol's alcohol dude. the response to different liquors is psychological, ala placebo..

Because you an idiot/ noob drinker, ethanol is ethanol and is the active compound in all types of common alchohol and therefore produces the same effects

I don't know I do notice a more uplifting and happy drunk associated with wine as opposed to beer or liquor.

the girls end up being a lot more horny i notice off wine as well;)

It's Thujone that supposedly gives Absinthe it's psycho-active properties actually...

But it seems like bullshit to be honest.

I have always ripped on people who give the whole different alcohol equals different buzz arguement.

did you ever think that you consume different amounts of alcohol over different durations of time and have different experiences each time you get drunk?

I guarantee you if tonight you have 6 shots of cheap vodka in two hours then watch TV, and tomorrow you have six shots of cheap whiskey in two hours and watch TV you wont notice any difference.

That being said I have noticed some weird differences.

BEER

beer has hops which are slightly psychoactive. All I notice is alcohol if drink some cheap 211 or something, But I do get a better buzz from good dark beers or especially IPAs.

VODKA

for whatever reason (probably medical) I can not drink any more than 2 shots without ending up in bed with disabling stomach pains for the rest of the night. doesn't matter if it is bartons or grey goose

It's Thujone that gives Absinthe it's psycho-active properties actually...
Absinthe contains very little thujone and has no psychoactive properties aside from those of any other alcohol.

Nice overview. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absinthe#Effects_of_absinthe)

self-fulfilling prophecy.

@OP - The variation in "strength" is all psychological/behavioral. Taste and smell can influence you to drink more/less, along with what Xandre was saying. I'm pretty certain that if you were to do a controlled experiment using a blood test ,a way to control tolerance and a graduated shotglass, you would find that equal volumes of equal 40% [EtOH] will yield the same blood alcohol.

You may say that alcohol is the only active ingredient in alcoholic drinks, but your forgetting that other ingredients may change the deliverance of the alcohol to the bloodstream.

Goldschlager, for instance. Has those little flakes of gold that cut little slices in your esophagus.

Mixed drinks, or generally very sugary drinks help you get drunk faster, because the sugar allows the alcohol to reach the blood faster, and the same with diet coke.

Think about beer, it's only 5-8% alcohol. So, that leaves room for a lot of other things to give the beer color and flavour. Those ingredients would most likely have an effect on the drunkenness achieved.
It's the same thing with wine.

I think people are downplaying the effects of the other ingredients in types of alcohol, and up playing the placebo effect. I mean, there is no difference between gin and vodka in terms of drunkenness. But there is definitely a difference between getting hammered on beer and getting hammered on vodka.

Some gets you faster then others, thats probably why you notice different effects.

the volatile oils from the fermented fruits contribute to the mental confusion

also, when aging spirits the alcohol becomes buffered and this changes absorption rate

and the flavor itself changes a degree of how your brain expects to feel

Haha I never knew that. Now that I think about it it's true, Jager always makes me really happy and sedated unlike things like tequila which make me energized and confident. Maybe just mindset but doesn't seem like it.

Goldschlager, for instance. Has those little flakes of gold that cut little slices in your esophagus.
I'm fairly certain that's not true.

I'm drawn between mind-over-matter and blood-alcohol apsortion rate for effects or something.

Methinks congeners are responsible for different hangovers.

Meh

/contribution

Goldschlager, for instance. Has those little flakes of gold that cut little slices in your esophagus.

Yeah, and if you drink Diet Coke with Pop Rocks, your stomach will explode.

Wow lots of bullshit urban legends in this thread. Are most of you still in high school or something?

The jagermeister thing stems from a myth that it contains an opiod with all the "secret ingredients" they put in there. Obviously if this where true it would be a controlled product.

The goldschlager thing is bullshit too.

I find that it is very much placebo and taste.

Different alcohols will give me a different buzz but usually in a bad way, kinda like feeling the hangover while you're still drinking. I know the reason tequila seems stronger is because it's an acidic drink. When you're first drinking it, the acidity causes your pyloric sphincter to squeeze tight, so you barely get a buzz. Because you feel next to nothing, you keep drinking, and eventually your sphincter gets numb enough to let all the alcohol into your intestines, and wham-o, you're drunk as goat piss.

Edit: doesnt this belong in FGF?

Edit2: now it's called OI, but the point stands.

Well there is certainly differences between alcoholic drinks ..
But that might not (necessarily) be due to the other active components.
For an example, beer you have to drink large quantities and it is slightly carbonated, which can have an effect on how quickly it gets to your bloodstream etc, and it has hops in it which can affect things .. It also has a lot of fusel oils/cogeners naturally present in it ..
Compared to the relatively pure vodkas etc, which are pretty much only alcohol and water , with the alcohol in a high concentration so you don't need to drink as much etc ..
And the 'gold cutting your throat' thing is just BS, it's only for decoration ..

the only real true fact so far here is that carbonation increases alcohol absorption, which is why if you hate beer, mix your favorite liquor with your favorite soda....


its primarily a role of taste. with almost a pure exception with wine...

That is not true for beer. Since hops are used in beer it gives a different effect.

Wines contain either GHB or a GHB precursor.

mike

i heard something about artificial sweeteners increasing alc absorbtion.

www.abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRepublish_1646002.htm

Wines contain either GHB or a GHB precursor.

mikethe human body also naturally produces and contains GHb.

The alcohol is made by fermenting these different ingredients, so different ingredients = different effects

No dude. Think of it this way; you can make meth from many different precursors (epherdine, pseudoephedrine, etc.) but they all make the same chemical in the end. Meth is meth no matter what precursor it comes from, and alcohol is alcohol no matter what fermented plant it comes from.


Goldschlager, for instance. Has those little flakes of gold that cut little slices in your esophagus.



You really think that you wouldnt notice tiny metal schards (aka shrapnel) cutting up your esophagus, and then having alcohol introduced into the wounds?

i heard something about artificial sweeteners increasing alc absorbtion.

www.abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRepublish_1646002.htm

the human body also naturally produces and contains GHb.

Yup. I recall that as well. But even just a bit more GHB combined with alcohol...synergy? I do notice wine to be different. Although, I can't even be around dry red wines anymore. Fucking alcohol poisoning as a teen.

mike

Noob got it. Methyl alcohol, ethyl alcohol (the good stuff), Isopropyl, they all do different things (like kill you for methyl and iso, if consumed in even moderate amounts.) Cheaper distilled brews usually have more methanol than the more expensive because of the different tolerances allowed by the distiller when fermenting/distilling/aging. One might have a different temperature cutoff than the other, which will allow either more or less methanol to get in.

I'm trying to say this in simple terms but you have to have the basic concept of how it's distilled, alcohols vapor points etc. to really understand what I'm saying. How stuff works explains it decently, although they are a little broad in some areas.

It's got wormwood in it, you stupid fuck.

it's got wormwood in it, you stupid fuck.
absinthe contains very little thujone and has no psychoactive properties aside from those of any other alcohol.

nice overview. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/absinthe#effects_of_absinthe)
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