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#1
 2008-11-05, 04:50
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freeRadical 
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A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
Basically, you fucked yourself America. Good job. I'll be telling you I told you so before his 4 years are up.
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#2
 2008-11-05, 05:04
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
We'll see how this goes. I really can't imagine it being worse than the last 8 years, not at least because of anything the democrats could do.
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#3
 2008-11-05, 05:07
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
more important is the fact that more liberals will also be in the supreme court. the dislike for republicans has run strong enough that everyone simply isn't voting for republicans because of the last 8 years. if anything, republicans fucked themselves.
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#4
 2008-11-05, 05:08
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
I cant imagine anything seriously different happening.
We elected the democrats to Congress 2 years ago to impeach Bush and they never did it. =\
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#5
 2008-11-05, 05:27
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
i never understood why they did not try an impeach bush.
that being said i have high hopes for our next four years. i understand, as should most that the problems we face today are not the kind of problem that can be solved in 5 months.
i am very hopeful though.
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#6
 2008-11-05, 05:36
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
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Originally Posted by lostmyface
i never understood why they did not try an impeach bush.
that being said i have high hopes for our next four years. i understand, as should most that the problems we face today are not the kind of problem that can be solved in 5 months.
i am very hopeful though.
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Kucinich tried, unsuccessfully, to bring impeahment several times.
LIBRULS! MUSLUMS! OOGA BOOGA!
Good job Republicans. You may have killed tactics based on using the fear of the people. :)
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#7
 2008-11-05, 05:42
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
FUck yeahhh!!!!
i am s!!ooo drunk right now it's not even funny!!!
salutations from the united kingdom, i have stayed up WAYYY past my bedtime, historic speach, historic man, historic time!
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I would never say this 1 day ago
"I love american people"
fucking love you guys well done!
fuck the BBC by the way, fuck jonathan dimbleby worst presenter EVER!
but, I LOVE YOU GUYS!
OBAMA! much love from the UK! time for the rootsiness, time for everything we love forever peace out
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#8
 2008-11-05, 05:46
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
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Originally Posted by freeRadical
Basically, you fucked yourself America. Good job. I'll be telling you I told you so before his 4 years are up.
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I certainly hope so.
I expect great things from Obama :)
Great for my political views any ways. Not so good for Democrats or Republicans.
I was really looking forward to riots though. Very disappointing.
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#9
 2008-11-05, 05:50
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
I really can't imagine it being worse than the last 8 years
quoted for ABSOLUTE truth
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#10
 2008-11-05, 05:56
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
Failure to imagine a worse scenario doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot.
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#11
 2008-11-05, 05:58
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freeRadical 
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
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Originally Posted by PirateJoe
We'll see how this goes. I really can't imagine it being worse than the last 8 years, not at least because of anything the democrats could do.
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We'll see how you feel when gas prices hit 6 dollars a gallon because the Dems are taxing the shit out of OPEC. We'll see how you feel when unemployment and inflation is through the roof. Obama's economic policy will not work. We're in for a long period of stagflation under Obama. It's gonna be like the 70's under Carter.
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#12
 2008-11-05, 06:02
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
If it's one thing you can count on it's that niggers are not good leaders and the chances that Obama screws the economy are pretty damn good.
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#13
 2008-11-05, 06:05
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
I really can't imagine it being worse than the last 8 years
Have you ever read about the great depression? Or the holocaust?
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#14
 2008-11-05, 06:11
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
We'll see how you feel when gas prices hit 6 dollars a gallon because the Dems are taxing the shit out of OPEC. We'll see how you feel when unemployment and inflation is through the roof. Obama's economic policy will not work. We're in for a long period of stagflation under Obama. It's gonna be like the 70's under Carter.
OPEC is a foreign cartel. They cannot be taxed by the US government. Regardless, Palin herself taxed Alaskan oil companies and that tax never made its way to the consumer: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYdZoyTvFrTc&refer=home
I wouldn't have to keep replying to your posts if you weren't such a fucking moron.
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#15
 2008-11-05, 06:12
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Da Black Ice 
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
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Originally Posted by Dread_Lord
If it's one thing you can count on it's that niggers are not good leaders and the chances that Obama screws the economy are pretty damn good.
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White people were already doing a pretty damn good job of this. Congratulations.
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#16
 2008-11-05, 06:29
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
Fuck you freeradical, with a Dem Pres and Congress you can pretty well kiss your hate-mongering racist total free-market gay-marriage-hating gun-loving black-hating (did I already say that?) social security hating education voucher giving econ crisis denying ass goodbye.
Tonight, you have joined the rest of the civilized world.
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#17
 2008-11-05, 06:32
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Originally Posted by launchpad
Fuck you freeradical, with a Dem Pres and Congress you can pretty well kiss your hate-mongering racist total free-market gay-marriage-hating gun-loving black-hating (did I already say that?) social security hating education voucher giving econ crisis denying ass goodbye.
Tonight, you have joined the rest of the civilized world.
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Hey.... I like guns. 
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#18
 2008-11-05, 06:35
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
Hey.... I like guns.
Blame my Obama-mania induced drunkenness..I apologize.
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#19
 2008-11-05, 06:42
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
White people were already doing a pretty damn good job of this. Congratulations.
Does it matter?
It's all on Obama now and given the historical failure of black leaders around the world I doubt he will be much of an exception.
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#20
 2008-11-05, 06:47
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
Blame my Obama-mania induced drunkenness..I apologize.
It's cool. I'm getting sloshed at the moment as well.
At least I can engage in technical discussion whilst drunk!  :D
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#21
 2008-11-05, 08:07
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freeRadical 
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
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Originally Posted by launchpad
Fuck you freeradical, with a Dem Pres and Congress you can pretty well kiss your hate-mongering racist total free-market gay-marriage-hating gun-loving black-hating (did I already say that?) social security hating education voucher giving econ crisis denying ass goodbye.
Tonight, you have joined the rest of the civilized world.
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We'll see. Remember, remember the 5th of November.
BTW
1. I'm automatically racist because I hate Obama. 
2. I don't monger hate.
3. I love the free-market:D
4. I'm not against gay marriage.
5. I love guns.:D
6. I don't hate blacks, I hate niggers. There's a difference.
7. Social security is a decaying system. People should invest in their own retirement.
8. I'm not against vouchers for education. In fact, I believe the public school system is a failure.
9. I never denied the economy was in crisis. But, liberal economic policies and more government invention will just make it worse. As you will all soon see. Liberal economic policies are flawed. They sound good in theory but in practical application they are not feasible.
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#22
 2008-11-05, 17:58
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
Have you ever read about the great depression? Or the holocaust?
Did you read the second half of my post? Or are you really saying that the democrats are going to start a holocaust?
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#23
 2008-11-05, 18:11
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freeRadical 
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
Did you read the second half of my post? Or are you really saying that the democrats are going to start a holocaust?
I don't think start a holocaust, but I believe they are going to drive this country into a depression.
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#24
 2008-11-05, 18:20
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
It's cool. I'm getting sloshed at the moment as well.
At least I can engage in technical discussion whilst drunk!  :D
Haha come on now, I'm overseas...so by the time I watched the election results/stumbled home it was about 6:30 in the morning. After a long night of hard drinking and gleefull shouting I can hardly be blamed for my totse outburst
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#25
 2008-11-05, 23:02
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
Did you read the second half of my post? Or are you really saying that the democrats are going to start a holocaust?
No I'm just saying that things could be a lot worse than the last 8 years. To say that the you cannot think of anything worse than the last 8 years is kind of ridiculous and I'm sure you don't actually believe that.
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#26
 2008-11-06, 00:09
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
Yes. No more checks and balances. This was my number one priority when I voted in this election. I am very happy some one else realized this.
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#27
 2008-11-06, 00:41
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Haha come on now, I'm overseas...so by the time I watched the election results/stumbled home it was about 6:30 in the morning. After a long night of hard drinking and gleefull shouting I can hardly be blamed for my totse outburst
I went to sleep with the room almost spinning. It was soooooo relaxing. Its been a long time since I had 8 hours of sleep and actually felt good. Usually I could sleep 12 or more and still feel like shit.
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#28
 2008-11-06, 17:00
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
The main problem I see is that he will be given a free ride to do whatever. Nobody will oppose him for fear of being labeled a racist. We have no idea what he actually thinks since he has almost no voting record and what he does have could easily have been fake just to mislead us. I Don't think McCain would have been any better, but at least Congress would not have allowed him to do whatever unless it was actually popular enough with the public.
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#29
 2008-11-10, 02:50
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
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Originally Posted by freeRadical
Basically, you fucked yourself America. Good job. I'll be telling you I told you so before his 4 years are up.
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Because the last eight years are a shimmering example of how republicans can run this country.
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#30
 2008-11-10, 03:14
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freeRadical 
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
Because the last eight years are a shimmering example of how republicans can run this country.
No the last eight years are a shimmering example of how a democratic congress can run this country. Now, there's nothing stopping them from passing whatever they want. Obama's about to load up the Supreme Court with liberal, left-wing judges. There is no more checks and balances. Agree with me or not, you'll see. Remember, remember the 5th of November.
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#31
 2008-11-10, 03:41
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
No the last eight years are a shimmering example of how a democratic congress can run this country. Now, there's nothing stopping them from passing whatever they want. Obama's about to load up the Supreme Court with liberal, left-wing judges. There ARE no more checks and balances. Agree with me or not, you'll see. Remember, remember the 5th of November.
Except it was Republican controlled until 2006.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_general_elections,_2006
Also, Cheney worked really hard to get rid of checks and balances by increasing the strength of the executive branch. He even spoke out against congress in the 80s saying that Reagan should ignore their decision and supply the contras with weapons. In his vice presidency his doctrine was to expand the scope of the president's powers. Barack will enter the presidency with more power than any other president in history, thanks to Bush and Cheney.
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#32
 2008-11-10, 17:11
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JustAnotherAsshole 
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
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Originally Posted by lostmyface
i never understood why they did not try an impeach bush.
that being said i have high hopes for our next four years. i understand, as should most that the problems we face today are not the kind of problem that can be solved in 5 months.
i am very hopeful though.
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Relating to this, I have a question for somebody more knowledgeable than I to answer.
I remember hearing (From a documentary) that a while back, President Bush got together with his friends and signed off on a bill/law thingy that would keep him out of trouble for crimes he or his administration committed during his presidency, including but not limited to war crimes in Iraq such as torture.
Is this true? Did he sign such a document?
Except it was Republican controlled until 2006.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_general_elections,_2006
Also, Cheney worked really hard to get rid of checks and balances by increasing the strength of the executive branch. He even spoke out against congress in the 80s saying that Reagan should ignore their decision and supply the contras with weapons. In his vice presidency his doctrine was to expand the scope of the president's powers. Barack will enter the presidency with more power than any other president in history, thanks to Bush and Cheney.
This, too.
Bush basically gave himself more and more power because Americans were too scared shitless of terrorists, Illegal immigrants and gay marriage to object.
I'd love it if the first thing Barack did is give the power back to the other branches.
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#33
 2008-11-10, 17:24
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
Relating to this, I have a question for somebody more knowledgeable than I to answer.
I remember hearing (From a documentary) that a while back, President Bush got together with his friends and signed off on a bill/law thingy that would keep him out of trouble for crimes he or his administration committed during his presidency, including but not limited to war crimes in Iraq such as torture.
Is this true? Did he sign such a document?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0oxr-jGOsY
I dont know when this was taken, so I don't know the specific legislation.
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#34
 2008-11-10, 18:32
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
Except it was Republican controlled until 2006.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_general_elections,_2006
THIS!!!
Obama will not wreck America, and if we come into another great depression it will be because the wheels are already in motion. Do people realize that the president has a team full of advisors around him that are "experts" in their respective fields and they help him make choices. Sure the Democrats will control everything, but it is only because the people realize that nothing has been accomplished in the past 8 years and we are worse than we began. The American people voted out many Republicans because they did a shitty job and that is the bottom line.
I hope that our government can clean up some of the mess it made, and unlike many I would have hoped that McCain also would have improved things over Bush.
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#35
 2008-11-10, 18:50
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Do people realize that the president has a team full of advisors around him that are "experts" in their respective fields and they help him make choices.
Well.... most of the time, anyway.
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#36
 2008-11-11, 01:50
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
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Originally Posted by freeRadical
Basically, you fucked yourself America. Good job. I'll be telling you I told you so before his 4 years are up.
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Blame Bush, his cronies, and every right wing fucktard who supported them.
Americans felt we had to make a hard left, to get back to center after 8 years of...
...I am the decider, go fuck yourself...
November 4th Americans had to teach this fuckhead, and his fuckhead neo-con party, who the real deciders are.
Democrats succeeded, only b/c he was such a failure. The Democratic party should issue a letter of thanks, direct to Dubya, and sincerely thank him for handing America to them on a silver platter forged of his incompetence.
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#37
 2008-11-11, 02:22
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
Blame Bush, his cronies, and every right wing fucktard who supported them.
Americans felt we had to make a hard left, to get back to center after 8 years of...
...I am the decider, go fuck yourself...
November 4th Americans had to teach this fuckhead, and his fuckhead neo-con party, who the real deciders are.
Democrats succeeded, only b/c he was such a failure. The Democratic party should issue a letter of thanks, direct to Dubya, and sincerely thank him for handing America to them on a silver platter forged of his incompetence.
Hey!!! BrokeProphet is a very very very intelligent fellow and he being knowing shit.....Everybody else is wrong and he is right...
Now I dont know how true it is but word is a negro is screwing his girlfriend four days a week...
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#38
 2008-11-11, 04:05
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Re: A liberal President and a liberal Congress.
No the last eight years are a shimmering example of how a democratic congress can run this country. Now, there's nothing stopping them from passing whatever they want. Obama's about to load up the Supreme Court with liberal, left-wing judges. There is no more checks and balances. Agree with me or not, you'll see. Remember, remember the 5th of November.
The Republicans had congress for the majority of the last 8 years.
There are less checks and balances because Bush took them away. You wouldn't be complaining about this is McCain had won, but now that it's not to your advantage, it's not fair anymore.
Basically, the worst possible scenario (for you guys) is that Republicans and Conservatives will feel as violated and fucked as the Democrats and Liberals have for the past 8 years.
Chances are, Obama will be governing from the center, taking both viewpoints into consideration.
Hey!!! BrokeProphet is a very very very intelligent fellow and he being knowing shit.....Everybody else is wrong and he is right...
Now I dont know how true it is but word is a negro is screwing his girlfriend four days a week...
In all honesty, you're a complete fuck-tard.
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