I know I haven't posted here in a long time, I hope some BLTC veterens can help me out with this one.

I am getting one bag of tar. It is on it's way right now. My hookup was telling me it was really tiny, so i asked him if it was a tenth of a gram and he said he doesn't know. He is a good friend of mine and comes thru with other good shit, just really overpriced.

Anyways, I live in a barracks, and the area outside my door is patrolled every so often, and I have an anti-drug roomate. My question is, does it smell alot when you smoke it? And how much should one "bag" (most likely .1 of a gram) last me? I probably have a baby tolerance to opiates because I have went thru 40 5/500 hydros in the past 4 days, which is alot for me since my system has been completely clean of all drugs except for alcohol for the past 8 months. What is the best method of smoking it off foil? I have experiance smoking crystal off foil, but never heroin. Is it the same technique? It only stays in your system for 3 days, correct?

Finally, will there be any kind of "hangover" the morning after? I have to be up at 4:30 am for PT.

Shoot it up.

get a syringe and shoot it, it doesnt smell
=]

^^ They've got the idea.:)

Shooting up is NOT an option. Just answer my questions, please.

I've never done it any other way so I'm not sure about the hangover thing with smoking it. I doubt it though.

yea just make a vapo

it kinda smells, i think thats how meta almost got busted back in the day. it is distinctive but not as noticeable as crack or pcp IMO...


but, yea if you can smoke crystal off foil you should have no problem smoking tar off the foil. and 40 vikes in 4 days is a little more than baby tolerance...

Ok. So is it like really strong or what?

And how much would .1 last me? Any tips on smoking it? Should I take huge hits like if i was smoking crystal?

What is the best method of smoking it off foil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13-1fwELmzw

It only stays in your system for 3 days, correct?

About 2-6, depending on the person (metabolism, body type, etc.) Might be shorter for some, longer for others.

Finally, will there be any kind of "hangover" the morning after? I have to be up at 4:30 am for PT.

Also varies. You'll definitely feel a little shittier than you did before chasin' it.

Ok. So is it like really strong or what?

It's not a really strong smell but it can be covered up. Air freshener should help for the most part, but you can make one of those paper towel tubes with the dryer sheet things in them if you're really paranoid about it.

And how much would .1 last me?

Not very long. Depending on the strength, it should only last one or two doses. If it's nice and strong though you could probably stretch it to three.

Any tips on smoking it?

Spread it as thinly as possible on the foil but keep it all close together. Just need to spread the surface area out. You probably already know you need a tube to inhale the smoke with. Some people use pens, but I prefer something bigger. I used to either cut a 20oz soda bottle in half (or more), or just used a relatively small funnel (using the bottom part as a mouthpiece, obviously.)

Should I take huge hits like if i was smoking crystal?

No. Remember -- you can always take more, but you can never take less than you have. Especially if your tolerance is low, you should tread carefully. Better safe than sorry, no?

Also, try to keep your use to a minimum. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but heroin addiction is no laughing matter and is something NO ONE should ever have to go through. It's a wonderful drug as far as the actual experience goes, but as you fall further into a hole it starts turning into "needing" instead of "wanting." Longer into the habit, the only thing that will be on your mind is when you'll get your next fix.

So just take it easy with the stuff. Just lookin' out for a brotha.

What military post do you live on? And yea, you will have a good time. Smoke that shit up and hold it like weed. You will be fucked. Just you give yourself like 7 or 8 hours before pt.

if he's never done heroin before i'd say he should at least have 8 hours to sleep if not more, opiates lead to deep sleep. but he should be alright with 8 hours...


i'd say split the little ball you got into four peices, throw one on the foil, make a foil straw, and smoke ala crystal [avoiding direct flame contact]. inhale deep, you'll notice the more you inhale, you know, as the heroin gets to your brain, the less coughing you'll be able to do...



and yea it should be outta your system 3 days-ish, but remember you've been chomping on vikes.

Damn dude... that just reeks of bad idea. Do what you want though dude, and be sure to tell us how it goes!

enjoy it dude don't go to crazy

just outa curiosity can you smoke powder heroin this way efficiently?(when shooting isn't an option)

he said he doesn't know

Then he doesn't know shit and its your own fucking fault if its not even close to it.


Brown sugar substances FTW.

It's a bit easier chasing than tar.

Your a dumb piece of shit for doing this drug (if you get addicted, which is a a good chance after your second try at it,,,).

This is the best advice you will get in this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13-1fwELmzw



About 2-6, depending on the person (metabolism, body type, etc.) Might be shorter for some, longer for others.


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Wow tha method looked extremely wasteful. He was smoking powder. I would just sort it if it is powder. if it is tar then you moke it.

Your a dumb piece of shit for doing this drug (if you get addicted, which is a a good chance after your second try at it,,,).

This is the best advice you will get in this thread.Stfu. there is not rule on heroin that u will become automatically addicted. yes it is possible but ot from one use. It is when you start using daily you have to worry. If he can do it and not use it or think about it the next day will be fine.

op tar has a distinct smell when smoked but if they have never smoked it they will have no idea what it is. Just goto the shitter and smoke it and light a cig and take a puff or a match after.

by saying this i assume you have tried it yourself and have 1st hand experience in knowing how addictive it is?

by saying this i assume you have tried it yourself and have 1st hand experience in knowing how addictive it is?

I have first hand experience about heroin and it's addictiveness. I was a daily user for roughly 2-3 years at a very early age, I also slammed meth to offset the nastier effects of heroin.
But like I always used to say.

I'm putting the hero back in heroin, because i'd rather be a walking dead sticking it in,
im never getting married and im never having kids because im already married like the scratch to the itch.
Give me heroin, I'm jacking up again.
Give me heroin, underneath my skin,
Give me heroin, because i'll never win,
Give me HEROIN, such a sin.


Just take it easy on how much you do it and you might just be lucky enough to find that rare nirvana of a middle ground between recreational use of heroin and physical and emotional addiction of heroin.

Cheers bud :)

by saying this i assume you have tried it yourself and have 1st hand experience in knowing how addictive it is?

Nope.

heroin http://i38.tinypic.com/29lgy20.jpg

heroin http://i38.tinypic.com/29lgy20.jpg

You wish you were cool enough to do heroin, Staples.

Barracks+pt+paranoid to get caught=Military.....
Room mate=room=USMC

Your a disgrace to the servise.....I hope you get fucking caught and get court Marshaled. If your going to serve your country do it with pride....not with a fucking piece of foil and a lighter you Jarhead junkie fuck......I wish I knew your name and where your stationed....id narc you out to your CO so fast your ass would be AWOL headed to canada.

Fuck you.....you dont deserve the honor.

it is distinctive but not as noticeable as crack or pcp IMO...

PCP smoke is the absolute worst. I enjoy the smell, personally, but that's beside the point.

Barracks+pt+paranoid to get caught=Military.....
Room mate=room=USMC

Your a disgrace to the servise.....I hope you get fucking caught and get court Marshaled. If your going to serve your country do it with pride....not with a fucking piece of foil and a lighter you Jarhead junkie fuck......I wish I knew your name and where your stationed....id narc you out to your CO so fast your ass would be AWOL headed to canada.

Fuck you.....you dont deserve the honor.

Shut the fuck up, not everyone has perfect coping skills buddy. You little snitch ass pussy. People dont snitch on their bvrothers in arms< they would atleaast talk to them and work out the problem>

first shoot heroin, second shoot up in your mouth for three dollars.

Shut the fuck up, not everyone has perfect coping skills buddy. You little snitch ass pussy. People dont snitch on their bvrothers in arms< they would atleaast talk to them and work out the problem>

Hes no brother of mine....Coping skills my ass......Heroin is the last way to fucking deal with your problems.......Addiction to the point where you will sleep on a side walk and beg for cash???? Thats a great why to solve a problem

"I have so many problems......well i can always make it better with Heroin"

If you cant handle life.......Huff raid.

Id understand if he had a problem earlier and hes just trying to escape withdrawl but if he has to ask how to do it....he is new to it.....so he should fucking use his brain......Maybe he wants to cause more problems in his life so he can get lots of practice with his "coping skills"


No Pitty for a Piece of shit.

Dude you seriously need to shut the fuck up^

And quit embarrassing your self

You sound like a fucking dumbass

Barracks+pt+paranoid to get caught=Military.....
Room mate=room=USMC

Your a disgrace to the servise.....I hope you get fucking caught and get court Marshaled. If your going to serve your country do it with pride....not with a fucking piece of foil and a lighter you Jarhead junkie fuck......I wish I knew your name and where your stationed....id narc you out to your CO so fast your ass would be AWOL headed to canada.

Fuck you.....you dont deserve the honor.

Too bad I'm not a jarhead you piece of shit.

And I don't have a CO, I have a BC.

Obviousley you have never been in any kind of service. You don't know how it REALLY is. Keep sitting at home watching TV and continue to do nothiong but smoke weed and eat dorito's you fat fuck. Pass your holy judgement on the world.

I am in no way shape or form addicted. You know what? I only had a small sample that night. I am saving the rest for the weekend. As much as I wanted to nod that night, I didn't because I knew that would just cause me more problems.

With all the stress my unit has brought me, I feel like I deserve it. You are no brother of mine either. What the fuck do you know about the army? Do you know what it's like being 2000+ miles away from everything you like and love? Do you know what it is like to have so much pressure on you to prevail in everything you do, to be the best there is? Do you know what it is like to point a weapon at someone and pull the trigger? Do you know what it is fucking like to rain 105mm HE shells on a target 2 miles away without even really knowing how much death and destruction you are causing? I didn't fucking think so you faggot.

I have not been deployed yet, but everyday my unit gets closer and closer. Going to afghanistan next spring. Everyday I play these "scenarios" in my mind. I am trying to get as close to my family as possible because I do not know if I will make it back.

Too bad I'm not a jarhead you piece of shit.

And I don't have a CO, I have a BC.

Obviousley you have never been in any kind of service. You don't know how it REALLY is. Keep sitting at home watching TV and continue to do nothiong but smoke weed and eat dorito's you fat fuck. Pass your holy judgement on the world.

I am in no way shape or form addicted. You know what? I only had a small sample that night. I am saving the rest for the weekend. As much as I wanted to nod that night, I didn't because I knew that would just cause me more problems.

With all the stress my unit has brought me, I feel like I deserve it. You are no brother of mine either. What the fuck do you know about the army? Do you know what it's like being 2000+ miles away from everything you like and love? Do you know what it is like to have so much pressure on you to prevail in everything you do, to be the best there is? Do you know what it is like to point a weapon at someone and pull the trigger? Do you know what it is fucking like to rain 105mm HE shells on a target 2 miles away without even really knowing how much death and destruction you are causing? I didn't fucking think so you faggot.
This.

Smoking heroin while in the armed forces is a horrible idea. You will most likely get caught and fucked in the ass by the long dick of military law. If you have access to heroin, don't you have access to pills too? Why not get some xanax or some oxy's or something. Popping pills doesn't leave a smell behind. Heroin is bad mmkay.

Hes no brother of mine....Coping skills my ass......Heroin is the last way to fucking deal with your problems.......Addiction to the point where you will sleep on a side walk and beg for cash???? Thats a great why to solve a problem

"I have so many problems......well i can always make it better with Heroin"

If you cant handle life.......Huff raid.

Id understand if he had a problem earlier and hes just trying to escape withdrawl but if he has to ask how to do it....he is new to it.....so he should fucking use his brain......Maybe he wants to cause more problems in his life so he can get lots of practice with his "coping skills"


No Pitty for a Piece of shit.
You obviously have never had any experience with eroin you are stereotyping. i have been addicted to h and i never ONCE slept in the st,stole, or begged for money.

Too bad I'm not a jarhead you piece of shit.

And I don't have a CO, I have a BC.

Obviousley you have never been in any kind of service. You don't know how it REALLY is. Keep sitting at home watching TV and continue to do nothiong but smoke weed and eat dorito's you fat fuck. Pass your holy judgement on the world.

I am in no way shape or form addicted. You know what? I only had a small sample that night. I am saving the rest for the weekend. As much as I wanted to nod that night, I didn't because I knew that would just cause me more problems.

With all the stress my unit has brought me, I feel like I deserve it. You are no brother of mine either. What the fuck do you know about the army? Do you know what it's like being 2000+ miles away from everything you like and love? Do you know what it is like to have so much pressure on you to prevail in everything you do, to be the best there is? Do you know what it is like to point a weapon at someone and pull the trigger? Do you know what it is fucking like to rain 105mm HE shells on a target 2 miles away without even really knowing how much death and destruction you are causing? I didn't fucking think so you faggot.

I have not been deployed yet, but everyday my unit gets closer and closer. Going to afghanistan next spring. Everyday I play these "scenarios" in my mind. I am trying to get as close to my family as possible because I do not know if I will make it back.

Did you also know you signed up for it yourself you moron?
Seriously the army needs more pussies like you.

Popping pills doesn't leave a smell behind. Heroin is bad mmkay.

stigma is horrible. an opiod, is an opiod, is an opiod, be it a fucking liquid, pill, or ungodly tarry goop you got on the foil...


[i hear the dope is cheap in afgahniland]

Too bad I'm not a jarhead you piece of shit.

And I don't have a CO, I have a BC.

Obviousley you have never been in any kind of service. You don't know how it REALLY is. Keep sitting at home watching TV and continue to do nothiong but smoke weed and eat dorito's you fat fuck. Pass your holy judgement on the world.

I am in no way shape or form addicted. You know what? I only had a small sample that night. I am saving the rest for the weekend. As much as I wanted to nod that night, I didn't because I knew that would just cause me more problems.

With all the stress my unit has brought me, I feel like I deserve it. You are no brother of mine either. What the fuck do you know about the army? Do you know what it's like being 2000+ miles away from everything you like and love? Do you know what it is like to have so much pressure on you to prevail in everything you do, to be the best there is? Do you know what it is like to point a weapon at someone and pull the trigger? Do you know what it is fucking like to rain 105mm HE shells on a target 2 miles away without even really knowing how much death and destruction you are causing? I didn't fucking think so you faggot.

I have not been deployed yet, but everyday my unit gets closer and closer. Going to afghanistan next spring. Everyday I play these "scenarios" in my mind. I am trying to get as close to my family as possible because I do not know if I will make it back.


No one made you sign enlist, that was your choice. If you can't handle it that's your problem, and smoking Heroin to cope is just a terrible way to deal with your decision.

Also my friend who is in the 82nd was home for 18 days, and is getting deployed of Afghanistan in 20 days. you know what?? he's not complaining or afraid, because he is a real man. He's actually looking forward to going there and trying to help his country.He doesn't need Heroin to deal with the fact that he is going to serve his country in battle.

You should just go AWOl because you're worthless to the service anyways. I hope you get caught and court marshaled. You knew what you were getting into, there is a war you're soldier. You make me sick and are a disgrace to the armed services and the country.

No one made you sign enlist, that was your choice. If you can't handle it that's your problem, and smoking Heroin to cope is just a terrible way to deal with your decision.

Also my friend who is in the 82nd was home for 18 days, and is getting deployed of Afghanistan in 20 days. you know what?? he's not complaining or afraid, because he is a real man. He's actually looking forward to going there and trying to help his country.He doesn't need Heroin to deal with the fact that he is going to serve his country in battle.

You should just go AWOl because you're worthless to the service anyways. I hope you get caught and court marshaled. You knew what you were getting into, there is a war you're soldier. You make me sick and are a disgrace to the armed services and the country.
Dude he is not the only one in the military that is using drugs(to cope or not it doesnt matter). drug use is rampant among the us soldiers right now.

If he was high or nodding out on a patrol that would be one thing. But if the dude is on his off time and not in a cambat situation why cant he smoke a little tar? it is not going to effect what he does on a patrol in the future.


Smoking heroin while in the armed forces is a horrible idea. You will most likely get caught and fucked in the ass by the long dick of military law. If you have access to heroin, don't you have access to pills too? Why not get some xanax or some oxy's or something. Popping pills doesn't leave a smell behind. Heroin is bad mmkay. what makes heroin worse than opiates/oids in pill form? You do realize that heroin is just morphine that crosses the BBB 6 times faster right? You do realize that heroin just converts to morphine when it is in the body right? the only difference between other opiates/oids and heroin is the stigma around it. They all do the exact same thing in the end and that is agonize the MU opioid receptors.

Barracks+pt+paranoid to get caught=Military.....
Room mate=room=USMC

Your a disgrace to the servise.....I hope you get fucking caught and get court Marshaled. If your going to serve your country do it with pride....not with a fucking piece of foil and a lighter you Jarhead junkie fuck......I wish I knew your name and where your stationed....id narc you out to your CO so fast your ass would be AWOL headed to canada.

Fuck you.....you dont deserve the honor.


Who the fuck are you, and why the fuck are you copying my name, douchebag? Get the fuck out.

Dude he is not the only one in the military that is using drugs(to cope or not it doesnt matter). drug use is rampant among the us soldiers right now.

I don't care it's still wrong to do drugs in the Military. I know if I was enlisted I would stop using, just because of all the responsibility and honor related to serving

I don't care it's still wrong to do drugs in the Military. I know if I was enlisted I would stop using, just because of all the responsibility and honor related to serving

Well that doesnt stop the thousands that are using in the military whether they started after joining or used drugs before they joined. Some have started using drugs because they are in the military and that is the only way they have found to cope

You are not going to change this guys mind because "teh HoNorz." You can't say for sure what you would do in his situation because you are not him and you dont know his cirumstances. You clearly don't understand the hardships involved with service. Maybe he just wants to get high. He already made of his mind anyway. He wasnt asking if it was right or wrong. If you want to talk about drug use and the service and how it is wrong then go complain to the guys in Together We Serve.

They're other ways to cope, they are weak and shouldn't be in the army.

Well if you are so strong why don't you enlist and quit doing drugs? do something with your life besides critisizing other people about how it is wrong for them to use drugs but right for you to use them. I would like to see how long you last before you break down and use drugs again. Not everyone is perfect and has perfect coping skills. And ?how do you know that is even what he is using it for.

GOTO TOGETHER WE SERVE (shit i dont even know if they would want that over there) or bitch and moan if you want to bitch about soldiers using drugs because THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT.

if I wanted to enlist, I would have done it already. My point it if you have the responsibility of killing someone and protecting a country you should not be doing drugs. It also seems that this thread wreaks of a bad idea. Doing illicit drugs in the military is a horrible idea.

if I wanted to enlist, I would have done it already. My point it if you have the responsibility of killing someone and protecting a country you should not be doing drugs. It also seems that this thread wreaks of a bad idea. Doing illicit drugs is a horrible idea.
dude do you realize what your in. THIS IS BLTC.

Well your not strong at all. Do not try to make yourself out to be better than the OP. You are no better than the op. Atleast he did something with his life.

Now it is clear. You are not a drug user and you have never been in the military. Why are you COMMENTING IN THIS THREAD THEN?

Doing illicit drugs is a horrible idea.
Why are you in BLTC then?

how do you even know that he holds a combat potsition? That is not what the military is all about.

This is not Better living through good morals.

Lol I said in my first post that I do do drugs. I just kicked a 2 year cocaine addiction in August. I know where I am, what I am posting is drug related, and I am voicing my opinion. I see that you don't like what I'm saying, but I believe the points I am making are valid. I am not against doing drugs, all I am saying is that if your in the Army you should not be doing drugs.

No one made you sign enlist, that was your choice. If you can't handle it that's your problem, and smoking Heroin to cope is just a terrible way to deal with your decision.

Also my friend who is in the 82nd was home for 18 days, and is getting deployed of Afghanistan in 20 days. you know what?? he's not complaining or afraid, because he is a real man. He's actually looking forward to going there and trying to help his country.He doesn't need Heroin to deal with the fact that he is going to serve his country in battle.

You should just go AWOl because you're worthless to the service anyways. I hope you get caught and court marshaled. You knew what you were getting into, there is a war you're soldier. You make me sick and are a disgrace to the armed services and the country.

I am not using just to cope with the military life you judgemental faggot. I had a hard, stressful week, and I want to wind down, thats all. Anyone who says that they aren't scared of going into a combat zone is a straight up liar. 80% of the people in my battery are Iraq and Afghanistan war veterens. Mostly from 03' and 06', the worst times of the war. They told me so many stories that I can imagine, but I can't even comprehend how it would feel to be in their position. I will be soon enough, though.

I am honored to serve my country, and to be in the best Army in the world. You do not even know what you are talking about. I know it is not the "smartest" idea to use, I know the consequences, and I will take the necessary actions to avoid getting caught. I am not a shitbag soldier, I work long, hard hours everyday, and put forth maximum effort in everything I do. Sometimes things just stack up.

If you are so much better than me, why don't you enlist?

i see you edited what you said. Cant edit my qoute of what you said though.

I don't care it's still wrong to do drugs in the Military. I know if I was enlisted I would stop using, just because of all the responsibility and honor related to serving

So does this mean you're dishonourable because you use drugs? That's what you're implying. Honor does not stop at the exit-gates of the Military, so you're just as "dishonourable" as anyone else.
Maybe you should enlist so that your "dishonourable" opinion on this topic might actually matter. Since you're using drugs, and thus, by your implactions, you're dishonourable, why should we take your opinion seriously?

So does this mean you're dishonourable because you use drugs? That's what you're implying.
Maybe you should enlist so that your "dishonourable" opinion on this topic might actually matter. Since you're using drugs, and thus, by your implactions, you're dishonourable, why should we take your opinion seriously?

Haha pwned by acolyte! dont shut up acolyte!

I don't give a fuck what your reason is.....Your a scumbag junkie and you don't deseve to serve the country.....What you have done and what I have done matter nothing....I refuse to compare my self to a lowlife like you.

I have said it once and ill say it again.


IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE LIFE.....END YOURS. (Quickly)

Pussy

[QUOTE=ilovechronic;10653185]Well that doesnt stop the thousands that are using in the military whether they started after joining or used drugs before they joined. Some have started using drugs because they are in the military and that is the only way they have found to cope[QUOTE]

Thousands do it so i can too?


Monkey see,Monkey do.

honor related to serving

Hahahahahahaha.

do i think that what I do is dishonorable yes. I have never made an attempt to look like a saint. I do drugs, I use them as a crutch. I am man enough to admit this, what i do with myself is something that i will have to deal with. What I have done in my lifetime has nothing to do with the moral position the OP has put himself in. to answer your question. I hold no position of power or influence. when you hold office in a public arena, such as protecting and serving ones country,you owe so much to your constituents to not not do drugs which will affect your decision making ability. This is the point I am trying to construe

Your point has been considered and rejected.

Case closed.

That is in no way junky at all. He is not a dope fiend. He just wants to get high on ocassion.

So you are just a little weak bitch. I would like to see you make it in the army when you need to use drugs as a crutch in the much less stressful everday life compared to the much more stressful everday life of the army.


[QUOTE=ilovechronic;10653185]Well that doesnt stop the thousands that are using in the military whether they started after joining or used drugs before they joined. Some have started using drugs because they are in the military and that is the only way they have found to cope[QUOTE]

blah blahb blah blah blah i dont know how to make a qoute.That was not the point. My point was that he is not the only one with that kind of problem, it is a reoccuring theme in combat. thousands are doing the same thing as him, i was not trying to justify his use with that.

So does this mean you're dishonourable because you use drugs? That's what you're implying. Honor does not stop at the exit-gates of the Military, so you're just as "dishonourable" as anyone else.
Maybe you should enlist so that your "dishonourable" opinion on this topic might actually matter. Since you're using drugs, and thus, by your implactions, you're dishonourable, why should we take your opinion seriously?

learn to spell acolyte.

GTFO.

So, erm..... /THREAD time?