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 #1 
Old 2008-11-05, 00:07
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Default Will Paul run again in 2012?

Would he have any shot at winning? I know its hard to say at this time because we havnt seen the 2 candidates in office yet, but lets just say they didnt do a phenomenal job. Will Paul be too old and his impact this election be forgotten?
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Old 2008-11-05, 00:13
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He never had any shot at winning.
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Old 2008-11-05, 00:15
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Will Paul be too old and his impact this election be forgotten?

He didn't do anything. He was an internet phenomenon. That's like wondering if Nader will win in 2012, only at least he gets a recordable percentage of votes when he runs. You might as well ask the impact of the O RLY? owl.
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Old 2008-11-05, 00:31
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No, he will be too old. And on a related note, fuck anyone who starts talking about the 2012 election prior to November 2011.
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Old 2008-11-05, 01:10
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Default Re: Will Paul run again in 2012?

I don't think he would, but maybe someone who will carry on his legacy.
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Old 2008-11-05, 01:31
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You might as well ask the impact of the O RLY? owl.

Now there would be a solid choice.
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Old 2008-11-05, 01:33
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Default Re: Will Paul run again in 2012?

Ron Paul is what, 73 now? I really doubt he will be up for running in 2012, but you never know, he has fire in his eyes unlike anyone I have ever seen that age.

I think we will be in an entirely different political climate in 4 years than we are today and I don't think any of us can predict exactly what it will look like.

I am under the belief that after another 4 years of bullshit a more people will be open to his ideas.
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Old 2008-11-05, 04:04
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Default Re: Will Paul run again in 2012?

I hope he does run in '12.
I'll back him every time.

Love his policies and vision.
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Old 2008-11-05, 07:23
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If not Paul, what about BJ Lawson? Don't know if he's eligible... Just saw that he lost his race in NC, but who knows... He doesn't have the political experience of Paul, but I believe he's got the endorsement of Paul. But I can't remember right now...
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Old 2008-11-06, 01:49
el reformador el reformador is offline
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Default Re: Will Paul run again in 2012?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dichromate
He never had any shot at winning.


oh, he had a 'shot' at winning. He just never took it because he did want to spend his term behind bars. lol
 #11 
Old 2008-11-06, 02:14
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Paul-Barr 12 now that's a 3rd party candidacy worth endorsing.
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Old 2008-11-06, 02:39
Dream of the iris Dream of the iris is offline
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I think Paul's got a shot in 2012 but it's really all dependent on Obama. I can honestly say all of his policies could easily fly South just as they appear to be flying North. If he really messes things up, I guarentee either him or at least someone similar to him could win in 2012.
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Old 2008-11-06, 03:12
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I don't think so, the media won't give him enough coverage for the average idiot to vote for him. Its gonna be more of the same in 2012.
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Old 2008-11-06, 04:25
Dream of the iris Dream of the iris is offline
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Check this video out about Ron Paul's prediction. Sounds really scary seeing as how it sounds very plausible but also because its a Congressman who is telling you this rather than some conspiracy Theory nut job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqN2EKuXX2g&eurl
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Old 2008-11-06, 05:56
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Originally Posted by benpari
Ron Paul is what, 73 now? I really doubt he will be up for running in 2012, but you never know, he has fire in his eyes unlike anyone I have ever seen that age.

I think we will be in an entirely different political climate in 4 years than we are today and I don't think any of us can predict exactly what it will look like.

I am under the belief that after another 4 years of bullshit a more people will be open to his ideas.


He exercises and eats salads every day. He's pretty on top of his game for an old fellow. We'd probably best have him left in Congress, though. There are far too few people of his caliber in there, let alone in the entire country. The world won't deal with his policies anymore, and he would be close to a lame duck president save for probably restoring a sizable portion of our civil liberties.

God bless the man, but his policies should have been in place 100 or so years ago and then left to evolve. We can't just snap back to the gold standard and "most free" markets overnight. Doing so would be a disaster for many industries that use precious metals.
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Old 2008-11-06, 06:27
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Default Re: Will Paul run again in 2012?

He exercises and eats salads every day. He's pretty on top of his game for an old fellow. We'd probably best have him left in Congress, though. There are far too few people of his caliber in there, let alone in the entire country. The world won't deal with his policies anymore, and he would be close to a lame duck president save for probably restoring a sizable portion of our civil liberties.

God bless the man, but his policies should have been in place 100 or so years ago and then left to evolve. We can't just snap back to the gold standard and "most free" markets overnight. Doing so would be a disaster for many industries that use precious metals.

Yeah, I am glad that he stayed a Senator rather than running for president under a third party. As much as I would have liked to see how much of a wave he could have made, it is probably for the better.

The greatest thing about him wasn't that he was going to come in and change everything overnight, he planned to start phasing them out. Most people don't seem to understand this concept. The man has his feat much more on the ground than almost anyone gives him credit for, in fact I think he has his feat more on the ground than anyone else in Congress.

I will second that, God bless Ron Paul.
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Old 2008-11-07, 04:34
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No third party candidate ever has a shot at winning. That being said, that doesn't mean you should only vote Democrat or Republican, especially if you're a man of principle like I am. Even if you're not, if enough people start to vote for a third party, the other two parties will take note of the votes being detracted from their party and will be forced to adopt some of the policies of the third parties in order to keep afloat. If enough people voted for Nader, Barr, or Paul, the two-party system would take notice and would adjust themselves likewise.
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Old 2008-11-07, 08:28
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People keep saying "third party".

Ron Paul ran on the Republican ticket, and the only true historical republican at that.

The philosophies of the several other so-called "republican" candidates running in this past election would be completely unrecognizable to the early party members.
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Old 2008-11-07, 17:00
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Yeah, I am glad that he stayed a Senator rather than running for president under a third party.

Congressman, not Senator. He's in the House of Representatives. I don't think he'd have a shot at winning a Senate seat in Texas. Fucking heart of neoconservatives. And those are the people who have taken over the Republican Party. I wonder...do they call themselves that? Isn't that an insult to anyone, to be labeled a neo-conservative?
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Old 2008-11-07, 20:13
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Default Re: Will Paul run again in 2012?

Would he have any shot at winning?

PSH...yeah, he has a shot at winning...maybe his running mate will be Ross Perot...haa
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Old 2008-11-07, 23:09
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Default Re: Will Paul run again in 2012?

And those are the people who have taken over the Republican Party. I wonder...do they call themselves that? Isn't that an insult to anyone, to be labeled a neo-conservative?

I believe the neo-cons are beginning their death throes.

The Democrats swept the government in this election, thanks to the ideas and policies of neo-conservatism. Watch as Republicans in 2 years distance themselves from Bush and anything neo-con related.

I voted Obama, my state of Indiana went blue for the first time since 1964, so far, I really like the man, and think and hope he will be a great president.

But.....

I would trade Obama in a second for Paul.
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Old 2008-11-08, 02:37
The Happiest Little Nug The Happiest Little Nug is offline
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Default Re: Will Paul run again in 2012?

He'll be 73 I don't think he's gonna run again
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Old 2008-11-08, 10:49
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Default Re: Will Paul run again in 2012?

I believe the neo-cons are beginning their death throes.

The Democrats swept the government in this election, thanks to the ideas and policies of neo-conservatism. Watch as Republicans in 2 years distance themselves from Bush and anything neo-con related.

I voted Obama, my state of Indiana went blue for the first time since 1964, so far, I really like the man, and think and hope he will be a great president.

But.....

I would trade Obama in a second for Paul.


the repubs, will regroup and take back control of the senate in 2010.
Palin will run in 2012 and win...her or Bobby Jindal.
Obama has only been in for 4 days and the backlash has already started.

there has only been one neo lib pres in the last 2 year - clinton.
obama may get impeach before two years...depends on what he does.
he will be scrutinized the hardest of ANY of our past presidents.
he will not so much as be able to take a piss without someone scrutinizing.
it sucks that this was the niggers first president.
he will be demonized even before his first term ends.
this is the first and last nigger president, and likely the last neo-lib president for 20 more years.

the next four years will be the most turbulent years in Americas history, and we are STILL the best country that currently or that has EVER existed.
oh yes, be SURE to get in line for your welfare handouts, that obama will bankrupt the government giving out.

if the niggers and brownies are getting it we might as well all jump in.

"i don t have to worry about puttin gask in ma car, i dont have to worry about payin ma mogage...now that obama is elected!" some stupid nigger woman at an obama rally!
lulz
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Old 2008-11-08, 10:52
el reformador el reformador is offline
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Default Re: Will Paul run again in 2012?

I believe the neo-cons are beginning their death throes.

The Democrats swept the government in this election, thanks to the ideas and policies of neo-conservatism. Watch as Republicans in 2 years distance themselves from Bush and anything neo-con related.

I voted Obama, my state of Indiana went blue for the first time since 1964, so far, I really like the man, and think and hope he will be a great president.

But.....

I would trade Obama in a second for Paul.
obama is the president of broken promises.

i cant wait to see the turmoil and upheaval , BEFORE July of next year.
you heard it here first.
his angry minority/nigger followers will descend upon the whitehouse by the millions, we they learn he is not really going to hand over the top echelon of the government to darkies and brownies. lol
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Old 2008-11-09, 06:05
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Heard his son wants to get into politics.

He's got identical beliefs.

Except he's not a hardcore christian.

And he's young, charismatic.

Hmm...
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Old 2008-11-09, 06:32
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Default Re: Will Paul run again in 2012?

obama is the president of broken promises.

i cant wait to see the turmoil and upheaval , BEFORE July of next year.
you heard it here first.
his angry minority/nigger followers will descend upon the whitehouse by the millions, we they learn he is not really going to hand over the top echelon of the government to darkies and brownies. lol

I doubt it - have they ever questioned why shit still sucks for them despite them voting 9 to 1 for democrats?
Broken promises aren't an issue here.
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Old 2008-11-09, 19:32
Ballsack_Obama Ballsack_Obama is offline
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Default Re: Will Paul run again in 2012?

Congressman Paul has confirmed to me in a private meeting yesterday that he will not run again until 2016.
 
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