For those of you who had experience with at least 2 different opiates:
Which opiate @ what dose and route of administration?
How did they compare in terms of effects (ie. sedation/stimulation, itch and constipation, euphoria vs. "fuckedupedness", addiction potential, comedown/withdrawal etc.)

I never tried oxy but I am very familiar with hydroc, fent and ppt, so how would you compare effects of oxycodone to hydrocodone, fentanyl or pod tea?

And lastly, if you were dosed an equipotent amount of 2 different opiates on 2 different days (same tolerance, conditions etc.) would you be able to tell the difference? How?

ive only done oxy, hydro, and suboxen and opium. oxy was my favorite and weed and oxy are the only drugs i do anymore.


yea there is a difference. i love how oxy feels comared to the others.

Please be more specific? how did oxy compare to hydro, in terms of high?

And how does suboxone feel?

Only had oxycodone and dilaudid. Hard to get anything but weed here.

Oxys were more of a whole body happy euphoria. I enjoyed the feeling overall much more than dillys and its a hell of a lot safer.

The dillys I was actually perscribed. Mg by mg they are 8 times more potent than morphine. It's good IV'd, I've heard some prefer it over heroin but I wouldn't know. The pills will just give you a sedated deep down warmth, like the feeling of a couple shots without the drunkness. Watch the dosage, as I said they are potent. The different between a great buzz and death could be a couple MGs.

If you go for dillys be careful, it's called drug-store heroin for a reason. It's extremely addicting. Dumbass doctor had me on 8mg every 4 hours for a month and a half then cut me off. Ended up in the ER 17 hours after my last dose. The withdrawals no picnic either.

idk man oxy is the shit though. makes pain go away or well its still there but its different and doesnt hurt.

oxy is thebaine based so it has some stimulant properties which is great. just overall a much better buzz than hydro.

and considering they dont make ir hydros in the 30 to 80 range.

Codeine: Tired, not intoxicated, SLIGHT hydrocodone feeling, half bottle of syrup, doesn't last long.
Hydrocodone feeling: tired, intoxicated, barely euphoric, 4-8 7.5mg orally, lasts 1-2 hours
Oxycodone: awakee, highly intoxicated, very euphoric, 40mg intransally lasts 3-4 hours
Oxymorphone: Just like oxycodone but 5mg instead of 40mg intranasally. lasts 4-5 horus
Morphine: tired, intoxicated, pretty euphoric, 20mg intranasally lasts 2-3 hours? Havnen't done it in a while
Heroin: tired, highly intoxicated, extreamly euphoric, "beed" smoked Lasts 3-4 hours
suboxone: wide awake, highly intoxicated, not euphoric at all, less so then hydrocodone, 2mg intranasally, this lasts so long I actually dislike it befcause it lasts so long. Lasts 8 hours and more.

I haven't tried fentanyl, hydromorphone or other weird ones

Favore: oxy codone/morphone>heroin>morphine>suboxone>hydrocodone>codiene

I was talking to a guy a while back who said he saw a girl IV a dilly and cum her panties. I've done OC, hydro, codeine, morphine and straight dope before but never done dillys. I wonder if I'd like them more than I like H or OC, guess I'll have to wait to try em and see for myself.

for me OXY is king. It works the best at relieving pain and has the best effects when used recreationally. It gives a overall great feeling of euphoria and gives me stimulating effects.

Hydrocodone is also made from thebaine fyi, and ime I have hard time falling asleep while high on hydros or fentanyl, but morphine and hydromorphone is opposite. Not including the Poppy pods although they contain morphine, they also have thebaine that keeps me up (more or less depending on a particular batch/provider)

The reson why I am asking about oxy vs. hydro is because i never tried oxy and there are multiple threads on for ex. bluelight where people argue which is better, oxy or hydroc, in equipotent dosage.
To me it all seems to get down to wether whether someone likes sedation and nod or stimulation and lack of nod. But then again I never tried oxy... Im sure I would like it better than hydroc, hydrom, fent or morph.

I dont think they make oxy in 30 to 80 range in IR, but i know what you mean... it would be cool if they made hyrdos in higher dosages, or at least without any NSAID crap..

King among what ? codeine and tramadol? sure, but if you IV'd oxymorphone, heroin or even hydromorphone you would probably change your mind. So dude, you need to specify what else have you tried, dosage and ROA, so that your statement is relevant.

Also, never tried oxy, and I am sure it has shitload more euphoria than fent, but I would bet anything that fentanyl has THE greatest painkilling potential. That is also the general consensus on them pain management forums.

I was talking to a guy a while back who said he saw a girl IV a dilly and cum her panties. I've done OC, hydro, codeine, morphine and straight dope before but never done dillys. I wonder if I'd like them more than I like H or OC, guess I'll have to wait to try em and see for myself.

I have limited experience dillys, I once traded an 2 grams of skunk for 30 x 2mg generics (M 2), never IV'd anything only snorted and ime with 6mgs at once it produces subtle mental euphoria that is nothing to write home about but really hard to forget when you run out, even when you have other opes on hand they just seem to be "shallow" or lacking some aspect of the opiate high.

Im also curious if any of you have ever done oxymorphone, and how does that compare to other opiates.

Im also curious if any of you have ever done oxymorphone, and how does that compare to other opiates.

Opana feels just like oxycontin but is very potent and hard to dose.

For example, I snort 4mg and I'm hight but not high enough, I snort 7mg and I'm puking every where... seems like 5.5mg is the best dose.

Oxymorphone is legit.

yea they got different effects, thats a no brainer. you know your a junkie on the chase when your getting high with the whole arsenal...

its easier to relatively gauge an opiate to another one or two...


you might find yourself preferring to snort oxy over heroin bet when it comes to shooting you prefer the heroin. its not unusual..

yea they got different effects, thats a no brainer.
Well i didnt ask if they had different effects, but how are the effects different, and I really would like to hear your opinion on that subject.

As far as my limited experience with opiates, this is what I experienced

Chewed hydrocodone up to 60mgs at once, and up to 180mgs in 12hr period, and for me it is relativley euphoric, restless AND sedating at once, with additction creeping in without a warning (starts with every weekend thing, progresses to every other day, progresses to once a day then to 2-3 times a day, and in 6 months you find yourself eating 8-12 10/325 every day and not even get high unless you smoke weed along with it.). Orally it hits within 45minutes peaks in 2hrs and altogether lasts 4-5 hours. No constipation problems for months of daily abuse.

Fentanyl patches, worn on the biceps or arm (dry shaved prior to application), with great effects, also subling'd and bucc'd bb sized blob with little effect (waste). Euphoric for the first few times then it fades to the point where you can not get euphoria unless you dose near O.D. amount, very sedating, less itch than hydroc, high addiction potential. Didn't try smoking, since i've read that you can easily go through few patches a day chasing the high, and wearing it gets me messed up for over 2 days and by if I apply heat i end up pulling the patch off within 2 hours because i get too fucked up.

Poppy pods - Warm euphoric morphine high, that is restless and stimulating due to thebaine content, brewed up to 7 medium pods (must have been really potent batch though since it was almost too much for me), Takes 1-2 hrs to come up, 2-3 to peak and the high last easily over 12 hours.

hydromorphone up to 6mgs snorted with very subtle effects, euphoria seems more mental than tactile, and mental addiction is quite heavy and quicksetting, makes other opiates seem lacking certain aspect of the high.

Please help me not kill myself by accident, and answer the last question regarding fentanyl/oxy mix/

Im a one lucky fucker!
2 x Kadian 100mg (morphine)
3 x O.C. 80
4 x 4mg Hydromorphone
others: trazadone, zanaflex - wtf is this? even worth trying?

100% free, well dude owed me a favor thanks to which he made quick $100 but the oc alone are worth more than that :)

I've never had morphine or oc, can someone tell me what to expect? in comparison to vicodin and fentanyl since thats what im famillar with.

Also, this guy has not a very good clue on what is what, and so if you guys can give me suggestions on pricing on kadians, ocs, and hydromorph, not bulk pricing just like 5-10 at a time... so far he said $60 for oc, $10 for kadian, $5 for hydromorph... considering a standard price for yellow 10/325 hydrocodone in my area is $5, what would you pay for those?

How much morphine is equal to 40mgs of hydrocodone ? not analgestically-wise, but euphorically speaking.

Last question, if I just took of 50mcg/hr watson patch off my arm, when is fent going to be out of me? when is it going to be safe to snort some oc without worring about residual fent in my system fucking me too hard?

Church!

If you google it there is a opiate converter


But i would start out with 50mgs of the morphine if you are not nodding do the rest of the pill

And for oxy blow half an 80 in a few lines if not enough do the rest

I DO NOT MEAN IN THE SAME DAY PICK A DAY FOR EACH DIFFRENT PILL


You are going to love the oxycodone ,I prefer it to all the shit you have

The prices he gave you are pretty standard the oxy is from 35-60 tops is 60 though, and 5 is a little much for the hydrocodone, all the other shit is a fair price

If you google it there is a opiate converter


But i would start out with 50mgs of the morphine if you are not nodding do the rest of the pill

And for oxy blow half an 80 in a few lines if not enough do the rest


You are going to love the oxycodone ,I prefer it to all the shit you have

The prices he gave you are pretty standard the oxy is from 35-60 tops is 60 though, and 5 is a little much for the hydrocodone, all the other shit is a fair price

Thank you for a quick response buddy!
Converter is meant for analgestic equivalency which we both know does not really correspond euphoria. But I will look into it anyways.

50mgs of morphine will have me nodding? I dont even like nodding, nod is in "too much" category for me, i like the functional opiated bliss so your right I do love oxy! just blew 15mgs and its great, and I wouldnt go over 25 from what i feel, so as you can see i dont have that much of a tolerance, but i bet you assumed so because you've read that i had just used fent,and I dont blame you man i noticed 3 day fent binge doubles my tolerance in hydrocodone.

Btw the morph is in a capsule with beads, does that mean crush and snort? crush and eat? i dont bang so not an option.

What do you like better, morphine or hydromorphone? why?

Yeah turn a pop can upside down dump the beads cover with bag and crush em

But morphines bioavalibilty is so low just eat it and snort the oxy if u want to snort shit

I like morphine better because i cant feel shit from hydromorphone cause i dont shoot shit

The bioavalibilty of hydromorph is alsp very low when snorting
But try telling people who shoot it sucks some say it better rush than heroin

i must say you are 1 lucky fuck to get all that for free

i had about 40mgs of oxy and a little fent from a 100mcg patch also today
honestly i did not even catch a nod or even a nice buzz
so pace yourself man tolerance is a bitch i would kill to feel good off 15mgs again

With kadian I always folded a piece of paper in half put the beads in the crease and fold the sides so no beads get out. and then i just rolled a aa battery over the crease with the beads in it.

That is EXACTLY how i crush them adderall xr beads, but i used D cell batteries the big ones are more comfortable to work with.


I like morphine better because i cant feel shit from hydromorphone cause i dont shoot shit

The bioavalibilty of hydromorph is alsp very low when snorting
But try telling people who shoot it sucks some say it better rush than heroin

Hydromorphones give me the most mental high but lacks any type of body buzz, and as weak as it feels at 4-6mgs (i dont go over that from lack of tolerance), I actually read that hydromorph has POTENTIAL to to be more bioavaliable orally by 10% over nasal b.a. it was something like oral 30%-65% oral and 50%-55% nasal. Never tried eating them though. But yea Ive heard of people who pref dilly shot over h.


i must say you are 1 lucky fuck to get all that for free


i had about 40mgs of oxy and a little fent from a 100mcg patch also today
honestly i did not even catch a nod or even a nice buzz
so pace yourself man tolerance is a bitch i would kill to feel good off 15mgs again

Few days off would be painfull but worth it in the long run :) but i feel what you are saying, and Im 100% sure that the culprit is fentanyl, check this: for months even on almost daily usage of hydrocodone I need 45mgs at most to feel where i want to be, 5-6 months ago it was 30mgs and a year ago it was 15-20mgs, then i run into fent patches, In ONE WEEK i wore first patch for 8 hours and took it off when it kicked my ass, same week few days later i wore another patch for maybe 12 hours, subling'd some gel not enough to feel anything... suddenly i need 60mgs of hydrocodone to feel somewhat decent buzz, 60mgs would have me puking a week ago. Fucking fentanyl, there is no euphoria high risk of od and even higher risk of addiction esp when smoked... why do we even fuck with it?

oxy and HM go good together...

with your tolerance issues do 4mgs of hm after doing 30mgs of oxy, it should be nice...


not so sure on the morphine, not my field of expertise, outside of getting it outta morphine [which if you pay attention to SN once and a while, you could learn to do]. i do remember 617's rant on chelated magnesium[sp?] and the increased bioavaibility it has when taken with morphine [both orally/intrasnozilly]




becareful with that chase for euphoria dude alright?

oxy and HM go good together...

with your tolerance issues do 4mgs of hm after doing 30mgs of oxy, it should be nice...


Will try, with little less oxy at first, since 20mgs last night got me into heaven :)


not so sure on the morphine, not my field of expertise, outside of getting it outta morphine [which if you pay attention to SN once and a while, you could learn to do]. i do remember 617's rant on chelated magnesium[sp?] and the increased bioavaibility it has when taken with morphine [both orally/intrasnozilly]


Thanks! i think i just found the posts you speak of. Good advice.


becareful with that chase for euphoria dude alright?
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Will do. I got this new strategy that kinda works, I think of the time between opiates as training excercise for building character and willpower :) It works well if you can make yourself proud of your own efforts.

Oxy: rushing calmness, very similar to hydro but mroe exciting.
Hydro: like weak oxy but more tiring than exciting.
Fent: borderline ego loss if you take enough

basically to me there's 2 kinds of opiates:

"Fun" opiates, i.e. horse and oxy

"Calm" opiates, i.e. hydro and fent