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Old 2008-11-04, 04:19
The_Savage The_Savage is offline
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Default How much ammo do you keep around?

There haven't been a lot of threads lately and i just finished going through trying to unsuccessfully cram more ammo in to my overloaded boxes, so i figgered it was time for another one of these threads. I haven't been shooting much lately but still seem to be buying ammo (It's kind of like women with clothes and shoes really, when there are sales you have to buy! :D ) .

.22LR
900 rounds - mostly Winchester sub-sonic and 3 or 4 boxes of power-points

.22 Mag
50 rounds of 34gr JHP that have been sitting there for about two years because it's too expensive to shoot these days.

.223 Rem
260rnds Wolf 55gr HP
100rnds Winchester 55gr FMJ-BT (Handloads)
80rnds 55gr soft point (Handloads)
60rnds 55gr Sierra BlitzKing (Handloads)

.308 Win
50rnds 178gr Hornady A-MAX in Lapua brass (Handloads)
140rnds 168gr Sierra MatchKing in norma brass (Handloads)
24rnds 110gr HDY Soft Point (Handloads - Work great on roos :D )
50rnds 155gr Lapua Scenar in norma brass (Handloads)
20rnds Win supreme Ballistic Silver Tips that have been sitting there for 3 years because they shoot crap
20rnds 55gr soft point .30-.224 saboted rounds that i must of forgot about and just found....don't even remember loading them.
*Note norma brass is shit, buy lapua.

7.62x54mm
430rnds '85 Albanian Steel core
72rnds '87 Chinese Steel core
20rnds Wolf Gold 150gr FMJ-BT (With tips filed off for ghetto HP's since i can't buy any)

12ga
125rnds 34gram BB's
30rnds 9-pellet 00 Buck
25rnds 42 gram #2's
75rnds 28gr #7.5's
16rnds 3" 10-pellet 000 copper plated buck

Loading crap:
Around 3kg of assorted powders (All ADI)
Around 400 Fed Large rifle primers
Around 700 Fed Small rifle primers
Around 350 .30cal Match bullets from 155gr to 178gr
Around 1000 .224 Projectiles, mostly 55 grainers FMJ, SP, BT, HP
And a .50cal can full of .223 and .308 brass to be loaded.

So roughly 2400 rounds with stuff to load another 800-1000 and I just ordered another 1000 55gr .224" soft point projies ($6.90/100, who could pass on that? :D )
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Old 2008-11-04, 04:28
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Default Re: How much ammo do you keep around?

I haven't inventoried my hoard recently, and it's nothing special, but I've got about 3000 rounds total, in several pertinent calibers.
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Old 2008-11-04, 13:23
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At the moment it's looking like a pretty sad collection though I'm getting paid tomorrow and will be upgrading such significantly.

7.62x54mmR
40 rds. Czech silver tip, mild steel core/light ball
40 rds. USSR 1940's lead core/light ball

.22 LR
150 rds. Remington Thunderbolt

Tomorrow I'll be purchasing 160 rounds of the Czech silver tip for the Mosin and 350 more rounds for the .22
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Old 2008-11-04, 13:25
The Swede The Swede is offline
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*waits for Lava*
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Old 2008-11-04, 15:29
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^ Not to knock him, but IIRC he doesn't have very much.

I have 600 rounds of 7.62x39 in magazines

100 rounds of semi-auto specific .223 (steel case Wolf, 5.56 NATO tracers)

50 rounds of bolt specific .223 (68gr Match, Winchester BSTs)

50 rounds of .40 JHPs (Ranger, Fed Tac Bonded)

35 12ga shells (25 00 buck, 10 slugs)

15 rounds of .45 JHPs

100 rounds of 9x19 (50 XTP, 50 FMJ)

and a handful of .22lr

So, I don't really have much either lol.
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Old 2008-11-04, 15:47
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Not enough compared to all of you.
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Old 2008-11-04, 18:12
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^ Not to knock him, but IIRC he doesn't have very much.


True this. At the moment I'm down to:
600 rounds 5.56 NATO
280 rounds 7.62 NATO
380 rounds 7.62x39mm
250 rounds .357
300 rounds 9mm
150 rounds .22
60 rounds .30-06
50 rounds .25 ACP
50 rounds .38-40 Winchester
44 rounds 8mm
20 rounds .30-30 Winchester
17 rounds .38 Special
14 rounds .45 ACP
5 rounds .22 Short
3 rounds .44-40 Winchester
3 rounds .44 Special
1 round .50 BMG (used as paperweight)
and
1 round 10mm Auto (picked it up at the range for my collection).

As for heavier ordnance I'm down to:

26 M61 Grenades
2 Mk II Pineapple Grenades
1 DM5 Grenade

But I wouldn't find the grenades useful in my security situation anyways. I don't really expect to face more than 3 petty thieves at one time.
Those were just leftovers from the war, but sometimes it is fun to go fishing with them or use them as badger and cat traps :D.
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Old 2008-11-04, 20:20
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Lava, if i ever visit you, may i try one of the m61's?EEK!
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Old 2008-11-04, 20:52
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Lava, if i ever visit you, may i try one of the m61's?EEK!


Totally. :D.
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Old 2008-11-04, 21:09
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Default Re: How much ammo do you keep around?

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Savage
There haven't been a lot of threads lately and i just finished going through trying to unsuccessfully cram more ammo in to my overloaded boxes, so i figgered it was time for another one of these threads. I haven't been shooting much lately but still seem to be buying ammo (It's kind of like women with clothes and shoes really, when there are sales you have to buy! :D ) .

.22LR
900 rounds - mostly Winchester sub-sonic and 3 or 4 boxes of power-points

.22 Mag
50 rounds of 34gr JHP that have been sitting there for about two years because it's too expensive to shoot these days.

.223 Rem
260rnds Wolf 55gr HP
100rnds Winchester 55gr FMJ-BT (Handloads)
80rnds 55gr soft point (Handloads)
60rnds 55gr Sierra BlitzKing (Handloads)

.308 Win
50rnds 178gr Hornady A-MAX in Lapua brass (Handloads)
140rnds 168gr Sierra MatchKing in norma brass (Handloads)
24rnds 110gr HDY Soft Point (Handloads - Work great on roos :D )
50rnds 155gr Lapua Scenar in norma brass (Handloads)
20rnds Win supreme Ballistic Silver Tips that have been sitting there for 3 years because they shoot crap
20rnds 55gr soft point .30-.224 saboted rounds that i must of forgot about and just found....don't even remember loading them.
*Note norma brass is shit, buy lapua.

7.62x54mm
430rnds '85 Albanian Steel core
72rnds '87 Chinese Steel core
20rnds Wolf Gold 150gr FMJ-BT (With tips filed off for ghetto HP's since i can't buy any)

12ga
125rnds 34gram BB's
30rnds 9-pellet 00 Buck
25rnds 42 gram #2's
75rnds 28gr #7.5's
16rnds 3" 10-pellet 000 copper plated buck

Loading crap:
Around 3kg of assorted powders (All ADI)
Around 400 Fed Large rifle primers
Around 700 Fed Small rifle primers
Around 350 .30cal Match bullets from 155gr to 178gr
Around 1000 .224 Projectiles, mostly 55 grainers FMJ, SP, BT, HP
And a .50cal can full of .223 and .308 brass to be loaded.

So roughly 2400 rounds with stuff to load another 800-1000 and I just ordered another 1000 55gr .224" soft point projies ($6.90/100, who could pass on that? :D )


Just out of interest, where do you store this stuff, now I understand it is stored in accordance with the law, but specifically, is this stuff kept in a SAFE place, say away from the BBQ or sleeping areas or something? Lunatic.
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Old 2008-11-05, 00:00
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Default Re: How much ammo do you keep around?

So roughly 2400 rounds with stuff to load another 800-1000 and I just ordered another 1000 55gr .224" soft point projies ($6.90/100, who could pass on that? :D )

Are they the midway dogtown ones? i think i paid 10 per hundred for those.
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Old 2008-11-05, 00:20
The_Savage The_Savage is offline
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^^^
Nope an Australian brand called Highland, they're not overly accurate but work well for spotlighting.

Just out of interest, where do you store this stuff, now I understand it is stored in accordance with the law, but specifically, is this stuff kept in a SAFE place, say away from the BBQ or sleeping areas or something? Lunatic.

My bedroom is the safest place I can store it all, I'm not really worried about risk of explosion.
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Old 2008-11-05, 00:25
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Yeah, the danger of explosion isn't really a prominent one with small arms. It takes a lot to get cartridges to cook off (i.e. open flames) and gunpowder doesn't explode unless tightly confined, otherwise it just burns slowly.
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Old 2008-11-06, 16:27
jodevilgod1 jodevilgod1 is offline
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Rounds will cook off in vehicle fires. Its not cool.

I buy ammo to shoot it, so I never have much laying around. I try to keep 5 or so mags loaded with JHPs for my 1911, the shotgun is full and I have a couple extra boxes laying around, and I just got 500rnds of .223 but most of that will be burned up later today.
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Old 2008-11-06, 16:43
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I buy ammo to shoot it, so I never have much laying around.
Good philosophy, but I differ - I am interested in the purchasing and storage of long term weapons so that should the proverbial shit hit the fan, I am able to protect and provide for myself and loved ones.
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Old 2008-11-06, 16:47
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nobody loves your ass boy
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Old 2008-11-06, 21:03
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]b[.22lr:]b[

50 rounds-Fiocchi

]b[9mm:]b[

50 rounds-Also Fiocchi, 123 grains

The legal limit for pistol ammo over here is 200 rounds, so I have 50% of what I can legally keep in my house.
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Old 2008-11-07, 04:57
jodevilgod1 jodevilgod1 is offline
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Thats cute. Ive seen shit hit the fan several times. What have I learned? 500 rounds wont get an individual any further than 210. Also, 10 year old ammo just aint quite the same as it used to be.

If you wanna stock up ammo, sweet. I wish I could. But Id rather be able to hit my target with a handful of mags, instead of bragging about my giant ammo pile and I havent shot in months blah blah blah.

Thats cool and all but what do you think youre going to protect with all this ammo? Do you think it means you will be able to defeat several dudes with guns that want to kill you? Do you think shooting is not a perishable skill? Or that, because you can stand and calmly sqeeze off a few rounds and hit the paper, that you are a good shooter? Come on guys. Take yourselves a little bit more seriously.

And yea, Im sure a few of you go through 1000 rounds a month and still have 20k more in the shed, well... then you are probobly set.




Good philosophy, but I differ - I am interested in the purchasing and storage of long term weapons so that should the proverbial shit hit the fan, I am able to protect and provide for myself and loved ones.
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Old 2008-11-07, 05:53
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Thats cute. Ive seen shit hit the fan several times. What have I learned? 500 rounds wont get an individual any further than 210. Also, 10 year old ammo just aint quite the same as it used to be.

If you wanna stock up ammo, sweet. I wish I could. But Id rather be able to hit my target with a handful of mags, instead of bragging about my giant ammo pile and I havent shot in months blah blah blah.

Thats cool and all but what do you think youre going to protect with all this ammo? Do you think it means you will be able to defeat several dudes with guns that want to kill you? Do you think shooting is not a perishable skill? Or that, because you can stand and calmly sqeeze off a few rounds and hit the paper, that you are a good shooter? Come on guys. Take yourselves a little bit more seriously.

And yea, Im sure a few of you go through 1000 rounds a month and still have 20k more in the shed, well... then you are probobly set.

Having a sufficient weapon and sufficient amount of ammo is vital in survival situations. It makes it alot easier atleast. the more the better. No matter what in a situation like that if you can secure more ammo, even if you have alot stocked up, it is better becuase you do not know how much you will need or when the next time you will be able to get more.
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Old 2008-11-07, 06:27
The_Savage The_Savage is offline
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Thats cool and all but what do you think youre going to protect with all this ammo?

Nothing, I'm a sport shooter, all that 2400 rounds means is that i should get around 1900-2000 kills with it (Well if i didn't use some much on targets :D ) .

Do you think it means you will be able to defeat several dudes with guns that want to kill you?
Nope, One armed dude with half a clue could kill any one of use given the right motivation.

Do you think shooting is not a perishable skill?
Fuck no! I've slowed down a shitload with the shotgun since i haven't used it much i months. Where i used to be able to account for drop and wind and hold over/off for automatically and drop 90% of targets out to 130ish yards with the .22LR, I no longer can, The only difference is back then it was glued to my hand when now i hardly shooti it, same goes for unsupported with the center fires (Although I can still cut 1-hole groups with the .308 at 200y :D )

Or that, because you can stand and calmly sqeeze off a few rounds and hit the paper, that you are a good shooter? Come on guys. Take yourselves a little bit more seriously.
I consider myself a good shooter if i can consistantly take head shots closer in and heart/lung shots at longer range from possitions i use when hunting/spotlighting. It's actually interesting to shoot a relaxed group then shoot one after sprinting 50 or 100m.
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Old 2008-11-07, 06:38
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Not nearly enough. I usually burn through everything during my sparse range trips(being poor is FUN!), so the only ammunition goals I have are to keep my magazine(s) loaded.
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Old 2008-11-07, 22:22
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Default Re: How much ammo do you keep around?

Thats cool and all but what do you think youre going to protect with all this ammo? Do you think it means you will be able to defeat several dudes with guns that want to kill you? Do you think shooting is not a perishable skill? Or that, because you can stand and calmly sqeeze off a few rounds and hit the paper, that you are a good shooter? Come on guys. Take yourselves a little bit more seriously.
I never said that having a large stock of ammunition means that I am of the ability to defeat multiple dangerous targets, if that's what you're getting at. Owning a gun is nothing without practice, which in and of itself requires many rounds insofar as I'm concerned - but I see having a back-stock as an important step for long-term survival in any serious scenario where normal routes of production and shipping of goods becomes limited.

I'm also not of the persuasion that believes shooting at a paper target with both hands wrapped around the grip equates to a real life scenario. Having been at the range last night I didn't practice as though in an ideal shooting scenario - instead, one handed, "weak arm" one handed, etc. was my style of choice. Much more realistic.

And I'm quite sure everyone here understands that shooting is a perishable skill. The majority of police departments don't hold regular practice shoots and requalification trials without purpose.
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Old 2008-11-08, 23:19
Korivan I'Alagmarae Korivan I'Alagmarae is offline
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about 1000 .223

200 .45

both the .45s and the .223s are a mixture of different types. So all i can give is an approximate number. I need more ammo.
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Old 2008-11-08, 23:23
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With Obama winning office...

How much ammo do I keep around?


Not enough. =/
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Old 2008-11-09, 00:17
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With Obama winning office...

How much ammo do I keep around?


Not enough. =/


Qouted for truth. I ALWAYS make sure that I have at minimum of 15rds of 7.62x39, for personal home defense. I plan on stocking up, id like to get to 500rds .308, 1000rds 7.62x39, 3,000-5,000rds .22lr and if i get an M4 1000rds of .223. At the moment I have.
1000+rds of .22lr
few rds of .32(friend left em in my ammo can when we went shooting)
20rds of 7.62x39
4rds of 7.62x39 TRACER(2red 2green)
12rds of 5.56nato(forgot to turn in a mag one day at zero range)
6shells 12 guage buck shot(just found em in my great grandpas stuff)
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Old 2008-11-09, 04:46
thorazine50x thorazine50x is offline
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Ideally...

3-4K of factory fresh loaded brass in all calibers.

Then time to invest in a reloading setup.
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Old 2008-11-10, 07:32
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Not enough. =/

Indeed. I don't keep nearly as much as I'd like to either. Though it is enough to provide protection of a quick raid of everywhere more ammo is stored(wal-mart, etc) if the proverbial shit should ever really hit the fan.
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Old 2008-11-11, 04:05
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Indeed. I don't keep nearly as much as I'd like to either. Though it is enough to provide protection of a quick raid of everywhere more ammo is stored(wal-mart, etc) if the proverbial shit should ever really hit the fan.

Dude bass proshop and cabelas. Everything you need!!!!!
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Old 2008-12-10, 17:25
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Thats cute. Ive seen shit hit the fan several times. What have I learned? 500 rounds wont get an individual any further than 210. Also, 10 year old ammo just aint quite the same as it used to be.

If you wanna stock up ammo, sweet. I wish I could. But Id rather be able to hit my target with a handful of mags, instead of bragging about my giant ammo pile and I havent shot in months blah blah blah.

Thats cool and all but what do you think youre going to protect with all this ammo? Do you think it means you will be able to defeat several dudes with guns that want to kill you? Do you think shooting is not a perishable skill? Or that, because you can stand and calmly sqeeze off a few rounds and hit the paper, that you are a good shooter? Come on guys. Take yourselves a little bit more seriously.

And yea, Im sure a few of you go through 1000 rounds a month and still have 20k more in the shed, well... then you are probobly set.



You make a good point, ammo lasts alot longer and still shoots straight then you would expect. Most ammo I have used in the military is over 5 years old that was locked up in army storage. I still shoot 40 out of 40 targets with it from 50m to 300m. Its not the gun who makes a man let alone his bullet, its what he does before he uses the weapon.

Shooting straight in realistic enviroments and being able to get a close kill you can't miss is all that counts. People believe that the more rounds you have gives you an advantage. One shot One Kill is the only advantage. You train like that and you realize a full combat load is more then enough. You get in a real life fire fight like iraq you wouldn't believe how much training goes out the window and it takes you 1 mag to suppress an enemy and 1 mag to then kill him. Out of 7 issued mags that is horrible and I say this from a Infantry perspective its embarressing but understandable in a situation like that. You always have to take these considerations into factor. We are only issued 7 mags fully loaded and enough to re-fill all of them once in our assault packs. Its all you should need as a civilian. Remember 9 out of 10 will shit themselves when they see a gun even in the end of the world ;).

Be wary of Feds though lol.
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Old 2008-12-11, 15:07
J-Beth J-Beth is offline
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5 shells of 9 pellet 00 buckshot, thats it.
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Old 2008-12-11, 15:13
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Be wary of Feds though lol.

? But when people come from the government, they come to help.
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Old 2008-12-11, 16:04
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You get in a real life fire fight like iraq you wouldn't believe how much training goes out the window and it takes you 1 mag to suppress an enemy and 1 mag to then kill him. Out of 7 issued mags that is horrible and I say this from a Infantry perspective its embarressing but understandable in a situation like that. You always have to take these considerations into factor. We are only issued 7 mags fully loaded and enough to re-fill all of them once in our assault packs. Its all you should need as a civilian. Remember 9 out of 10 will shit themselves when they see a gun even in the end of the world ;).

Be wary of Feds though lol.

Ohh well. It's better to keep them under suppressing fire than for them to keep you, even if you can't kill them. ;)

Thanks for the mag count info, though.
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Old 2008-12-11, 17:45
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Anytime ;). I just remember how hard it was in basic to zero 3 rounds and then when they told me we only carry 7 mags w/ 28 rounds per (military = crappy spending = shitty mags = 28 in a mag they feel jams less, ehh on that I beg to differ) I nearly crapped myself and learned to shoot real fast.


? But when people come from the government, they come to help.

Haha touche some I would believe but coming now from the other side of the fence I doubt it now. You would be surprised at how many folks in the military want America to be invaded and or another civil war. Guess the motto is if you can't beat em, join em and with the limitless crappy ammo the military has they see it as a no brainer. I personally told some of my buddies if a situation like that occurs when I'm out dont come my way friendship wont matter in that case.

Its all joking but people dont realize its just average joe protecting your country, running your law enforcement and taking your freedoms, just underpaid compared to celebs and ceo's. That is a deadly combo if you ask me.
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Old 2008-12-11, 19:29
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the whole 28 round thing is because its hard to insert a mag with 30 rounds on a closed bolt, and the people that believe in "spring set"

I put 30 in my m4 mags.
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Old 2008-12-11, 21:22
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Concerning the next AWB and possible import surplus limitations that may be included therein I've been buying a shit-ton of 7.62x54mm ammunition. At the end of this month I should have around 2,000 rounds stockpiled.
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Old 2008-12-11, 22:30
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Concerning the next AWB and possible import surplus limitations that may be included therein I've been buying a shit-ton of 7.62x54mm ammunition. At the end of this month I should have around 2,000 rounds stockpiled.


wtf are you going to do with 2000 rounds of 7.62x54 in a bolt action rifle? If shtf you will need like 200 rounds.
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Old 2008-12-11, 23:45
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wtf are you going to do with 2000 rounds of 7.62x54 in a bolt action rifle? If shtf you will need like 200 rounds.

My brother bought around 2400 7.62x54, and is going to be buying more. :D

But it's not true for a shtf scenario. Maybe for nothing but hunting it should last you a while. However, if you needed it for protection (lets not kid ourselves, it might not be the best round for self defense but when it's all you got especially at range) it's best not to limit yourself to such a small amount. Moreso since it is not much of a domestically produced round.
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Old 2008-12-12, 00:25
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Its all joking but people dont realize its just average joe protecting your country, running your law enforcement and taking your freedoms, just underpaid compared to celebs and ceo's. That is a deadly combo if you ask me.

Exactly. I've done enough government work to be afraid. Very afraid.

the whole 28 round thing is because its hard to insert a mag with 30 rounds on a closed bolt, and the people that believe in "spring set"

I put 30 in my m4 mags.

I put 30 in my AR mags as well.
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Old 2008-12-12, 00:54
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Concerning the next AWB and possible import surplus limitations that may be included therein I've been buying a shit-ton of 7.62x54mm ammunition. At the end of this month I should have around 2,000 rounds stockpiled.


Nice, How much are you paying for cans/cases?
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Old 2008-12-13, 00:56
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I just bought;
200 rounds of american eagle tactical Xm193 5.56x45mm 55gr fmj
50 rounds of blackhills .223 match 75gr hps.
2 boxes of 12ga 00 9 pellet buckshot(contains 5)
2 boxes of12ga rifled slugs(contains 5) both shotgun rounds are 2 3/4s
Total was 180$

My brother bought around 2400 7.62x54, and is going to be buying more. :D

But it's not true for a shtf scenario. Maybe for nothing but hunting it should last you a while. However, if you needed it for protection (lets not kid ourselves, it might not be the best round for self defense but when it's all you got especially at range) it's best not to limit yourself to such a small amount. Moreso since it is not much of a domestically produced round.

I would rather have a decent 22lr for shtf rifle than a m44. Dont get me wrong the m44 is alright but they are just so old I dont know how well they would hold up.
Concerning the next AWB and possible import surplus limitations that may be included therein I've been buying a shit-ton of 7.62x54mm ammunition. At the end of this month I should have around 2,000 rounds stockpiled.

I wouldnt worry about 7.62x54 being limited for import. 7.62 39 is more known as the assault rifle round. 54 is not very known.
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Old 2008-12-14, 02:48
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I wouldnt worry about 7.62x54 being limited for import. 7.62 39 is more known as the assault rifle round. 54 is not very known.

It's possible they might simply ban all imported ammo. Possibly under the guise of "protecting American business/economy"

And to whoever said you would only need 200 rounds in a SHTF situation, keep in mind SHTF could mean many different things and many different lengths of time, you might need your supply to last for weeks or even years if the shit truly hit the fan, you are looking at days at least even in the most forgiving situations. Depending on how bad things all you might run out of 200 rounds in a few hours considering you will probably miss a lot under pressure with the enemy possibly taking cover.
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Old 2008-12-14, 04:24
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Nice, How much are you paying for cans/cases?
Depends on where I go. Anywhere from $0.20 to $0.40 cents per round, Russian 1940's surplus at the lower end and Czech silver tip at the higher end. Mostly been buying the silver tips though the 40's surp still goes bang! like it was made yesterday.
wtf are you going to do with 2000 rounds of 7.62x54 in a bolt action rifle? If shtf you will need like 200 rounds.
I'm going to respectfully disagree. My version of a SHTF scenario involves large scale disruption of commerce, bandits roaming the countryside and those whom are well-prepared having to play defense from others willing to pillage. Between practice shooting now, hunting and long-range self-defense shooting in a SHTF scenario, I think 2,000 rounds isn't enough still. Especially against zombies. Mad
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Old 2008-12-14, 05:10
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And to whoever said you would only need 200 rounds in a SHTF situation, keep in mind SHTF could mean many different things and many different lengths of time, you might need your supply to last for weeks or even years if the shit truly hit the fan, you are looking at days at least even in the most forgiving situations. Depending on how bad things all you might run out of 200 rounds in a few hours considering you will probably miss a lot under pressure with the enemy possibly taking cover.



Just as I mentioned earlier you can and will miss no matter how good a shot you are even under pressure. If bullets or objects are flying your way best believe at the best 1 in every 2 shots might hit a target. Your confidence with a gun drops significantly when people more then yourself armed are coming your way, much less shooting at you and even more shooting back when your shooting at them and still coming.

You will have skid marks on your underwear even if you just showered I guarantee!
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Old 2008-12-14, 05:22
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Just as I mentioned earlier you can and will miss no matter how good a shot you are even under pressure. If bullets or objects are flying your way best believe at the best 1 in every 2 shots might hit a target. Your confidence with a gun drops significantly when people more then yourself armed are coming your way, much less shooting at you and even more shooting back when your shooting at them and still coming.

You will have skid marks on your underwear even if you just showered I guarantee!
I don't know; maybe if you're on an open field or otherwise exposed, your confience level drops, but my version of a SHTF scenario involves lying hidden in a camouflaged blind targeting those whom I deem to be a thread from a distance.

"I am a stone. I do not move. Very slowly, I put snow in my mouth, then he won't see my breath. I take my time. I let him come closer. I have only one bullet. I aim at his eye. Very gently, my finger presses on the trigger. I do not tremble. I have no fear."
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Old 2008-12-14, 06:30
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A much more realistic line would be something like...

"Fuck me! that's a fuckin' zombie! BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAM....BAM...BAMBAM.....Did you see that shit man!?"
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Old 2008-12-14, 06:42
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A much more realistic line would be something like...

"Fuck me! that's a fuckin' zombie! BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAM....BAM...BAMBAM.....Did you see that shit man!?"

The first thing that came to mind when reading that was the bit in the original Dawn of the Dead with the rednecks hanging out shootin' the shit out of some walking deaders. :)
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Old 2008-12-14, 06:49
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It's possible they might simply ban all imported ammo. Possibly under the guise of "protecting American business/economy"

And to whoever said you would only need 200 rounds in a SHTF situation, keep in mind SHTF could mean many different things and many different lengths of time, you might need your supply to last for weeks or even years if the shit truly hit the fan, you are looking at days at least even in the most forgiving situations. Depending on how bad things all you might run out of 200 rounds in a few hours considering you will probably miss a lot under pressure with the enemy possibly taking cover.

i am talking about for his bolt action m44. after 50 rouds through it he wouldnt even be able to work the action on the m44 anymore.
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Old 2008-12-14, 07:15
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"I am a stone. I do not move. Very slowly, I put snow in my mouth, then he won't see my breath. I take my time. I let him come closer. I have only one bullet. I aim at his eye. Very gently, my finger presses on the trigger. I do not tremble. I have no fear."


Good and bad quote to use. Great ideal scenario only thing is if I remember correctly he missed that first shot lol ;) point proven? But I aswell train one shot one kill.
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Old 2008-12-14, 07:27
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Good and bad quote to use. Great ideal scenario only thing is if I remember correctly he missed that first shot lol ;) point proven? But I aswell train one shot one kill.
Indeed he did miss that first shot. And while it may seem mall-ninjalike to use a somewhat historically inaccurate film about sniping when discussing a SHTF scenario, I think any man worth his salt preparing for such a situation would think to act in the manner of a sniper. It's about playing smart, not fair. :)
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Old 2008-12-14, 17:54
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Well spoken sir agreed! Now if only money grew on trees and I could afford my AR project life would be gravy :(.
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Old 2009-01-05, 00:55
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I was at Wal-Mart the other day and inquired as to the cost of .22LR rounds. Turkish lady running the outdoors counter told me $12.49 per brick, so I went ahead and bought six and now have 3,000 rounds of ammo for my 10/22 tucked away.

Need to buy some desiccant to ensure it stays dry along with the 7.62x54mm rounds I've got with it. Gonna buy some more of that soon as well, hoping to cachè 1,000 or so rounds.
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Old 2009-01-05, 01:30
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Damn, nice buy! ;) .

My .223rem stores have gone up a bit since last time, my landlord dropped me off 10 boxes of winchester 55gr factory loads about 2 weeks ago, I've gone through those and reloaded them with 55gr soft points so he'll probably drop some more off soon. ATM I have around 600 rounds of 55gr SP handloads but i've been going through 60 - 130 rounds a night. Anyone know where i can buy a pre-owned Helper monkey to prep brass? :D

O/T but i bumped into a group of 7 wallabies the other night ranged from 75y - 150y all being atleast 50y away from the bushline, So i started with the ones closest to cover and 7 rounds and about 10 seconds latter all 7 we on the ground dead. The remmy 7615 is growing on me :D .
edit: was shooting from unsupported standing btw :) .
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Old 2009-01-05, 01:33
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I was at Wal-Mart the other day and inquired as to the cost of .22LR rounds. Turkish lady running the outdoors counter told me $12.49 per brick, so I went ahead and bought six and now have 3,000 rounds of ammo for my 10/22 tucked away.

Need to buy some desiccant to ensure it stays dry along with the 7.62x54mm rounds I've got with it. Gonna buy some more of that soon as well, hoping to cachè 1,000 or so rounds.


I would of went with 1 or 2 bricks of quality ammo like cci over the cheap bulk packs.
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Old 2009-01-05, 01:34
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Good job Savage! Next time takes pictures. :)
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Old 2009-01-05, 01:40
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rabbit vs 55gr SP :D .

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/vasShadow3/rabbit_vs_223.jpg
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rabbit vs 55gr SP :D .

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e143/vasShadow3/rabbit_vs_223.jpg

I approve. :)

Are wallabies and rabbits just a free-for-all shoot 'em up where you live?

ilovechronic - the rounds I picked up were Winchester 36-gr. hollow points. As far as quality is concerned in my opinion they're fine.
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Old 2009-01-05, 02:02
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Rabbits and possums you can shoot when ever you want, wallabies and roos you need a permit for but there are no bag limits. ATM i'm doing some population control, in the last couple of weeks i've dropped well over 350 wallabies with a bunch of rabbits, possums and roos thrown in as well ;) .
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Old 2009-01-05, 02:31
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I would of went with 1 or 2 bricks of quality ammo like cci over the cheap bulk packs.

Good stuff can come in bulk too. I can get 500 rounds of Federal JHP for $12-14. It's no CCI, but it'll almost always go bang, and it's not like it's dirty or anything.
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Old 2009-01-05, 07:48
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Good stuff can come in bulk too. I can get 500 rounds of Federal JHP for $12-14. It's no CCI, but it'll almost always go bang, and it's not like it's dirty or anything.

federal bulk packs are decent for the money. but those bulk packs that are more pricey that are made by cci, win, rem all make very nice bulk packs of .22s. If my like is going to depend on it i will spend the extra 20$ on some more quality ammo.
remington golden bullets are the WORST.
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Old 2009-01-05, 08:48
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Let's see... As far as I recall (Haven't been in my safe on over a month, deployed overseas currently)

.22LR:
600 odd rounds total, a mix of Winnie subs, old german pistol ammo, remmy subs, and powepoints, as well as federal value packs.

.223 (not much as I dont have a .223 currently)
60rnds assorted JHP

.243:
Maybe 50, a mix of reloads (nosler ballistic tips) and factory.

.308Norma:
Only a few rounds, but dies and cases for at least 100

9mm:
50 odd assorted.

.38 Spec:
100 or so, again reloading stuff for over 500

.357-
Same deal as .38

.303-
1500 or so indian surplus (yeah shit but cheap, specially when it was bought)

7.62x54:
700 rnds Albanian

12ga:
Fucking heaps. Like... 400 or so, and some slugs.

There are some misc ones as well that I cannot recall currently.

If I ever move to the USA I will have a rediculous ammount of ammo to feed the AR15's I am gonna get.
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Old 2009-01-06, 02:56
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.22 Lr
5k rounds federal game-shok (picked it up for 140$ from some guy that was selling off his gun collection)
plus another 1 or 2k of federal champions (6 bricks of 525 with varying amounts in them can't be assed to count em)

7.62x39
1500+ of wolf 122Gr FMJ (same deal as the .22 bought 2 cases of 1000 and have used varying amounts from different boxes)

.308
100 rounds federal 168 Gr BTHP

12Ga
50 federal vital-shok 00 buck shot
50 or so brenneke black magic slugs
(home defense loadout 5 00 buckshot then 4 slugs no one lives with me/around me so I'd rather have to patch up a few walls then have to patch up bullet holes in myself)
 
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