About
Community
Bad Ideas
Drugs
Ego
Erotica
Fringe
Society
Technology
register | bbs | search | rss | faq | about
meet up | add to del.icio.us | digg it
Go Back   Community > Vices > Better Living Through Chemistry
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 #1 
Old 2008-11-02, 17:24
Regular
 
Default Pseudoephedrine Amphetamine Cross Tolerance?

Last week I got a pretty bad cold and I have been taking about 240mg of sudafed a day for about a week. I want to pop some adderall but I'm afraid it might not be that good because of all the sudafed. Has anyone here had a cross tolerance problem with sudafed and adderall?
 #2 
Old 2008-11-02, 17:28
Regular
 
NJ
Default Re: Pseudoephedrine Amphetamine Cross Tolerance?

its not like you took sudafed long enough to build a tolerance...so it shouldnt matter.
 #3 
Old 2008-11-02, 17:31
Regular
 
Default Re: Pseudoephedrine Amphetamine Cross Tolerance?

How long would I have to take sudefad at that dose to gain a tolerance then?
 #4 
Old 2008-11-03, 18:15
Regular
 
Default Re: Pseudoephedrine Amphetamine Cross Tolerance?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwerjack
its not like you took sudafed long enough to build a tolerance...so it shouldnt matter.


Hey, I think your wrong. I took 80mg like 4 hours ago and I'm not where I should be.
 #5 
Old 2008-11-03, 18:19
Pinback Pinback is offline
Regular
 
Default Re: Pseudoephedrine Amphetamine Cross Tolerance?

I doubt there is any sort of noticeable tolerance from a week of sudafed use and then popping some adderall.
 #6 
Old 2008-11-04, 02:27
Regular
 
Default Re: Pseudoephedrine Amphetamine Cross Tolerance?

Well, let's see... what do we know?

We know that ephedrine, and its impotent bastard half-brother pseudoephedrine, reverse the reuptake transporter in noradrenergic terminus.

We know that amphetamine reverses the reuptake transporter in all catecholaminic termini - dopamine, noradrenaline, and adrenaline.

We know that anything which relies on vessicular storage is dependent on the plentitude of vessicular storage...

...SO, what WOULD theoretically happen is that you get full stimulation from the adrenaline, reduced stimulation from the noradrenaline, and full euphoria from the dopamine. In theory.

Frankly, ephedrine abuse could be kinda cool just to adjust the effects of later amphetamine use slightly. In theory. ;)

Unfortunately for theory, what actually happens involves that NMDA-gated Ca++ exiotoxicity in the nucleus accumbens is at least in part conditional to its role as a secondary messenger for NE in the amygdala... which means that, in practice, the "less edgy, moar euphoria" outcome only works if you've been practicing harm reduction like you should have been, at least with regards to an NMDA-antagonist neuroprotective. Otherwise, your dopamine floods forth like a virgin dome(head), but you are insensitized to it, and since your NE's not flooding forth, being depleted, you get...

...epinephrine. 'n some dopamine that you can't even feel, but as far as things you can feel... epinephrine.

I fully advocating knowing how things work before putting them in your body, and I also advocate the conscious use of harm-reduction techniques.
 
To the best of our knowledge, the text on this page may be freely reproduced and distributed.
 

totse.com certificate signatures
 
 
About | Community | Bad Ideas | Drugs | Ego | Erotica | Fringe | Society | Technology
Hot Topics