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 #1 
Old 2008-11-02, 00:35
Acolyte
 
Default Three questions regarding salvia and acid

Three questions:

Just got my free 1.5g salvia leaves and .5g of 5x in the mail today. I don't have access to a sitter.

1. My first question is this; I've seen videos of people loudly laughing and yelling while tripping on salvia.

Is this controllable?

I was thinking of smoking some of the extract tonight on our family's back porch, but I don't want to wake up my parents or my sister and subsequently get caught.

2. My second question; for how much could I sell the salvia for? Worse comes to worse, I might just sell the leaves and extract to one of my friends that deals.

3. My final question; what is considered "chronic use" of LSD? Once a day? Once a week? ECT?


Thank you in advance. :p
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Old 2008-11-02, 00:39
Acolyte
 
Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

Quote:
Originally Posted by GD!
Three questions:

Just got my free 1.5g salvia leaves and .5g of 5x in the mail today. I don't have access to a sitter.

1. My first question is this; I've seen videos of people loudly laughing and yelling while tripping on salvia.

Is this controllable?

I was thinking of smoking some of the extract tonight on our family's back porch, but I don't want to wake up my parents or my sister and subsequently get caught.

2. My second question; for how much could I sell the salvia for? Worse comes to worse, I might just sell the leaves and extract to one of my friends that deals.

3. My final question; what is considered "chronic use" of LSD? Once a day? Once a week? ECT?


Thank you in advance. :p


1. No
2. $40 maybe to someone stupid.
3. I couldn't see myself doing acid more than once every month or two. And thats alot.
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Old 2008-11-02, 00:48
Street_Pharmacist420 Street_Pharmacist420 is offline
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

Quote:
Originally Posted by GD!
Three questions:

Just got my free 1.5g salvia leaves and .5g of 5x in the mail today. I don't have access to a sitter.

1. My first question is this; I've seen videos of people loudly laughing and yelling while tripping on salvia.

Is this controllable?

I was thinking of smoking some of the extract tonight on our family's back porch, but I don't want to wake up my parents or my sister and subsequently get caught.

2. My second question; for how much could I sell the salvia for? Worse comes to worse, I might just sell the leaves and extract to one of my friends that deals.

3. My final question; what is considered "chronic use" of LSD? Once a day? Once a week? ECT?


Thank you in advance. :p


1. How you act on salvia is entirley dependent on you; nobody on here can honestly tell you how you will or will not act under the influence of salvia

2. $10, if that; its a minial amount

3. Once a month; acid tolerance builds up way too quickly so using it everyday is out of the question. Even if used once a week, your trip would still be deplenished
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Old 2008-11-02, 00:51
Acolyte
 
Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

1. How you act on salvia is entirley dependent on you; nobody on here can honestly tell you how you will or will not act under the influence of salvia


Not really, "you" usually refers to the persons conscience self...hence..slightly inaccurate? In most cases the user has as much control over their actions during the trip as they would over a dream. Uncontrollable laughter is a common side effect, yelling not so much. Not that its going to be mattering much to you at the time.
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Old 2008-11-02, 00:53
Acolyte
 
Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

1. How you act on salvia is entirley dependent on you; nobody on here can honestly tell you how you will or will not act under the influence of salvia

2. $10, if that; its a minial amount

3. Once a month; acid tolerance builds up way too quickly so using it everyday is out of the question. Even if used once a week, your trip would still be deplenished
1. Okay.

2. Okay.

3. I dropped yesterday, and I was thinking about dropping again next weekend; I thought that tolerance goes away after a few days?
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Old 2008-11-02, 00:55
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

Not really, "you" usually refers to the persons conscience self...hence..slightly inaccurate? In most cases the user has as much control over their actions during the trip as they would over a dream.

He didn't say you'd have control, he said theres no way for anyone to tell whether you will or will not.
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Old 2008-11-02, 00:58
Acolyte
 
Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

Thanks, so I'd assume that it'd be a bad idea to do the salvia :( .
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Old 2008-11-02, 01:02
Street_Pharmacist420 Street_Pharmacist420 is offline
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

Not really, "you" usually refers to the persons conscience self...hence..slightly inaccurate? In most cases the user has as much control over their actions during the trip as they would over a dream.

Unless you are a lucid dreamer, I do not understand how you would go about controlling a dream? Even while lucid dreaming, the person in question has no ability to control his/her bodily functions. Also, I do not consider dreaming to be at all the conscience thought process at work; mostly it is the unconscious that has the most effect on your dreams. Superego rules all....

And GD, you can no doubtly take more hits next week and still trip, I just do not feel that you will not get the full potential out of the trip. Also, when you start taking acid every weekend it ruins the purpose of acid; now you are just doing it to get fucked up, not to learn or to explore anything. And that IMO IS the biggest waste of lsd.
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Old 2008-11-02, 01:11
Acolyte
 
Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

Ok.... I might just try to smoke the plain dried leaves. Do the plain leaves commonly invoke full blown hallucinations, or is it more of a body high?

As far as wasting the acid trip; I feel that I didn't get the full experience yesterday, and I really want to experience acid for all that it is. Consequently, I am anxious to try acid one more time, and as soon as possible (without wasting the potential of the trip).

edit: after that, I wouldn't take it again for a minimum of a few months.
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Old 2008-11-02, 01:22
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

I did 5x extract for the first time tonight, I was all excited because I saw videos of people fucking tripping their balls off. Me and my friend split a gram and we didn't have shit happen to us, the best thing that happened to me was I saw a blue halo around lights, but that's it. It was a decent body high, but no hallucinations. Fucking disappointing.

But now that I think about it, we did smoke it out of a pipe, just using a regular lighter, even though the shit went right down to ash. If it really matters on the lighter and out of a bong I'll put up the 20 for another gram, but w/e.
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Old 2008-11-02, 01:24
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

As far as wasting the acid trip; I feel that I didn't get the full experience yesterday, and I really want to experience acid for all that it is. Consequently, I am anxious to try acid one more time, and as soon as possible (without wasting the potential of the trip).

edit: after that, I wouldn't take it again for a minimum of a few months.

wait a month...or at least 2 weeks, wait for the perfect time to drop it, free from any hassles, when your tolerance is down again and your mind is recovered from the one you did last night. No reason to rush, especially with LSD.
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Old 2008-11-02, 01:38
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SomeEverydayNobody
Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

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Originally Posted by Proxymatic
I did 5x extract for the first time tonight, I was all excited because I saw videos of people fucking tripping their balls off. Me and my friend split a gram and we didn't have shit happen to us, the best thing that happened to me was I saw a blue halo around lights, but that's it. It was a decent body high, but no hallucinations. Fucking disappointing.

But now that I think about it, we did smoke it out of a pipe, just using a regular lighter, even though the shit went right down to ash. If it really matters on the lighter and out of a bong I'll put up the 20 for another gram, but w/e.


I've done 5x a couple times. If it hits you you'll know. Its not strong enough that you'll be rolling around making noise [most likely, but that could just be me] but you'll definitely be feeling fucking weird. One time, for a few minutes, I forgot I had smoked it and was just laying there trying to wrap my mind around why the room was trying to pull itself over my head.

I don't think 5x will have you making all kinds of noise or anything. Especially if you're otherwise experienced.
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Old 2008-11-02, 01:55
Acolyte
 
Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

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Originally Posted by Proxymatic
I did 5x extract for the first time tonight, I was all excited because I saw videos of people fucking tripping their balls off. Me and my friend split a gram and we didn't have shit happen to us, the best thing that happened to me was I saw a blue halo around lights, but that's it. It was a decent body high, but no hallucinations. Fucking disappointing.

But now that I think about it, we did smoke it out of a pipe, just using a regular lighter, even though the shit went right down to ash. If it really matters on the lighter and out of a bong I'll put up the 20 for another gram, but w/e.


happening to me right now it's like being really drunk
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Old 2008-11-02, 05:02
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

1. My first question is this; I've seen videos of people loudly laughing and yelling while tripping on salvia.

Is this controllable?

I was thinking of smoking some of the extract tonight on our family's back porch, but I don't want to wake up my parents or my sister and subsequently get caught.

not if you end up breaking through.... if you manage to get enough chemical into your lungs in 30 seconds your not even going to be far from anything you have ever known.... your body might be laughing, but whats going on in your head will likely be completly different.... I am a rather quiet person while on salvia, but its a hit an miss thing for a person....

oh and a back porch really isn't a great place to do it, especially if its elevated.... too many things like tables or chairs or stairs to fall and hit your head on if you trip on something you dont see at all....


2. My second question; for how much could I sell the salvia for? Worse comes to worse, I might just sell the leaves and extract to one of my friends that deals.
your trying to deal something that is legal anyways, its free i guess so you could sell it for like 10-15 to someone dumb....


3. My final question; what is considered "chronic use" of LSD? Once a day? Once a week? ECT?

using lsd once a day will cause your tolerance to skyrocket to the point of it being too expensive to even get a mild trip after time.... i would consider once every few days to a week pretty chronic use or about as chronic as it can get.... its not like its addictive, whenever i trip i dont really want to for at least another couple weeks and usually longer but it varies with how hard i tripped the last time... a lighter trip will leave me wanting to have done more, a stronger trip will cause me to have to pick up the pieces of my mind, rebuild, and sort out what the fuck had happened... that can take a while....

I did 5x extract for the first time tonight, I was all excited because I saw videos of people fucking tripping their balls off. Me and my friend split a gram and we didn't have shit happen to us, the best thing that happened to me was I saw a blue halo around lights, but that's it. It was a decent body high, but no hallucinations. Fucking disappointing.

But now that I think about it, we did smoke it out of a pipe, just using a regular lighter, even though the shit went right down to ash. If it really matters on the lighter and out of a bong I'll put up the 20 for another gram, but w/e.

my firs time with salvia i broke through on 1/6th of a gram of 7x using a bowl and a bic lighter.... me and my friend both have pretty good lungs for handling hot and harsh smoke and managed to hold it in for a while... we both broke through the first time, the other friend with us ended up coughing and not getting anything but a fucked up sense of gravity....

did you hold the lighter on it the entire time? salvia isn't just something your supposed to cherry and go from there... if your using a bic you need to have it on the plant material the entire time and hold the smoke in for 30-40 seconds... its easier out of a bong because its not nearly as harsh but i pipe will do if you heat it well enough and can handle the harshness...
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Old 2008-11-02, 08:09
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

My final question; what is considered "chronic use" of LSD? Once a day? Once a week? ECT?

Just don't make a habit of it and get in over your head. I made that mistake last summer. I did way too many psychedelics in too short a period of time and paid for it.

But it also did me some good.

Just do it a handful of times over the next few months if you must.
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Old 2008-11-02, 13:17
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

did you hold the lighter on it the entire time? salvia isn't just something your supposed to cherry and go from there... if your using a bic you need to have it on the plant material the entire time and hold the smoke in for 30-40 seconds... its easier out of a bong because its not nearly as harsh but i pipe will do if you heat it well enough and can handle the harshness...

That's what I was looking to see. I told my friend that we were supposed to keep the lighter on it while smoking it, but he was just like "its cherried, go for it." And yeah, its pretty fucking harsh out of a pipe, smells dank too. Thanks for the pointers there, I'll get some more today maybe.
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Old 2008-11-02, 14:46
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

Sell the leaves for about 10 and the 5x for like 8 or 10. i would sell the leaves, if you haven't done it before, they taste horrible, you have to keep them in your mouth for 30-45 min before you start feeling noticeable effects, and the "trip" isn't that strong. it lasts from 45 min-1 1/2 hours though. Salvia tolerance depends on the person using it, I know people who can smoke a whole bowl of 20x and not feel anything, it only takes one hit of 10x for me to enter the 38457th dimension. You should use a butane lighter or a torch lighter when you're lighting because salvia burns at a much higher temperature than bud or tobacco, and a shitt y bic won't work very well.
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Old 2008-11-02, 19:26
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

1. No
2. $40 maybe to someone stupid.
3. I couldn't see myself doing acid more than once every month or two. And thats alot.

That's not really a lot.
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Old 2008-11-02, 19:30
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i've only ever laughed when i was around other people. dont trip with other people it really ruins it. when i'm alone i don't laugh or do antything i just ride alone with the journey. with other people i feel the "journey" is greatly diminished and that you'll just get really annoyed at the person and everything they do.
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Old 2008-11-02, 19:33
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

Ok.... I might just try to smoke the plain dried leaves. Do the plain leaves commonly invoke full blown hallucinations, or is it more of a body high?



i can breakthrough on leaf, i dont hallucinate but i still venture into salvia land, although it doesn't get me quite where i'm wanting to go... everytime i do salvia i put leaf on the bottom of the bowl and do TINY pinches of 5x or 10x.. this way it's easier to gauge the doses because if you use just tiny pinches of extract in a pipe it will just fall through the hole and so you don't have to load big bowls just to fill the hole up.
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Old 2008-11-02, 19:37
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

[QUOTE=ReclaimPublicSpace;10634152] i would sell the leaves, if you haven't done it before, they taste horrible, you have to keep them in your mouth for 30-45 min before you start feeling noticeable effects, and the "trip" isn't that strong.



um you don't have to quid the leaves you can smoke them as well for a stronger effect. OP don't listen to this guy i say you try leaves first just so you get the feel for it and don't get scared away from salvia right away, and then when your ready try small pinches of extract.,
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Old 2008-11-02, 21:31
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

I would recommend you to get 20x or higher.



and don't stop lighting it if you're using BIC.




Try to finish it in one hit(I'd say....a good pitch worth of saliva will get the job done or half of your bowl)

Once you break through, it will hit you before you know it.
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Old 2008-11-02, 22:35
Acolyte
 
Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

Last night I smoked it all over the course of an hour. All it did was give me a body high, like being really drunk but with clear head.


I might get some 10x or 15x one day and try it again.
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Old 2008-11-02, 22:37
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Default Re: Three questions regarding salvia and acid

That's what I was looking to see. I told my friend that we were supposed to keep the lighter on it while smoking it, but he was just like "its cherried, go for it." And yeah, its pretty fucking harsh out of a pipe, smells dank too. Thanks for the pointers there, I'll get some more today maybe.

you think its harsh after just cherrying it.... wait until the smoke starts getting hotter from the constant flame...

try to get as much smoke as you can but leave a little bit of room in your lungs so that you can get a little bit of cold fresh air and to force the rest of the smoke down....

if all goes well you wont even be aware of your lungs in about 30-40 seconds....
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Old 2008-11-02, 23:16
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smoke salvia in a bong
 
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