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 #1 
Old 2008-10-31, 01:26
Acolyte
 
Default Potential For Brain Damage?

I've been hearing that taking recreational dosages of vicodin, even once or twice, can cause brain damage.

Is this true?

I took 5 5/500's over the course of an hour last weekend.

I was planning on taking 6 5/500's at once this weekend, but now I'm a little freaked out.

So what, if any, physical or neurological damage can be caused by recreational dosages at the 25-30mg level?

Last weekend was my first time with any type of drug, so it's not like I have a tolerance.
 #2 
Old 2008-10-31, 01:33
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Ohio
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

Lol wut?

If anything you'll damage your liver with that much acetaminophen.
 #3 
Old 2008-10-31, 01:35
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Wisconsin,USA
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

from what youve posted so far, your a troll, alt account, or complete dumbass
 #4 
Old 2008-10-31, 01:36
Convey Convey is offline
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Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

That shit will fuck up your brain. You prly lost like %2 of your grey matter in that experience. Stop now or you'll become addicted and empty on the inside.
You won't.
 #5 
Old 2008-10-31, 01:38
Acolyte
 
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

from what youve posted so far, you're either a troll, alt account, or complete dumbass

1.no.

1.no

3.fuck you, I'm new to this, and I'm wondering about responsible (edit)recreational(edit) drug use.
 #6 
Old 2008-10-31, 01:38
Acolyte
 
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Convey
That shit will fuck up your brain. You prly lost like %2 of your grey matter in that experience. Stop now or you'll become addicted and empty on the inside.
You won't.


thanks

/thread
 #7 
Old 2008-10-31, 01:39
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Wisconsin,USA
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

3.fuck you, I'm new to this, and I'm wondering about responsible drug use.

you realize the irony of that statement dont you?

the responsible misuse of drugs?? lol. your not using them reponsibly, your abusing them
 #8 
Old 2008-10-31, 01:40
Acolyte
 
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

haha yeah
 #9 
Old 2008-10-31, 01:50
beergoggles beergoggles is offline
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Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

If that was true I'd be completely brain-dead. Opioids are not neurotoxic and they are fairly easy on the body. The acetaminophen is the part that will damage your liver. Whoever told you this is an idiot, or they mixed up their brain and their liver.

How have you "been hearing" this, as if you've heard it in more than one place? It sounds like something some jackass officer or teacher would tell you, or some 13 year old kid who can't keep their drugs straight.
 #10 
Old 2008-10-31, 02:18
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Connecticut
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

opiods do not cause permanent brain damage.
 #11 
Old 2008-10-31, 03:05
Acolyte
 
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

Quote:
Originally Posted by beergoggles
If that was true I'd be completely brain-dead. Opioids are not neurotoxic and they are fairly easy on the body. The acetaminophen is the part that will damage your liver. Whoever told you this is an idiot, or they mixed up their brain and their liver.

How have you "been hearing" this, as if you've heard it in more than one place? It sounds like something some jackass officer or teacher would tell you, or some 13 year old kid who can't keep their drugs straight.


Heard it multiple times this week in school; it's "red ribbon week" a.k.a. DRUGS ARE EVIL AND KILL KITTENS week.
 #12 
Old 2008-10-31, 03:08
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California.
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

Heard it multiple times this week in school; it's "red ribbon week" a.k.a. DRUGS ARE EVIL AND KILL KITTENS week.

because its school you idiot.
don't believe everything mommy daddy and the principal tell you.
 #13 
Old 2008-10-31, 03:13
Moderator
 
Facedown in the shag rug.
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

Most everything you hear about drugs at school is bullshit. That goes equally for the authority figures and your dumbass drug-using peers.

QUESTION EVERYTHING. EEK!
 #14 
Old 2008-10-31, 04:10
Acolyte
 
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThetaReactor
Most everything you hear about drugs at school is bullshit. That goes equally for the authority figures and your dumbass drug-using peers.

QUESTION EVERYTHING. EEK!


because its school you idiot.
don't believe everything mommy daddy and the principal tell you.


It sounded like bs, so I questioned it via totse.
 #15 
Old 2008-10-31, 04:12
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Facedown in the shag rug.
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

New rule: Never quote jowie and me in the same topic. Yuck. :D
 #16 
Old 2008-10-31, 04:22
helterskelter helterskelter is offline
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Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

It sounded like bs, so I questioned it via totse.

They totally had you believing it
Just another example of how people/kids blindly follow authority


The Tylenol in the pills will do you more harm than the 25-30massive milligrams of hydrocodone

Hah...................... kids
 #17 
Old 2008-10-31, 05:14
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

living kills brain cells....

your using drugs, with the exception of certain drugs your not going to get much smarter using them.... Its just one of those things you have to accept if you want to get into the lifestyle....

but no, your liver is going to be hit harder than the brain in your case.... 3g of APAP is fairly safe but dont make a habit of it, a CWE will get rid of alot of the APAP and make it much less damaging to the renal system....

and lol about red ribbon week... i signed up for the "i pledge not to do drugs" just to get the free glow in the dark dogtag thing.... and because its ironic.... i think more druggy kids signed up to be drug free than anyone else....
 #18 
Old 2008-10-31, 06:32
Acolyte
 
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

They totally had you believing it
Just another example of how people/kids blindly follow authority


The Tylenol in the pills will do you more harm than the 25-30massive milligrams of hydrocodone

Hah...................... kids

I was asking about vicodin, which means the stuff IN the vicodin, which includes the Tylenol.

What harm will the Tylenol do?
 #19 
Old 2008-10-31, 06:34
HeavyMetal420 HeavyMetal420 is offline
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Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

As far as i know, opiates don't really damage anything once their in. It's getting in that does the harm. Plus, do a CWE on those fuckers. That much APAP isn't too good for you.
 #20 
Old 2008-10-31, 15:34
beergoggles beergoggles is offline
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Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

Heard it multiple times this week in school; it's "red ribbon week" a.k.a. DRUGS ARE EVIL AND KILL KITTENS week.

Well hey, lets give them credit on getting the "smoking causes cancer" thing right at least. I wouldn't suggest listening to those people in the future though. Red ribbon week? What the fuck? I haven't had an anti-drug speech since deep down in the 90's when I was a little squirt.
 #21 
Old 2008-10-31, 16:01
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Shangri-La
Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

1.no.

1.no

3.fuck you, I'm new to this, and I'm wondering about responsible (edit)recreational(edit) drug use.

Seriously, you could have answered your own question by browsing erowid for 30 seconds.
 #22 
Old 2008-10-31, 21:43
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Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GD!
I've been hearing that taking recreational dosages of vicodin, even once or twice, can cause brain damage.

Is this true?

I took 5 5/500's over the course of an hour last weekend.

I was planning on taking 6 5/500's at once this weekend, but now I'm a little freaked out.

So what, if any, physical or neurological damage can be caused by recreational dosages at the 25-30mg level?

Last weekend was my first time with any type of drug, so it's not like I have a tolerance.


melt to the ocean.
 #23 
Old 2008-10-31, 21:49
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Default Re: Potential For Brain Damage?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GD!
I've been hearing that taking recreational dosages of vicodin, even once or twice, can cause brain damage.

Is this true?

I took 5 5/500's over the course of an hour last weekend.

I was planning on taking 6 5/500's at once this weekend, but now I'm a little freaked out.

So what, if any, physical or neurological damage can be caused by recreational dosages at the 25-30mg level?

Last weekend was my first time with any type of drug, so it's not like I have a tolerance.

Are you kidding me. Goto google. Type in "opiate neurotoxcity."

And the answer is no.

Opiates/oids do slow reaction time of the brain while under the influence of them but they do not damage it. They do down regulate the mu opioid receptors in the brain when used daily longterm. After one time it wont do anything except replace your bodies natural endorphins while your under the influence of them.

thanks

/thread

Dude he was fucking with you. if you are to stupid to figure out this shit for yourself then you shouldn't be using drug anyway.

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