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| Politics: Left, Right, and Center National, state, regional, and local politics. Who's doing what to whom, and what you can do about it. How-to-get-action messages are encouraged. "How the government fucked up my life" stories are encouraged. Sharing new methods for cheating on taxes is encouraged. Sample "letters to congresscritters" are encouraged. Apathy and "I can't do anything" posts are discouraged. Left, right, centrist, or any other form of political-economic systems are all up for discussion. Be prepared to defend yourself, or at least have a good line of bullshit ready. Extensive quoting of economists and philosophers is frowned upon. We want to hear what YOU have to say, not what some constipated, impotent, dead guy dreamt up while suffering from the DT's over a hundred years ago thought. |
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#1
 2008-10-30, 07:06
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Snitz243 
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The Illusion That We Live In
The truth is out there, The Truth Is Now, The Truth Is Here.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
Be Warned After Watching This, You Will Never Look At Anything The Same Again.
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#2
 2008-10-30, 07:11
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
Zeitgeist: The gift that keeps on giving, even if you want it to stop.
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#3
 2008-10-30, 13:06
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
What's worse then a lie is the truth mixed with a healthy dose of bullshit.
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#4
 2008-10-30, 14:04
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
I liked this video because it contained very little bullshit. I even took the liberty of disproving a lot of the things he claimed and (at least from what I looked up) actually stands pretty valid. I also took the liberty of checking out some books in relation to this topic with more credible sources. However I will say, the solution to the problem he presented is too big of a stretch. The thought is just too radical for society to handle it on a World Wide scale. I could see it being a possibility in the distant future but honestly the dude should have come up with a more realistic solution. Things that can be achieved now that can be used as stepping stones towards that ultimate goal. I mean shoot, even this system took years of gradual legislation and evolution to manifest into what it is today.
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#5
 2008-10-30, 20:50
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Beka 
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
Great movies. I only wish the first one contained no religion/911 so as to keep heavily brainwashed people watching
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#6
 2008-10-30, 21:13
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
Zeitgeist: I reject your emotional pandering propaganda and substitute my own, slightly more substantiated form.
It may have good, correct backing, but its presented wrong. The style of the OP's post only proves this.
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#7
 2008-10-30, 21:44
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
It was a great movie as far as most conspiracy movies go.
My only big complaint is how the tackled the religion part of it. Technically most parts of it were right, but they were so much more set on attacking Christianity then they did on actually educating people. Jordan Maxwell, whos work this section was originally based on, did a far better job.
I can't remember anything about the 9/11 section except that it wasn't put together very well.
The Federal Reserve part of the movie was actually really well made.
The way they tried to link the entire thing together was terrible.
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#8
 2008-10-30, 21:49
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I suspect the person who made this, did that on purpose, as to attract peoples attention. I mean do you think a lot of people would watch this if it only had some monotonous toned 70 year old man discussing the flaws of the financial situation. This is America. We thrive on glamour. Anyway if you want something that is more down to Earth and realistic I suggest you check out the book John Perkins: Confessions of an Economic Hitman. Also go to www.campaignforliberty.com and go to the educational section. They may not talk about this, for obvious reasons, but they do explain a lot about basic economics and how our Monetary System Works. Also, though I haven't read it, I suspect the book "What Happened?" would help explain zeitgeist without all that super dramatic stuff.
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#9
 2008-10-31, 00:24
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
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Originally Posted by DarkMage35
Zeitgeist: I reject your emotional pandering propaganda and substitute my own, slightly more substantiated form.
It may have good, correct backing, but its presented wrong. The style of the OP's post only proves this.
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^This.
It's hard to take something seriously when it's surrounded by the "I know the truth because I read it on the internet, anyone who disagrees with me is a blind sheep" attitude.
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#10
 2008-10-31, 02:45
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
Also, I feel obliged to point out that OP is a stupid fucktard spammer n00b.
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#11
 2008-10-31, 03:11
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
Welcome to 2007. I feel like I just went through a time portal.
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#12
 2008-11-01, 00:11
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
Capitlizing Every Word In A Sentence Makes You Look Really Stupid.
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#13
 2008-11-01, 00:12
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
If you believe that fucking shit, you need to die.
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#14
 2008-11-01, 15:47
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
the truth is out there, the truth is now, the truth is here.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
be warned after watching this, you will never look at anything the same again.
bullshit!
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#15
 2008-11-02, 21:02
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Originally Posted by Azure
If you believe that fucking shit, you need to die.
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#16
 2008-11-02, 23:18
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Originally Posted by Snitz243
The truth is out there, The Truth Is Now, The Truth Is Here.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
Be Warned After Watching This, You Will Never Look At Anything The Same Again.
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OMG!!! Thanks for this!!! Its really opened my eyes. I'm going to shit my pants, go outside, and tell EEEVVVVEEEERRRRYYYYYone about this movie. The people need to know!!!!
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#17
 2008-11-03, 18:43
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
fucking old.
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#18
 2008-11-03, 20:09
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
not old to me, this is zeitgeist 2 we're talking about isn't it?
just another point to add, at 49 mins where it has a quote from uk foreign sec robin cook. saying al quaeda is invented by the CIA.
the movie neglected to mention the late foreign secretary misteriously died of a heart attack while walking in the hills of scotland
also on the section of presidents that were assassinated by the economic hitmen
it forgot to mention the late, great, Lin Biao. chairman Mao's personally appointed successor who died when his plane exploded on a flight to russia. soon after the "gang of four" took over the chinese CP and then deng xiao ping who liberallised chinas economy.
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#19
 2008-11-03, 20:23
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
I like both movies.
I dont believe everything I read or watch, and just about everything I have checked up on these movies, checks out pretty well.
I could not find information on Horus that jives with their description, and 911 is this generations JFK, will never be fully solved to satisfaction, but the Fed business....
...is right the fuck on. 1% control 80% of the wealth by design, not accident. The proto conspiracy is "Old wealth and power seek to preven new sources of wealth and power from coming into being". It is pretty simple, pretty obvious, and not really even in the realm of conspiracy, more like common sense.
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#20
 2008-11-03, 23:18
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
I dont believe everything I read or watch.
But you believe a video you watched on the interwebz?
and believe the info you read on cult websites about this movie?
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#21
 2008-11-06, 17:51
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Beka 
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
But you believe a video you watched on the interwebz?
and believe the info you read on cult websites about this movie?
You are an idiot
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#22
 2008-11-08, 02:02
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i have heard poeple tell me about this movie and most of what they say is shit ive already read about or realized on my own or some bullshit. Why should I or anyone believe whats on this video? I agree with the poster who said the whole " I know the truth because I read it on the internet, anyone who disagrees with me is a blind sheep" is retarded. Whats the difference between bullshit fed to us by the talking heads and bullshit fed to us on the internet?
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#23
 2008-11-10, 14:40
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Beka 
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Originally Posted by high school janitor
i have heard poeple tell me about this movie and most of what they say is shit ive already read about or realized on my own or some bullshit. Why should I or anyone believe whats on this video? I agree with the poster who said the whole " I know the truth because I read it on the internet, anyone who disagrees with me is a blind sheep" is retarded. Whats the difference between bullshit fed to us by the talking heads and bullshit fed to us on the internet?
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Soo what do you believe for example about the Vietnam war. What do you believe were the motivations for US for invading, and which were, according to your opinion the main causes of the defeat?
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#24
 2008-11-11, 03:41
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JustAnotherAsshole 
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
Oh, for fucks sake.
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#25
 2008-11-12, 05:06
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Re: The Illusion That We Live In
I see your zeitgeist, and raise you a maddox.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07
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