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 #1 
Old 2008-10-30, 01:40
Acolyte
 
Default highschool random drug testing?

I was talking about x with two of my friends in class, lets call them A and B.

A was busted at a football game two weeks ago for smoking pot, and were suspended. The school drug tested him and he tested positive for four or five different things as well.

B deals, but hasn't ever been caught.


Anyways, a teacher heard about half a minute of our conversation before the bell rang, and had this really freaked out look on her face whilst staring at us as we left. I know, dumbshit move on our part, but whatever.

That was tues. Today (wednesday), she didn't say anything to us about it, and we didn't get called into the office or anything, BUT we were walking in P.E. and an administrater (spelling?) heard about 20 seconds of our conversation about whether this acid B and I got was legit or not, and ironically about how to pass drug tests.

Anyways, she fast walks away while mumbling into her walkie talkie.

About two minutes later, a cop comes and stares at me and B (at that point we were sitting on the football field with the rest of my class), standing about 15 yards away from us, for about half a minute, and then leaves.

My question is this; what are the chances that the school will drug test me, A and B?

I'm in a public school in California.

I want to know because I'm planning on consuming some pot and lsd over the weekend, as well as some opiates. I also may have some opiates still in my system until monday.

What are the chances that I will be drug tested?
 #2 
Old 2008-10-30, 01:44
trippydeath trippydeath is offline
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Default Re: highschool random drug testing?

Don't get busted doing anything at school and that can't piss test.

Refuse to do that shit if they try it, until you can talk to a parent or someone who knows the law better.
 #3 
Old 2008-10-30, 01:47
Street_Pharmacist420 Street_Pharmacist420 is offline
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Default Re: highschool random drug testing?

In the United States, it is illegal to randomly drug test students unless you are part of an after-school activity or a sports team. They US supreme court has ruled on this matter, look up the court case, doesnt come to mind right now. And no, they cant just drug test you because some teacher heard you and your freinds talking about acid.
 #4 
Old 2008-10-30, 01:47
Acolyte
 
Default Re: highschool random drug testing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by trippydeath
Don't get busted doing anything at school and that can't piss test.

Refuse to do that shit if they try it, until you can talk to a parent or someone who knows the law better.


what do you meant by "that can't piss test"? Confused
 #5 
Old 2008-10-30, 01:50
Acolyte
 
Default Re: highschool random drug testing?

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Originally Posted by Street_Pharmacist420
In the United States, it is illegal to randomly drug test students unless you are part of an after-school activity or a sports team. They US supreme court has ruled on this matter, look up the court case, doesnt come to mind right now. And no, they cant just drug test you because some teacher heard you and your freinds talking about acid.


Awesome! I signed up for a few clubs, but I haven't gone to a single meeting and as far as I know they're at lunch anyways, so I'm good .

Does anyone have a link to this case?
 #6 
Old 2008-10-30, 01:51
Chupacabre Chupacabre is offline
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what do you meant by "that can't piss test"? Confused

thanks though!

I think he meant they. If they don't have a probable cause to test you, just say you want to talk to your lawyer.
 #7 
Old 2008-10-30, 02:02
Acolyte
 
Default Re: highschool random drug testing?

I think he meant they. If they don't have a probable cause to test you, just say you want to talk to your lawyer.

good idea.

Everyone in my pe class knows that A and B do drugs, and if they had people in the pe class saying that they hear A and B talking about being high (if students were called into the office) , and the fact that B was high in pe last week and everyone but the teacher knew it (which people may also say), AND I hang out with them (, would that be a probable cause to test me?
 #8 
Old 2008-10-30, 02:05
Zaffino Zaffino is offline
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I don't know the rules of your school , but my school claimed that if they thought you were under the influence of drugs they could admit a drug test. Now understand that you have all the freedom in the world to get your ass up and walk the fuck out. Also , try not to broadcast your drug distribution / intake to administrators.

I know it is illegal , but im sure with the society today they can and will find way around it. Getting busted on school grounds where i live warrants at least 6 months of probation including 3 of rehab , so consider your friend lucky.
 #9 
Old 2008-10-30, 02:10
Acolyte
 
Default Re: highschool random drug testing?

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Originally Posted by Street_Pharmacist420
In the United States, it is illegal to randomly drug test students unless you are part of an after-school activity or a sports team. They US supreme court has ruled on this matter, look up the court case, doesnt come to mind right now. And no, they cant just drug test you because some teacher heard you and your freinds talking about acid.


Can the school access your private myspace or facebook (I message friends about drugs; they're private--basically emails).
 #10 
Old 2008-10-30, 02:12
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Moral of the story. Worry about school at school. Worry about drugs when not at school. Use your brain that is what it is for.

In the United States, it is illegal to randomly drug test students unless you are part of an after-school activity or a sports team. They US supreme court has ruled on this matter, look up the court case, doesnt come to mind right now. And no, they cant just drug test you because some teacher heard you and your freinds talking about acid.
Cite your source. I want to see a federal law.
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Old 2008-10-30, 02:12
Zaffino Zaffino is offline
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No , your school has no reason or warrant to access that information. That is strictly private and they are unable to invade your personal life like that.
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Old 2008-10-30, 02:16
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Default Re: highschool random drug testing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Street_Pharmacist420
In the United States, it is illegal to randomly drug test students unless you are part of an after-school activity or a sports team. They US supreme court has ruled on this matter, look up the court case, doesnt come to mind right now. And no, they cant just drug test you because some teacher heard you and your freinds talking about acid.


new jersey has totally shit all over that precedent....
 #13 
Old 2008-10-30, 02:19
Acolyte
 
Default Re: highschool random drug testing?

So, would suspicion of using drugs warrant looking/acting under the influence at school, or hearing me talking about drugs with known "offenders"?

No I would never get or be high at school.
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Old 2008-10-30, 02:25
Zaffino Zaffino is offline
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Originally Posted by GD!
So, would suspicion of using drugs warrant looking/acting under the influence at school, or hearing me talking about drugs with known "offenders"?

No I would never get or be high at school.


Either way you look at it , they have no right to do that to you. If you are not on probation or acting completely out of the ordinary they cannot do a thing except threaten you with false information.
 #15 
Old 2008-10-30, 02:26
CaSp3R88 CaSp3R88 is offline
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This be the sequal to High School Musical 3....




CaspeR
 #16 
Old 2008-10-30, 02:27
Acolyte
 
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lol your teachers have walkies talkies lol wow that sucks so glad I don't live there
 #17 
Old 2008-10-30, 02:31
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in my state they need your parents permission if you refuse, if your under 16 or 18 I forget. They cant make you take one, so dont. Theyll prob try and intimidate you into doing one and scaring you, but they cannot do SHIT.
 #18 
Old 2008-10-30, 02:34
Ene Ene is offline
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yo i live in California and I go to a probation school and they cant drug test you unless your parents says they can.
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Old 2008-10-30, 02:39
Acolyte
 
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Originally Posted by Ene
yo i live in California and I go to a probation school and they cant drug test you unless your parents says they can.


Well shit my sister heard about me hanging out with A and B and told my parents who freaked out so I made up this story about how "everyone thinks I do drugs and I don't know why and I hate it!" so if the school called they tell them go ahead cause as far as they know it would end the "rumors". :(
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Old 2008-10-30, 02:52
beergoggles beergoggles is offline
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Default Re: highschool random drug testing?

Big mouths lead to bigger problems. From now on I'd suggest using code or keeping the trap shut at school.

When I was in high-school I took Oxy/Vics/heroin before classes everyday and never got suspected or questioned because.... *drumroll* I didn't talk about it loudly to friends. Hell, I made it through my entire high-school career fucked up without a problem.

I wouldn't worry about the drug testing. Just from now on don't talk about it, and you'll have nothing to worry about.
 #21 
Old 2008-10-30, 02:52
dingdongduy dingdongduy is offline
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In California public high schools they can only drug test you if they bring in the dog and the dog smells it on you or your backpack. Also, if you are in an after school sport, you have to sign a permission to have to the possibility of being randomly tested. If you do not consent you are suspended from the sport for 1 year. IF you really don't want to get tested you can refuse but suffer the consequences, either way they will tell your parents and they will make you do it anyways (well mine would).
 #22 
Old 2008-10-30, 03:32
Acolyte
 
Default Re: highschool random drug testing?

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Originally Posted by beergoggles
Big mouths lead to bigger problems. From now on I'd suggest using code or keeping the trap shut at school.

When I was in high-school I took Oxy/Vics/heroin before classes everyday and never got suspected or questioned because.... *drumroll* I didn't talk about it loudly to friends. Hell, I made it through my entire high-school career fucked up without a problem.

I wouldn't worry about the drug testing. Just from now on don't talk about it, and you'll have nothing to worry about.


thanks, I'll lay low for awhile
 #23 
Old 2008-10-30, 05:34
Street_Pharmacist420 Street_Pharmacist420 is offline
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Default Re: highschool random drug testing?

Cite your source. I want to see a federal law.

Ask and you shall receive, although you dont have to be a dick about it..


Vernonia School District v. Acton - Ruled in favor of random drug testing on athletes

Board of Education v. Earls- Used Veronia as a precedent to allow random drug testing among all students involved in extra-curricular activies.
 #24 
Old 2008-10-30, 05:39
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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Ask and you shall receive, although you dont have to be a dick about it..


Vernonia School District v. Acton - Ruled in favor of random drug testing on athletes

Board of Education v. Earls- Used Veronia as a precedent to allow random drug testing among all students involved in extra-curricular activies.

Above my qoute f you was not directed towards you.

i just wanted to see the law wasnt trying to be a dick. I guess I am just in a bad mood tonight, sorry.
 #25 
Old 2008-10-30, 07:32
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This is from personal experience:

As a freshman in highschool I took oxycontin and smoked weed at lunch time. I passde out in 6th period and a security guard took me to the principle's office. I had a history for looking stoned in 6th period and my principle was "tired of it." He told me to take this saliva drug test and I told him no I'm not taking any of his drug tests. He said he would call the cops and I told him to go ahead. A cop actually came down and told me "I'm going to drug test you." I said "no, you are not going to drug test me." He said ok and then he left. I just left after the bell rang.

I was talking about x with two of my friends in class, lets call them A and B.

A was busted at a football game two weeks ago for smoking pot, and were suspended. The school drug tested him and he tested positive for four or five different things as well.

B deals, but hasn't ever been caught.


Anyways, a teacher heard about half a minute of our conversation before the bell rang, and had this really freaked out look on her face whilst staring at us as we left. I know, dumbshit move on our part, but whatever.

That was tues. Today (wednesday), she didn't say anything to us about it, and we didn't get called into the office or anything, BUT we were walking in P.E. and an administrater (spelling?) heard about 20 seconds of our conversation about whether this acid B and I got was legit or not, and ironically about how to pass drug tests.

Anyways, she fast walks away while mumbling into her walkie talkie.

About two minutes later, a cop comes and stares at me and B (at that point we were sitting on the football field with the rest of my class), standing about 15 yards away from us, for about half a minute, and then leaves.

My question is this; what are the chances that the school will drug test me, A and B?

I'm in a public school in California.

I want to know because I'm planning on consuming some pot and lsd over the weekend, as well as some opiates. I also may have some opiates still in my system until monday.

What are the chances that I will be drug tested?



edit- I love when people post shit that is really irrelevant to the OP:

The law saying that athletes can be drug tested only applies to ATHLETES! I'm assuming the OP is a piece of shit who doesn't have any extracurrecular activities. This doesn't affect him. And even then, it is not like an athlete actually has to take the test. They will just be removed from the sport for refusing the test.
 #26 
Old 2008-10-30, 07:45
Champ69 Champ69 is offline
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I've been very lucky with drugs at school once i showed up really drunk all my friends knew I was but the teachers didn't do anything about it even though it was obvious. once i was stoned and my teacher said i'd need to take a drug test and I said no and shes like go see the principle and he said that I had to piss into this container and im like no and walked out on him and he couldn't do anything about it ;D
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Old 2008-10-30, 09:06
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Default Re: highschool random drug testing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GD!
I was talking about x with two of my friends in class, lets call them A and B.

A was busted at a football game two weeks ago for smoking pot, and were suspended. The school drug tested him and he tested positive for four or five different things as well.

B deals, but hasn't ever been caught.


Anyways, a teacher heard about half a minute of our conversation before the bell rang, and had this really freaked out look on her face whilst staring at us as we left. I know, dumbshit move on our part, but whatever.

That was tues. Today (wednesday), she didn't say anything to us about it, and we didn't get called into the office or anything, BUT we were walking in P.E. and an administrater (spelling?) heard about 20 seconds of our conversation about whether this acid B and I got was legit or not, and ironically about how to pass drug tests.

Anyways, she fast walks away while mumbling into her walkie talkie.

About two minutes later, a cop comes and stares at me and B (at that point we were sitting on the football field with the rest of my class), standing about 15 yards away from us, for about half a minute, and then leaves.

My question is this; what are the chances that the school will drug test me, A and B?

I'm in a public school in California.

I want to know because I'm planning on consuming some pot and lsd over the weekend, as well as some opiates. I also may have some opiates still in my system until monday.

What are the chances that I will be drug tested?


you're a fucking retard
 #28 
Old 2008-10-30, 10:48
Mr Smith Mr Smith is offline
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Default Re: highschool random drug testing?

^^ did i get a sweet deal on this bud guys?
 #29 
Old 2008-10-30, 10:52
Unregistered Unregistered is offline
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Refuse the test. Not like they can force you to piss in a cup. Whether or not it's legal, I'm not really sure. But it's not illegal to refuse one, and if they did somehow manage to force you to undertake testing--well I'm certain that'd be grounds for complaint/litigation, people have sued over way more trivial matters and won, anyway.
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Old 2008-10-30, 22:09
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what do you meant by "that can't piss test"? Confused

he means drugs in the nida 5

And your school can do whatever it wants. Precedents don't mean anything. I know if you refused to take a piss test at my school they would prolly expel you.
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Old 2008-10-30, 22:25
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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you're a fucking retard

Dude, you cant say shit. you smke catnip and ground leaves.
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Old 2008-11-07, 07:40
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trolled sucka.
 #33 
Old 2008-11-07, 07:55
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mah compound
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I think this calls for a bit of truth in your school, starting with some very simple flyers giving some basic information about LSDs actual safety, benefits, and how it has been scape goated by authoritarians and weak minded people. Do your research, make it short, to the point, but effective, print several thousand at kinkos, and then simply post those bitches up in the area RIGHT outside of the school, every telephone pole you can find.


Big lettering, simple but easily readable color scheme, and mainly, keep it succinct and to the point. Provide a small list legitimate inarguable references at the bottom.


This will cause every single one of those assholes to drop a fat load in their pants upon sight.


As for your particular dilemma, fuck them, they can't do shit, stone wall those assholes, and fucking retaliate via the above method.


The only way to fight intellectual bullies and misinformation is with plain fucking truth and the balls to scream it from the roof tops.
 #34 
Old 2008-11-07, 12:27
helterskelter helterskelter is offline
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just drop out problem solved
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Old 2008-11-07, 17:50
ilovechronic ilovechronic is offline
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trolled sucka.

Don't try and cover your ass with the "troll" excuse. you got ripped off and you FAIL.
 #36 
Old 2008-11-08, 02:01
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Originally Posted by Mr Smith
^^ did i get a sweet deal on this bud guys?


Legendary.
 #37 
Old 2008-11-08, 03:22
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Facedown in the shag rug.
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I get it. You're a noob. You've still been here long enough to know better. Stop being an idiot.
 
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