4mg at 9:00 and 1mg at 1:00 AM

But here's the deal. Me and my girl were planning on riding into the city to cop a couple bags this afternoon.

It will probably be in the 3:00 to 5:00 kind of range when we do this.

Will I get off, or will this be cutting it too close?

You probably won't feel it. I've waited 24 hours, then sniffed three bags and I didn't catch a nod or get any higher. Typically, three is enough for me to get a good nod.

i'd wait a day if i were you, at least...

Ok, thanks. I'll probably just get two and save 'em for a party on friday.

What did you think about it squeege? Could it be a usful tool for you to quit?

I think it is very useful when used as intended.

I've noticed that even taking it for one day will ease or even eliminate physical withdrawls for the next day. Like I said, I took ~5mg last night. I have had nothing today and have had no physical symptoms to speak of. They will come back tomorrow, but still not as bad. The only problem is the mental draw. I actually just ended up getting 20mg of methadone (its about all i could find)....and its killing me just watching it sit there on the dresser :(

Yeah i know what your saying. That is why they can give you a larger dose for cravings. i started my induction today. The doc prescribed me #2 8mgs for the next 3 days to stablize on and I started with 1mg. My pupils went from dilated back to pinned from just 1mg and I feel much better.

Since the half life is so long i would wait it out AS LONG AS YOU CAN because you wont get as good of effects if you only wait 24 hours.

The reason you are still not feel w/d as you probably know is the super long half life which can last from 24-72 hours.

I actually just ended up getting 20mg of methadone (its about all i could find)....and its killing me just watching it sit there on the dresser :(

the methadone would work sooner than the dope. but dude, when you go to use bupe again after the done push 36 hours...

doing methadone prior to 48-72 hours of being off of subs will MAKE U GO INTO W/Ds hardcore! DONT DO IT! All the DRs even say STAY OFF OF THE METHADONE IT WILL NOT MIX!...just giving u a heads up dude

I'm so fucking grateful I never got myself tied up in opes.

Best of luck to you, man.

um, you can use methadone with buprenorphine in your system. But if you use buprenorphine with methadone in your system and you are dependant on opiates it will cause precipitated withdrawal.

I used my last dose of Suboxone on October 30th, at 6:00pm.

It is now November 2nd 7:00pm. Is it a waste to take the vikes I have right now? Or did I wait long enough?

I used my last dose of Suboxone on October 30th, at 6:00pm.

It is now November 2nd 7:00pm. Is it a waste to take the vikes I have right now? Or did I wait long enough?That long enough.

Thank you my friend...this makes me...oh...oh so happy.

They are just vikes man god


You acting like the man gave you an oc 80

You do not know my situation, nor how many I have at that.

Think before you speak.

Yeah no one knows your situation huh only one in the world trying to get high after a dose of suboxone

I could eat 10 norcos and it would still suck, and i barely have a tolerance so it dont matter how many you have

So take your own advise and think before you speak

Dude stfu.
i am tired of hearing this "hydrocodone is weak shit." hydro is only 1.5x weaker than oxy. Hydro is about equivlant mg for mg to morphine. Hydrocodone is a potent analgesic but is just not formulated like "teh OxYcoTTOns," so everyone thinks it is weak.

Dude i know its weak IMO anyways

One day i was gona break the habit of doing oxy everyday so i got 10 norcos 10/325 or 10 650s i cant remember but i ate all them fuckers and the high was so mild i still went out and got an oxy because i was borderline sober

Well I dont' know what your problem is then, hydrocodone isa very potent analgesic. How are you going to break a oxy habit with hydro, they all do the same thing. the amount of apap is irrelavent. You do realize there are other amounts of hydo besides 10mg in norco.

You still do not know my situation.

Your snappy, hoping to be disparaging comment did not work, or answer my question.

Well I dont' know what your problem is then, hydrocodone isa very potent analgesic. How are you going to break a oxy habit with hydro, they all do the same thing. the amount of apap is irrelavent. You do realize there are other amounts of hydo besides 10mg in norco.

No kidding huh there is different milligram strengths hydrocodone 1st time hearing this

For real though i know my shit and besides knowing and trusting the source they are pill ided every time regardless, better to take 3 seconds to look up the numbers on the pill then paying 3 dollars a piece for 5/500s they were positively 10mg strength i wont even take anything lower than that

And to the dude above me i didn't mean to offend you i just though you were a little to happy to hear you could take some vikes, i would stick with the suboxone that will most likely get you higher than some hydrocodone

um, you can use methadone with buprenorphine in your system. But if you use buprenorphine with methadone in your system and you are dependant on opiates it will cause precipitated withdrawal.

No not really it dont matter if your dependent or not, its in the drug to make it block and methadone/subs no matter what will make you go into WD type symptoms whether you are a dependent user or not...its the brain chemistry of the drugs not about the person using it...might not be to the level of WD's us ope dependents know but it will still make you sick as fuck if you dont wait long enough

And to the dude above me i didn't mean to offend you i just though you were a little to happy to hear you could take some vikes, i would stick with the suboxone that will most likely get you higher than some hydrocodone

No just no dude. hydrocodone is a FULL opioid agonist. Buprenorphine is a partial opioid agonist. A full agonist is always going to get you higher than a partial agonist considering partial agonist do no get most people high.

No not really it dont matter if your dependent or not, its in the drug to make it block and methadone/subs no matter what will make you go into WD type symptoms whether you are a dependent user or not...its the brain chemistry of the drugs not about the person using it...might not be to the level of WD's us ope dependents know but it will still make you sick as fuck if you dont wait long enough

No.It wont. I am telling you if a non dependant users take buprenorphine when they still have a full agonist attaached to their receptors nothing will happen. They will not experience any withdrawal symptoms AT ALL because they do not have a dependency at all. The bupe just takes its place. You have to have a depndeny to get withdrawal.Because when the body is dependant on an opioid or opiate it goes into withdrawal when it doesn't have it. When it is not dependant the body does not go through withdrawal because there is no depenndancy. the body does not NEED it. "its the brain chemistry of the drugs," that statement doesn't even make sense. you are apparently ignorant on the subject of buprenorphine.

Anyway that was not even the point of my statment. The point was that you can use all the methadone you want with buprenorphine in your system the bupe is just going to block the effects But if you take bupe with methadone attached to the receptor sites in the brain AND YOU HAVE A DEPENDENCY it will cause precipitated withdrawal.