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Old 2008-10-27, 23:13
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Looking to make my senses kinda trippy but still be in control (as in not running around thinking I'm a toaster, or laughing uncontrollably, ect.).

Feel free to move, flame or lock if you feel the need, but I'm new to drugs and know almost NOTHING; I just broke my substance virginity yesterday with some painkillers.

I'm not interested in drugs with side affects that will affect my memory or thinking skills for more than a few days, just something to try once on a weekend or a week long holiday that won't lower my gpa.

???
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Old 2008-10-27, 23:26
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Ketamine is a good disassociative. If you take it though, make sure you don't take too much or you'll K-hole. Some people enjoy this though. Not me personally. Also, you can still eat if you take it and aside from feeling a bit slow there's not much of a come-down. It's not expensive at all as well, if you're looking for something cheap.
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Old 2008-10-27, 23:29
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Ketamine is a gooder, and the K-hole is the best part...except when you Puke. I would advise against DXM as personally I get confused panicked and and up freaking the hell out and puking. It does seem to be a trend to puke with dissasociatives..
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Old 2008-10-27, 23:33
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a moderate dose of dxm? its easy enough to buy or steal.
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Old 2008-10-27, 23:43
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Ketamine.

Or to those who don't like it; Regretamine.
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Old 2008-10-27, 23:58
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Default Re: Good Dissasociatives?

Ketamine is awesome... If you can't find that, DXM... DXM was cool like the first 2-3 times, then it lost its magic and made me feel like shit every time I tried to take it.

But, if you're new to drugs, why do you want to immediatly jump into dissasociatives? I think a low dose of one of the classic psychedelics would better suit your needs, a half 8th of mushrooms or a half tab of acid might be more up you're alley if you just wanna feel a little 'tripped out' for the day... but thats just my 2 cents.
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Old 2008-10-28, 00:10
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Ketamine is awesome... If you can't find that, DXM... DXM was cool like the first 2-3 times, then it lost its magic and made me feel like shit every time I tried to take it.

But, if you're new to drugs, why do you want to immediatly jump into dissasociatives? I think a low dose of one of the classic psychedelics would better suit your needs, a half 8th of mushrooms or a half tab of acid might be more up you're alley if you just wanna feel a little 'tripped out' for the day... but thats just my 2 cents.
I know, different affects for different people, but what generally are the affects of half a tab? What do you mean by 'tripped out'?
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Old 2008-10-28, 00:18
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nitrous? cheap and easy to get....
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Old 2008-10-28, 00:20
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I know a site to get 4 grams of DXM powder for about 20 euros or something.

I probably will after christmas when I have money, and just hit each plateau once, then sell the rest.
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Old 2008-10-28, 00:22
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DXM is another one, if you don't have access to ket. Dextroverse has some good DXM info.
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Old 2008-10-28, 00:24
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nitrous for your first time definitely.
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Old 2008-10-28, 00:29
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Special K for the win.
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Old 2008-10-28, 00:37
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Looking to make my senses kinda trippy but still be in control (as in not running around thinking I'm a toaster, or laughing uncontrollably, ect.).

Feel free to move, flame or lock if you feel the need, but I'm new to drugs and know almost NOTHING; I just broke my substance virginity yesterday with some painkillers.

I'm not interested in drugs with side affects that will affect my memory or thinking skills for more than a few days, just something to try once on a weekend or a week long holiday that won't lower my gpa.

???
Toasters can't run..

Seriously though dude how old are you? Not tryin to be a dick, but you sound kinda young. Maybe you shouldnt be doing drugs yet.
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Old 2008-10-28, 00:52
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Maybe you shouldnt be doing drugs yet.
Too late for that.

EDIT: I'm in high school.
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Old 2008-10-28, 00:53
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Toasters can't run..
You know what I meant.
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Old 2008-10-28, 01:02
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Special K for the win.
This

I don't even understand why this is a question. There really aren't many dissociatives.... and even fewer are the ones that are good/don't suck (ketamine, nitrous). Granted I have no experience with PCP, but I never plan to, either.

DXM is repulsive trash, IMO. Not bad when I was 14 and had minimal drug experience outside of weed. Now, I don't think I'd do it even if I was seriously hurting to get fucked up on something, and had no other options.
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Old 2008-10-28, 01:27
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DMT.

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Old 2008-10-28, 01:50
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PCP without a doubt.

It puts ketamine to shame


But since your a n00b, go to your local grocery store and buy a bottle of Redi-Whip and starting inhaling. If you think that you can handle either PCP or ketamine after 'breaking through' yesterday with some shitty painkillers then you are seriously, seriously mistaken.
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Old 2008-10-28, 02:48
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I know, different affects for different people, but what generally are the affects of half a tab? What do you mean by 'tripped out'?
A light dose a psychedelic (most of them) will just put you in a dreamy state of mind, colors start to look brighter, you get all kinds of weird abstract thoughts, maybe some minor visual disortions, and just a general euphoria. But the whole time you remain totally incontrol. A half a tab (of good acid) usually puts me there, but anymore and you start to actually trip, not just get the 'tripped out feeling' if that makes sense.
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Old 2008-10-28, 02:57
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A light dose a psychedelic (most of them) will just put you in a dreamy state of mind, colors start to look brighter, you get all kinds of weird abstract thoughts, maybe some minor visual disortions, and just a general euphoria. But the whole time you remain totally incontrol. A half a tab (of good acid) usually puts me there, but anymore and you start to actually trip, not just get the 'tripped out feeling' if that makes sense.
I'll try a third; won't I be more sensitive to acid's affects as I have never taken it before?
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Old 2008-10-28, 02:58
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PCP without a doubt.

It puts ketamine to shame


But since your a n00b, go to your local grocery store and buy a bottle of Redi-Whip and starting inhaling. If you think that you can handle either PCP or ketamine after 'breaking through' yesterday with some shitty painkillers then you are seriously, seriously mistaken.
30 or 35 (forget) mg of vicodin. Mediocre, but not shitty imo.
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Old 2008-10-28, 04:21
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You do know that you will sometimes see SO MUCH shit on Dissasociatives if you take them on a psychedelic level and yet you will appear retarded to the outside world. The unconscious mind is extremly powerful, it contains all the unfilterd, raw, nonsensical, thoughts the brain has everyday. Think about that for one second, you cant even imagine the vast images of your own regular maddness. ketamine and pcp can bring these kind of things out, maybe even DXM if you take a high enough dose.
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Old 2008-10-28, 08:24
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I personally like DXM kinda if i get the right kind of capsules.im a big fan of dissasociatives, i like the whole dreamy thing.ketamine sounds tight as fuck im gonna try some hopefully next weekend.
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Old 2008-10-28, 14:44
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I'll try a third; won't I be more sensitive to acid's affects as I have never taken it before?
With acid, tolerance goes down to zero after, from what I understand, one to two weeks. If you take any while your tolerance is up, its effect is greatly reduced, so unless you took acid less than a week ago, you'll be on the same level as someone who has never taken it.

Can't say it's the same with mushrooms though. I don't really know about those too much.
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Old 2008-10-28, 16:19
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i have a hypersensitivity to dxm i take around 300mg and no joke my eyes are saucers for 4 days(i dont start coming down till +72:00) on the fifth day i dont feel it so much but i still have a slight body high. i havent tryd any other disacociates yet but im going to start off SOOO fucking small. by the way the shortest dxm trip i can get is 36 hours +10:00 being the come down start time. thats with around 80 mgs. i guess though im just saying this so your cautious. although im the only person i know like this. but be careful
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Old 2008-10-28, 19:30
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i have a hypersensitivity to dxm i take around 300mg and no joke my eyes are saucers for 4 days(i dont start coming down till +72:00) on the fifth day i dont feel it so much but i still have a slight body high. i havent tryd any other disacociates yet but im going to start off SOOO fucking small. by the way the shortest dxm trip i can get is 36 hours +10:00 being the come down start time. thats with around 80 mgs. i guess though im just saying this so your cautious. although im the only person i know like this. but be careful
Are you taking dxm hbr or dxm polistyrex? Fuck that shit. Just like everyone else will say, its fun when you haven't done any other drugs. I know quite a few people who somehow became addicted to that shit and do it all the time. Last time I did it, probably 4 years ago, it felt like my brain was melting.
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Old 2008-10-29, 01:04
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Well, I just got 2 hits of acid from one of my friends. They're blotters, and are each about the size of a tic tac, but rectangular. Cost me $20 ( I know, huge rip off) but whatever. How much should I take in order to have everything be really trippy but still be in control? Half a blotter?

edit: taking it on halloween, and I need to be back to reality by about 10 am saturday. what time should I take it?
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Old 2008-10-29, 01:10
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Well, I just got 2 hits of acid from one of my friends. They're blotters, and are each about the size of a tic tac, but rectangular. Cost me $20 ( I know, huge rip off) but whatever. How much should I take in order to have everything be really trippy but still be in control? Half a blotter?

edit: taking it on halloween, and I need to be back to reality by about 10 am saturday. what time should I take it?
take it at the latest 8 pm friday?
your not gonna sleep if your doing acid for the first time
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Old 2008-10-29, 01:29
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take it at the latest 8 pm friday?
your not gonna sleep if your doing acid for the first time
haha
it doesnt matter if its your first time or your 100000th time taking LSD, either way, as long as your 5ht2a receptors are being partially agonized, you aren't going to sleep for a while, its pretty impossible unless you take depressants. in that case, it still doesnt matter if its your first or 1000000th time, either. its not like LSD "noobs" have a harder time sleeping.
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Old 2008-10-29, 01:46
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dxm is my favorite..
its always so much fun
go buy a bottle of Robitussin DM and drink it
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it doesnt matter if its your first time or your 100000th time taking LSD, either way, as long as your 5ht2a receptors are being partially agonized, you aren't going to sleep for a while, its pretty impossible unless you take depressants. in that case, it still doesnt matter if its your first or 1000000th time, either. its not like LSD "noobs" have a harder time sleeping.

Do you mean that if I take it friday night, I won't sleep saturday/sunday night?


oh, and tick tack size is way too big, they're a little bigger than the ones in the lower left corner here:http://buyblotterart.com/images/9-in-1.jpg

(if held up to the screen)

I know light decomposes it, but two minutes out on my desk isn't gonna do anything.
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^ no not necessarily. if you dose in the morning or a time when you can trip and it wont throw off your sleep cycles, you could fall asleep within a couple hours after the trip is over. for some 10 hours after dosing to maybe 15 hours

but if you trip at night it could easily throw off your sleep cycles for a few days and you might stay up for 24 hours because you arent used to sleeping during the day
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Old 2008-10-29, 02:23
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^ no not necessarily. if you dose in the morning or a time when you can trip and it wont throw off your sleep cycles, you could fall asleep within a couple hours after the trip is over. for some 10 hours after dosing to maybe 15 hours

but if you trip at night it could easily throw off your sleep cycles for a few days and you might stay up for 24 hours because you arent used to sleeping during the day


Well I'm in high school so I live with my parents; I have to trip at night when they won't come into my room. I'm thinking around 8:00 pm I'll say I'm going to bed and then dose. Couldn't I just come out of the trip around 8 or 9 the next morning and just stay up all day? Would that be hard?
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Well I'm in high school so I live with my parents; I have to trip at night when they won't come into my room. I'm thinking around 8:00 pm I'll say I'm going to bed and then dose. Couldn't I just come out of the trip around 8 or 9 the next morning and just stay up all day? Would that be hard?

yeah that'll work if you think you can handle your parents. or just stay out all night till like 11 or whenever you need to be home then just go straight to bed say youre real tired, plus by that time you wont be tripping hard. what some people do is dose during their last period at like 2:30 so they leave school and start tripping.

that way, theyd be done tripping around 10:00 and be able to fall asleep by at least 3:00, and if you have access to benzos/soma/alcohol, itll be easier to fall asleep.

you could do what you said, but it isnt easy to go a long time without sleep for some people. know yourself. drink coffee/take adderall/ritalin/dexedrine/coke/meth if need be/
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