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Old 2008-10-27, 01:46
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Thumbs up GBL/GHB and Muscle Gain

I have been doing some reading because I am starting a workout plan, than doing a massive muscle gain workout plan after that. I am working my way into an ISSA cert to become a person trainer.

From what I have read GBL/GHB when taken will help repair muscles in deep sleep and help produce HGH that helps gain more muscle. I was just wondering if anyone else had thoughts on this, I cant find no real scientific reading to back this just words from steroid and muscle gain forums.

After my first workout plan I am doing a 10 week with 200mg weekly injections of Test. What should I be taking durring or after my cycles to help my body stay healthy?

Yea I know a werid question for BLTC and from me of all people but Im changing my life and this is what I want to do now.

Thanks for any help
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Old 2008-10-27, 02:37
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First of all how old are you? Yes GHB will help with muscle repair. 6-oxo, Nolvadex, Milk thistle, cycle support all sorts of shit you need on and lots of PCT for when your done. visit bodybuilding.com and goto the forums or BulkNutrition.com forums
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Old 2008-10-27, 04:49
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Im 19 almost 20. Im using the GBL/GHB to start and moving into a 200mg Test a week 10 week cycle later.
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Old 2008-10-27, 05:26
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http://www.bullseyegenetics.com/

Go to that link. There you will find something that will make your muscles 2x bigger.
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Old 2008-10-27, 06:18
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http://www.bullseyegenetics.com/

Go to that link. There you will find something that will make your muscles 2x bigger.
Hahahahahaha! Imagine actually going through with that shit, you couldn't look at yourself in the mirror ever again.
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Old 2008-10-27, 06:44
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Hoppin Low Scamma.

He posts threads about his internet hooks so you email asking him for the source and he gives you his other email which you send money to and loose.
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Old 2008-10-28, 01:40
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Hoppin Low Scamma.

He posts threads about his internet hooks so you email asking him for the source and he gives you his other email which you send money to and loose.
Naw Im working on becoming a trainer and I was wondering for some ore info on the GBL use. My mom O.Ked the use of it and is going to pay for 250ml of it and my $450 ISSA course. So I should be a person trainer in the next year, and looking like a sex god..lol
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Old 2008-10-28, 01:54
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I have been doing some reading because I am starting a workout plan, than doing a massive muscle gain workout plan after that. I am working my way into an ISSA cert to become a person trainer.

From what I have read GBL/GHB when taken will help repair muscles in deep sleep and help produce HGH that helps gain more muscle. I was just wondering if anyone else had thoughts on this, I cant find no real scientific reading to back this just words from steroid and muscle gain forums.

After my first workout plan I am doing a 10 week with 200mg weekly injections of Test. What should I be taking durring or after my cycles to help my body stay healthy?

Yea I know a werid question for BLTC and from me of all people but Im changing my life and this is what I want to do now.

Thanks for any help
Firstly as you probably know the only time muscles actually grow is during rest, specifically during REM sleep. GHB increases the length of REM sleep and decreases the onset but I would be more concerned about something else: 200mg of test is fucking ridiculous! Not only are you taking something completely unnecessary, you're taking way too much. I hope you've read up on steroids and their potential side effects, I also hope you're not worried about the potential baldness that can be caused by taking testosterone increasing steroids. I've been quite a druggie in my time but there is no way I will ever do steroids, not only are you changing your addiction to something else you're also further damage your health, almost moreso than you could from any recreational drug. I hope you know what you're in for.

Stay safe,
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Old 2008-10-28, 04:07
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Naw Im working on becoming a trainer and I was wondering for some ore info on the GBL use. My mom O.Ked the use of it and is going to pay for 250ml of it and my $450 ISSA course. So I should be a person trainer in the next year, and looking like a sex god..lol
Haha so you are not denying you are a fucking scammer now atleast? have fun getting addicted to ghb you little cheater. How about gaining muscle without cheating. You know without roids an hormones and then lots of proteins,vitamins, and supplements(of non roid or hormone nature)

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! Not only are you taking something completely unnecessary, you're taking way too much. I hope you've read up on steroids and their potential side effects, I also hope you're not worried about the potential baldness that can be caused by taking testosterone increasing steroids. I've been quite a druggie in my time but there is no way I will ever do steroids, not only are you changing your addiction to something else you're also further damage your health, almost moreso than you could from any recreational drug. I hope you know what you're in for.

Stay safe,
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i thougt testoserone was a hormone that can be produced synthetically? And if he is taking roids then hoppinscamma enjoy your heartattack, aneurysm, or stroke in 20-30 years.

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Old 2008-10-28, 04:55
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hah, GHB is a poor and unproven method for significantly boosting HGH serum concentrations....
It just happens naturally when you sleep....

I actually postulated doing this myself, but rather found a domestic source of rDNA 191AA HGH.

You could also try the IGF1, long strand.....
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Old 2008-10-28, 05:28
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i use ghb for this purpose it helps amazingly with muscle growth imo

ghb seems to skip rem stages 1-4 and go directly to 5, you always get beyond amazing sleep and i never wake up sore no matter how hard ive worked out

just make sure you don't take too much (ie recreational doses) before sleep because you don't want excess prolactin

a great PCT is clomid , it's what i used after my winny cycle (winstrol made my balls the size of walnuts though, they are back to normal now and the cycle was way worth it cause it ripped me up somethin fierce but idk do what you want i'm just rambling now)
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Old 2008-10-28, 16:08
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Jose Conseco (sp?) used that shit and now he's permanently depressed and tired for the rest of his life. But with those big muscles who needs to sleep and feel happy amirite?
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Old 2008-10-28, 16:11
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Lets start first...Im am training to get my ISSA cert to become a personal trainer Im too small now and need to bulk up before taking the test. Second If you think you should just eat protein and vitamins you are stupid. Items are for sale for a reason. Its 2008 you should work out and train like its 2008. The Chemicals where put on market for a reason.

And Steel211 My nigga send me an email using my list on my Username or get at me on AIM SN "GregoryDope" I want to talk to you about some things you will be a huge help.

Also I talked to my mom she is paying the $450 For my course and the ~$100 for the first bottle of GBL. She is 100% Cool with the GBL/GHB the roids is something I will do my own once I get a job and can buy em. They are cheap I can get 2 cycles of Test for $100 if I home brew.
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Old 2008-10-28, 18:47
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You can get test e and test p cheap as hell over the net. Steroids are a shitload easier to find than any research chem. Yo hoppin let me know how the cycle works out and how the ghb does too. Also are you planning on kickstarting your cycle with an oral aas?
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Old 2008-10-28, 18:51
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Also whats your pct consist of if you don't mind me asking?
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Old 2008-10-28, 19:57
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Lets start first...Im am training to get my ISSA cert to become a personal trainer Im too small now and need to bulk up before taking the test. Second If you think you should just eat protein and vitamins you are stupid. Items are for sale for a reason. Its 2008 you should work out and train like its 2008. The Chemicals where put on market for a reason.

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Yeah items are for sale so you can die from them hopefully. hopefully youll have a stroke and a heart attack just to make sure you cant survive.

Your body doesnt need dagerous chemicals to bulk up buddy. but hopefully darwins theory can show you that after its too late.

Anyone else notice he still didnt deny he scams people? god your a gangsta hoppin.
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Old 2008-10-28, 22:58
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I should be ordering 250ml of GBL tonight. My mom is paying for it, and is all for it. I'll Make a blog or something that Ill link up to this thread when I get started next week with week by week pictures of my gains and body changes. Should also be a referense for future people who want to use this method.

I am only using the GBL for this first 60-90 workout than start a test cycle if needed. Like said before Test is cheap as hell 100g is like $80 and thats enough for 2 cycles.

Also been doing some reading on GBL and working out so if anyone has some questions Ill be happy to help.
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Got the GBL ordered should be here the day or day after I start my bodybuilding workout. Im looking forward to doing it. In December Im taking the ISSA test so I will have my cert and a new job come January.
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Old 2008-10-29, 23:37
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In December Im taking the ISSA test so I will have my cert and a new job come January.

good luck with that. not alot of guys like having gaytrainers, so dont expect to keep your "job" for too long.

also, if you need to use drugs to gain muscle, you probly shouldnt be a personal trainer, its not like youd be any good at it.

p.s. i like how you told the guy to add you to msn, because you have an offer for him. hope he isnt stpud enough to be scammed. and yes, have you ever denied scamming people?
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Old 2008-10-30, 00:13
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good luck with that. not alot of guys like having gaytrainers, so dont expect to keep your "job" for too long.

also, if you need to use drugs to gain muscle, you probly shouldnt be a personal trainer, its not like youd be any good at it.

p.s. i like how you told the guy to add you to msn, because you have an offer for him. hope he isnt stpud enough to be scammed. and yes, have you ever denied scamming people?
Very very good point. When a guy comes in and wants to gain some mass are you going to tell them you will hook them up with a few cycles of roids and some gbl so they can bulk up. Obviously you wouldn't actually give them any you would tell them to email your "friend," and he will ship the goods when payment is received and then play dumb. (Uh oh now i am just giving him ideas)

Tell me hoppin, how are your going to teach people how to train and bulk up or whatever if you didn;t even do it yourself? All you are doing is making a false image. The only thing you can do is teach them how to cheat and then rip them off because that is what you know best.

I still dont understand why you fucking still come here. noone likes you, you little pussy ass bitch. I bet your mother is ashamed of you.



No i kept saying he is a scammer and he wont deny it. i didn't actually know if it was true or not but oviously from him not denying it he is one.

You are fucking funny hoppin. YOur little pussy scrwny ass can't rob people in real life so you have to use the interwebs to feel like a hoppinlowryda gansta og. i saw your avatar on bluelight you look like a little bitch.


Also can someone answer this for me. I have heard after doing a cycle of roids and gaining all that muscle mass you pretty much lose most of it again anyway. Is this true? I mean whats the fucking point if you cant even keep the gains? The only thing i see coming from it is setting yourself up for a healh disaster later on in your life. It sets a ticking time bomb in cardiovascular system.

I know your going to get hooked on the gbl/hb to. it will start with just at night and then get worse and worse. I mean taking it nightly during these cycles is enough to gain a dependence. You will start waking up at night and have to redose in no time. The supposed benefits of that shit greatly out weigh the risks and any logical thinking and rational person would understand and rcognize this.

its like you try and ignore all the bad shit that comes with it. I guess you are just to god damned stupid or retarded to get it.
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You will start waking up at night and have to redose in no time.

ive known people thatve been through that. dosnt seem like fun waking up every 2 hours to redose, then sleep for a couple more, redose, sleep a few......
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Old 2008-10-30, 00:24
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ive known people thatve been through that. dosnt seem like fun waking up every 2 hours to redose, then sleep for a couple more, redose, sleep a few......

This dumb ass doesn't care he just wants to gain some muscle fast that he will lose just as fast when he stops.

Gaining muscle naturally over a long period of time is always going to be better than trying to gain it fast as fuck in a couple weeks. Muscle you gained naturally is something that will stay with you.

I have always heard that if you must, you should only use roids when you have reached your natural limits.

Hoppin, you ever think about drug testing? I am sure anyplace you goto get a job will test for drug like that since it is probably common amongst trainers. You ever look at all the horrible short term an longerm side effects that come along with that shit? Because it is definetly not worth it with all the shit that can and will probabl happen as a result of roid and gbl/hb use.
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I have used GBL rec before and I have never had any adiction problems with it. I will not be taking large doses, Also a large number of personal trainers do use roids and other chemicals like GBL to help gain mass. Its part of the game, Its modern body building you use what science has to help you get more gains.
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Muscle you gained naturally is something that will stay with you.

not entirely. muscle will start to fade if not used. (your lift weights will go down if you take too long a break)

but its so much easier to regain natural muscle then steroid gained


I have used GBL rec before and I have never had any adiction problems with it.

whens the last time you took it 90 days in a row??


I will not be taking large doses.

dosnt matter. a small dose+ long time used = dependancy

Also a large number of personal trainers do use roids and other chemicals like GBL to help gain mass. Its part of the game, Its modern body building you use what science has to help you get more gains.

maybe so, but chances are they dont rely completly on drugs to gain muscle. there has got to be some natural strength & ability there to begin with.


just outa curiosity, whats your normal routine, and what weights are you at? (dont exagerate, but i know itll be hard for you not to)
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Old 2008-10-30, 00:29
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I have used GBL rec before and I have never had any adiction problems with it. I will not be taking large doses, Also a large number of personal trainers do use roids and other chemicals like GBL to help gain mass. Its part of the game, Its modern body building you use what science has to help you get more gains.


yes AFTER YOU REACH YOUR LIMITS.

Dose amount dose not matter. large/small it doesn't matter it will still be addictive.
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Old 2008-10-30, 00:31
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not entirely. muscle will start to fade if not used. (your lift weights will go down if you take too long a break)

but its so much easier to regain natural muscle then steroid gained

Well of course. But I am saying dont you lose alot of the mass anyway after you stop with the roids. And that is why people keep doing cycles.

also do anabolic roids mask infections like other commonly prescribed steroids do?

I am telling you he wants to cheat. it takes hard work to get big and he doesn;t want to work as hard. he obvioulsy has not reched his limits he justs want to get big fast so he looks like he knows what he is doing. But he really doesn't know shit about training or he would't be trying to cheat.
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Well of course. But I am saying dont you lose alot of the mass anyway after you stop with the roids. And that is why people keep doing cycles.


exactly. thats one of the benefit of being all natural.
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Old 2008-10-30, 00:36
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exactly. thats one of the benefit of being all natural.

K just making sure what i heard is correct. another benifit is it healthy. Yo wont stroke out or have a heart attack when you are 30 either. Atleast your chances will be less.
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200mg a week is somewhat of a waste if you're going to do a REAL cycle. Although you probably won't get too shut down, your results won't be extraordinary either.

I think 200mg of Test Prop EOD for 8 weeks would be a good idea if you don't want to up the dose. But with you being 19 or 20 (don't remember), you may want to hold off and just train because when you first start training you gain very quickly.
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Old 2008-10-31, 02:19
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haha i can beat your skinny junkie ass with my dick and two balls. only my two balls though if i really try though
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haha i can beat your skinny junkie ass with my dick and two balls. only my two balls though if i really try though


He's getting bulked up so that he's good and ready when he gets sent to the federal pen for hustling gallons of liquid LSD.
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Old 2008-10-31, 21:35
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haha i can beat your skinny junkie ass with my dick and two balls. only my two balls though if i really try though


Only because he wouldnt be able to keep himself from sucking you off.

Hey hoppin leet source wizard will you get me some to?
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