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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-10-26, 20:19
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fretbuzz 
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first time shroom tonight
So looking back I can't seem to find any threads on advice for first time shroom trips. All I saw were acid, salvia and some other drugs I can't remember. Anyways in the past I've been opposed to taking shrooms because A) I'm not eating some sketchy field picked mushroom without being able to identify it and B) I've heard the trip is either surprisingly good or surprisingly bad. I don't want to ingest a drug and not enjoy it.
So my friend tells me he ate a half-eighth of some indoor grown shrooms and said he was tripping the hardest he'd ever tripped for 8 hours. I'm inclined to try these mushrooms, after he explained his trip to me. We're eating them tonight.
I'll take any advice on what sort of setting to be in, what to have, what to wear, etc. I just want everything to go as smoothly as possible. I've found myself in the depths of some crazy acid trips and I don't think anything could be as weird as 2c-e, but I've heard shrooms rip your world apart.
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#2
 2008-10-26, 20:29
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Re: first time shroom tonight
Music mostly. Feel free to add a star filled sky for epic results.
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#3
 2008-10-26, 20:37
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Re: first time shroom tonight
Go out and enjoy nature, mushrooms take to nature better than any other drug i've taken. That being said, make sure to dress warmly if its going to be cold or dressed for whatever weather conditions there is going to be.
bring weed, the two have a great synergistic affect. Uh...The good thing about mushrooms is there is a very distinguishable peak and if your friend is right, the peak is going to be intense; however, when you want to start coming down, you will start coming down. Its not like acid where you get hit with waves and it lasts another 6-7 hours after the peak.
Different visuals than acid, etc. etc.
Oh, and make sure to get some good music going on your MP3 if you have one.
But bottom line, get outside, be aware of your surroundings, etc.
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#4
 2008-10-26, 20:39
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Re: first time shroom tonight
Shrooms is alright not as good as acid its more euphoric but w,e you will like them they make you feel like shit though lol and the taste gross and you wont be able to sleep
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#5
 2008-10-26, 20:44
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Kbasa 
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Re: first time shroom tonight
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Originally Posted by CosmicZombie
Shrooms is alright not as good as acid its more euphoric but w,e you will like them they make you feel like shit though lol and the taste gross and you wont be able to sleep
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I've never had any of these problems, the next day I usually have an amazing afterglow. I've never had a problem sleeping after shrooms...
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#6
 2008-10-26, 20:51
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Re: first time shroom tonight
I've never had any of these problems, the next day I usually have an amazing afterglow. I've never had a problem sleeping after shrooms...
Opposite for me and most people I've talked to, can't sleep due to having their mind fucked, rearranged out and in turn given a glimpse of greatness (and emptiness) that they could have never dreamed. All depends though.
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#7
 2008-10-26, 21:15
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fretbuzz 
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Re: first time shroom tonight
I have oxycodone so if and when I want to be knocked out I could just take 30mg.
Should I eat the shrooms on an empty stomach, or half full of carbs like pasta or what?
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#8
 2008-10-26, 21:40
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Re: first time shroom tonight
personally I'd take the oxy with the shrooms right right off the bat. If you are at all worried about having a bad trip it would be a good way to relax you, and make your trip that much better.
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#9
 2008-10-26, 22:11
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Re: first time shroom tonight
Don't worry about a bad trip, you said you've done one of those research chemicals and I'm sure those are really fucking crazy. But you're only doing a half 8th, not a huge dose, but enough to make you trip. You will have an awesome time, just chill and let the shrooms take over and just don't be afraid. Of course you may be a bit nervous doing it for your first time but I really can't imagine having a bad trip on shrooms. Just make sure you're not gonna be with stupid people that will piss you off. Just trip with 1-2 other friends and go to a park or something. Don't combine the oxy off the bat, then you won't have energy to do anything. Just chill and trip out and look at the stars and shit.
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#10
 2008-10-26, 23:45
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fretbuzz 
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Re: first time shroom tonight
thanks, i'm off now. i'll let you guys know how it goes.
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#11
 2008-10-27, 00:08
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Re: first time shroom tonight
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Originally Posted by fretbuzz
I have oxycodone so if and when I want to be knocked out I could just take 30mg.
Should I eat the shrooms on an empty stomach, or half full of carbs like pasta or what?
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If you see this in time, empty stomach or a light meal a few hours before, more intense trip, possibly less nausea.
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#12
 2008-10-27, 05:11
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Re: first time shroom tonight
Weigh your dose out if you have a scale. I fed these two chicks shooms last tuesday; it was their first mushroom trip. We were driving around and one of them finds a small baggie of my shrooms that I had lost, containing about 12 mushrooms and ~2in of what I thought was mushroom shake. She got really excited and asked if we could all partake. I thought that it was just a left over eight that I had, so I said "yeah, if you guys want to split it". We ended up splitting it four ways, each person got 3 shrooms and we made tea out if the shake. Damn, my friend and I tripped really hard(with Acid tolerance 2 days prior) and the chicks, well, they just wouldn't shut up. They also trashed our house and broke kandy all over the place.....
The next day I remembered that the shake was not coir/vermiculite/horse shit but that I had combined about 10.5g of powdered mushrooms with the mushrooms when I was drying my stuff out.
So yeah, pay attention and dose in a well lit area. Also, Mushrooms are more of a mind fuck than acid(so to speak), the process of linear thought becomes somewhat disarrayed/clouded, and for some people speech and ability to carry on contingent thought diminish.
Don't let this worry you though, if you respect the shrooms and go into the trip prepared you're going to have the fucking time of your life. I learned about 3 hours into the trip that the girls that I was with had decided at the spur of the moment to get fucked up, and n the end the shrooms fucked them up. Now everybody is pissed at/hates them because they messed my house up.
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#13
 2008-10-27, 06:12
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Re: first time shroom tonight
I know it's already too late, but: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/1 .
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#14
 2008-10-27, 19:39
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fretbuzz 
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Re: first time shroom tonight
I ate a half eighth of these dried shrooms and was completely disappointed. My head felt like it had more pressure in it and hour after dosing but other than that I didn't feel anything. It felt like I could have started tripping at any moment but I never did. Basically I paid 10 bucks to eat mushrooms for dinner. They tasted pretty damn good actually.
Did I not eat enough or were those impure shrooms? Should I eat a whole eighth instead? Also will I destroy the active chemicals if I throw the mushies into a hot steak taco or something and eat them that way? Just break up the caps and mix it in?
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#15
 2008-10-27, 19:45
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Re: first time shroom tonight
They tasted good and did nothing at all?
I dunno man. In my experience, shrooms are disgusting and even as little as a gram produces noticeable and enjoyable changes in my perception.
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#16
 2008-10-27, 19:48
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ate 
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Re: first time shroom tonight
Those were low potency shrooms.
You could also say you didn't eat enough because some people swear by 1/8.
I would say to eat 2 to 3 grams first time.
I ate 1.5, then another gram and then about another .5 my first time, I was sad when they started to fade and I knew I couldn't take more because the 2 hour mark had past.
My friend grew in his backyard, we harvested a few big piles full throughout the summer. It was absolutely beautiful.
Those were visual so the words on the tv were turning inside out and dancing and doing their own little thing, everything was, the tiles on the floor separated and twisted off into their own sequence of changes, peoples faces melted and looked like they were beautifully painted on every nano-second with thousands of pastel colors and paintbrushes. It was truly beautiful, and the mind was finding patterns and loops in everything realizing life was just one big trip.
So, try to get fresh shrooms next time, or eat more.
Too much heat will destroy them, but a taco should be fine unless it's too hot for you to eat.
If you want to eat them a different way and have them hit you harder make shroom tea, but don't burn them. Drink all of it, all the powder on the bottom too.
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#17
 2008-10-27, 21:36
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fretbuzz 
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Re: first time shroom tonight
Everyone else was complaining about the taste and saying how terrible they were. Everyone mixed their's with peanut butter, but I just put a cap in my mouth to try it and I liked it. I'm a mushroom person though. I enjoy mushroom pizza, sauteed mushrooms on my steak, mushroom soup, mushroom stir-fry, etc.
I might just invest in an incubation and fruiting chamber and grow my own for some delicious dinner recipes. Better luck next time, I guess.
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#18
 2008-10-27, 21:48
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Re: first time shroom tonight
I'm not really a big fan of shrooms, I love that its impossible to have a bad trip but I can't really ever say I've had anything better then a neutral time with mushrooms. They give a crazy body high and everything feels exciting and new and entertaining (childlike sense of wonder), but they just make me feel such a strong sense of confusion that it kills the fun I'm having. It's never enough to make a negative experience I just really cant call it fun
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#19
 2008-10-28, 01:21
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Re: first time shroom tonight
Shrooms effect everybody differently, like my friend who is bigger than me took 1.5 grams and was tripping pretty good. Then the next weekend me, my friend, and my other friend each took 2 grams and it hit me ok, but my other friend who is a lot bigger than me the hardest. But, we were just hanging out on this kids property with beer, fire, music, and weed. Greatest time ever! I wanna relive that.
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#20
 2008-11-10, 21:43
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fretbuzz 
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Re: first time shroom tonight
Ok, so last friday I tried the same shrooms again. This time eating an eighth and for the first time experiencing a profound shroom trip.
I went over to my same friend's house and bought an eighth. I chewed the caps up one by one and swallowed. I spent about an hour waiting for the first effects. I drove out to this guy's hotel he was staying at to buy oxycodone for the comedown. This guy is the epitome of an opiate binger and is never coherent when he speaks, so naturally I was a bit confused on where to turn. He said something like, "Oh you'll see a bank sign so turn right after it." I asked which bank it was but he didn't know and then mentioned that it was unlite...right. Anyway so not being able to find the turn I said fuck it and decided the spend the roxy money on gas. I began to trip at the gas station.
The pumps looked unfamiliar, and I watched the sides of every straight edge have multiple edges. I got lost staring into the branches of an oak tree next to the fuel station. When I was about done pumping an old guy who didn't know where he was dove up next to my car and asked for directions. All of a sudden I knew the town we were in but nothing else. Everything went blank like I was trying to grasp wherever I was. Suddenly after studying my surroundings while the old guy muttered on about having to get to this other town, I realized where I was, gave him his directions and was on my way. Just weird how I brain lapsed like that.
I got back to my friend's house, who had been asleep all day and was still passed out on his bed. The other people who had gotten me the shrooms had piled into a car and left just as I had left the house, so arriving in a slightly different state of mind with nobody there was sort of creepy. I felt like Depp in Fear and Loathing when he's in the hotel lobby on acid after they first arrive in Vegas, and he's sitting at the bar and turns to talk to his attorney and he's not there. I used the bathroom and sat down to watch TV, waiting for these 2 guys and these 2 chicks to come back from the store - they were getting a bottle. They eventually came back and we all chilled. They asked me how I was doing and I said I was definitely tripping but it was really gentle. The house walls would change color from green to blue, object seemed like their textures were "crawling", walls were "breathing" slightly, and I had mad giggles and was just having a great night - best state of mind I'd ever been in on a psychedelic. I tried to put my finger on what this feeling was and then I got it.... it felt like the psychedelic aspect of MDMA greatly intensified. It sort of felt like I was blowing up.
They offered me some shots but knowing I'd be driving home later that night I turned them down. I don't need a DUI if I was to be fucked by a pig. The house was extremely lively at about 2 hours from dosing. Objects stood out more, I felt like everything moved around me. All of a sudden I got this sharp stomach cramp/pain and so I asked my friendwhat was up. He said I might not even be peaking yet and I would find he was certainly correct. Trying to cope with this strange stromach pain, a bunch of people started showing up and this one dude was trying to score heroin, so I dipped out of there.
I have this 60's and early 70's CD in my car with bands like Strawberry Alarm Clock, Jefferson Airplane, Three Dog Night, Mamas and Papas, etc so I listened to it on the drive home. It was the second most insightful car drive of my life, the first being on cid. I started blowing up really hard listening to all that music and I truely realized what the hippies had tried to do. I started thinking of the "wave speech" by Hunter S. Thompson and what it really meant. By the way, White Rabbit and Combination of the Two REALLY tripped me out. By this time I was arriving home at around 2am. My trip had changed from a outward sensory trip to a profound head-high. I got out of my car and stared at the half moon and the stars. The stars danced around in the clear night sky. Trees and plants boggled my mind. It was like a strange, alien being sapping chaos and raw materials from the Earth to create order and symmetry. I started thinking about animals and how they are the same thing but free-standing and mobile, like a bubble of life that had sprung out from the ashes of existence. It was a cold night with fog hovering a few feet above everything. The night just didn't seem to be the right environment to trip on these blessed mushrooms. I started thinking about how much more amazing it would be outdoors during the daytime. I decided to go inside where it was warm.
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Basically for the rest of the night I had an intense trip. It was like a true experience of life - what life is supposed to be like. I was so connected with everything. I found loopholes in practicly everything which later didn't make sense. My eyes watered with joy and happiness in this state of mind and I couldn't wipe the smirk off my face the entire night.
Downsides were the fact that I couldn't put together very well structured sentences or convey what I truely felt to others. I would loose my train of thought a lot during conversation. That sharp pain in the pit of my stomach didn't go away til about the last hour of my trip. Laying down made me feel better. It felt like the muscles around my stomach had been stunned and went lax allowing my stomach to move around in its cavity. Not a pleasant feeling but bearable.
Overall an amazing experience. I'm doing them again very soon. I guess a half-eighth of shrooms just doesn't cut it for me. An eighth put me where I wanted to be. :)
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