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Old 2008-10-26, 10:54
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Default Nastiest comedowns

With my drug experience thus far, I'm going to have to say that Methylphenidate (Ritalin) is probably the worst. I've never gotten a comedown so bad that I just didn't know what to do. Stimulants pretty much share this state, Ritalin was actually suicide territory though.

So, let's turn this into a question. What's the worst drug comedown?
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Old 2008-10-26, 11:00
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I'd say tweak personally, followed by oxies and other opiates on that level
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Old 2008-10-26, 11:05
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I'd say tweak personally, followed by oxies and other opiates on that level
I take opiate comedowns pretty well, I don't think they have anything on stims.
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Old 2008-10-26, 11:08
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I'd say that (from my experiences) that meth has the worst comedown. The second time I did meth I had a particularly bad comedown, it was a relatively high-dose of some reasonable quality gear. It was really good (obviously) until it wore off, and then the comedown was bad, but not terrible, and it lasted for about 4-5 hours, until I eventually passed out due to lack of sleep. My drug-use mainly consists of ecstasy, acid and pot--none of which I get bad comedowns from--so it's been a while since I've had a bad comedown. My brother who does a fair bit of coke says that coke comedowns are horrendous, but I've yet to experience the joys of coke, so I really couldn't say for sure. I'd imagine it wouldn't be overly pleasant.
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Old 2008-10-26, 11:37
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My worst comedown was on mescaline, after hours of ridiculous bliss and fun times with two of my best friends and one friend that resembles a badger we all decided it was time to sleep but i just couldn't keep my eyes closed and went down stairs to just put some music on and chill but everything just felt devoid of happiness and I was all alone.
One of my friends (Not the badger) also couldn't sleep and ended up coming to join me because he was crashing pretty hard aswell, but with eachothers company we managed to muster up the will to tidy the kitchen just so we'd have a mundane task to do that would distract us from the misery.
After that we thought we'd go outside for some fresh air because the house had this stale feeling to it but as soon as i opened the door a police car went by slowly, and my friends house (The badger) is on a police watch list because of parties he has had in the past, so we ended p completely pranging out and went into the living room and had to stay away from the windows.
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Old 2008-10-26, 12:17
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I'd say tweak personally, followed by oxies and other opiates on that level
coming off a week long oxie/methadone binge was the worse, that hurt.
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Old 2008-10-26, 13:25
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Crack was the shittiest for me. Don't smoke crack kids, it sucks after about 5 minutes.
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Old 2008-10-26, 13:41
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I had some Smileys and they had a proper rough comedown.

My guess would be that they were Speed or some shit, they weren't MDxx anyway.
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Old 2008-10-26, 13:45
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Pills give you the dirtiest comedown I've experienced, when they mix speed/meth/ketamine/rat poison/whatever the fuck they like to try and mimic the effects of MD. I've never done crack meth or opiates though, so I can't tell you what those comedowns are like.
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Old 2008-10-26, 14:15
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Being forced to be a functioning member of society after a bad trip on 6mgs of DOM sucks.
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Old 2008-10-26, 14:26
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Crack
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Old 2008-10-26, 14:37
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dirty E pills. Its like hitting a brick wall.


sucks when your trying to do shit..
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Old 2008-10-26, 15:53
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Default Re: Nastiest comedowns

Ive done Shit meth once that wasnt too bad but i dont consider the dream like haze from adderall and other amphetamines a come-down.

acid, shrooms, rolls, mdma,( coke 2nd worst if u dont do it often/ by itself.)

weed, all kinds of opes, and some other shit but i gotta agree that methylphenidate is the worst if u take a whole bunch its so not worth takin the shit in the first place done it one time and will never again. makes ur body hurt real bad and shit horrible nasty.
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Old 2008-10-26, 16:49
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150mg of adderall, 50mg of ritalin, and 300mg of welbutrin = one day in hell.
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Old 2008-10-26, 17:40
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Cocaine. I've never really tried a good dose of opiates or meth, though.

I wouldn't really say the comedown is THAT bad, it just makes you really "physically irritable" like you want to stretch and scratch a lot. The worst experience with a comedown I ever had was when I was doing a few lines while on mushrooms. When you run out of coke at the same time the mushrooms wear off, it can be depressing. I've only had like 3 real "nights out with cocaine", but I can tell why some people get bad with it. There's a point where I feel like doing any more in the night will be unhealthy for the cardiovascular system, yet you still want to shove another line up your nose 15 minutes later.
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Old 2008-10-26, 18:23
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Ive done Shit meth once that wasnt too bad but i dont consider the dream like haze from adderall and other amphetamines a come-down.

acid, shrooms, rolls, mdma,( coke 2nd worst if u dont do it often/ by itself.)

weed, all kinds of opes, and some other shit but i gotta agree that methylphenidate is the worst if u take a whole bunch its so not worth takin the shit in the first place done it one time and will never again. makes ur body hurt real bad and shit horrible nasty.
What the fuck are you rambling about? Weed? Are you serious?


And I don't know about you guys with your opiate "comedowns" and shit, but I've never had a proper comedown with any type of opiate, rather it just gradually wears off.
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Old 2008-10-26, 18:31
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pretty much any upper, coming down off MDMA sucks, coming down off amphetamines sucks, coming down from coke is terrible, etc.
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Old 2008-10-26, 18:31
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stupid acolyte.
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Old 2008-10-26, 19:19
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adderall is the devil
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Old 2008-10-26, 19:23
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Comedown from a coke binge wins, hands down.

Worse comedown from a single dose? Crack.
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Old 2008-10-26, 19:27
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Comedown from a coke binge wins, hands down.

Worse comedown from a single dose? Crack.
This. Very much this.
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Old 2008-10-26, 19:44
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This. Very much this.
coke comedowns dont worry me v much as il usually have sum DHCs

dirty E comedowns are the worst
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Old 2008-10-26, 22:00
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ketamine, (or at least that's what I think it was in my drink) I had no energy yet my body screamed to move and eat
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Old 2008-10-26, 22:11
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stupid acolyte.
Hate to break it to you man, but judging by your posts you're the one with the low IQ.
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Old 2008-10-26, 22:23
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I've had some pretty shitty coke comedowns, amphetamines can be bad, never tried meth, I imagine that would have to be worse...opiate comedowns though? I mean I get a small headache sometimes when I'm coming off em but never anything close to stims.
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Old 2008-10-26, 22:32
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Probably doing E. Second time I did it, I chewed up my lip so badly and it was so swollen I couldn't eat much. I was hungrier than I'd ever been in my life, but I couldn't eat and I was so sleep deprived, but I couldn't fall asleep. I was feeling so shitty and depressed on the comedown.

Other bad one was having drank like 10 beers and a decent amount of liquor. Doing two hits of E and then doing coke the first time. Had been up all night and the coke comedown just stacked up with everything else.
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Old 2008-10-26, 22:37
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dirty E and a lot of Hamm's beer.

absolute shit.
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Old 2008-10-27, 00:29
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I would have to say coke. Just lying there, trying to sleep, grinding your teeth, and not being able to sleep sucks. But I get horribly depressed, I know its from the drugs too, but I just feel like shit (mentally) after a bunch of good coke.
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Old 2008-10-27, 00:39
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I would have to say coke. Just lying there, trying to sleep, grinding your teeth, and not being able to sleep sucks. But I get horribly depressed, I know its from the drugs too, but I just feel like shit (mentally) after a bunch of good coke.
Damn, coke and ritalin comedowns are pretty similar.
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Old 2008-10-27, 01:08
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Default Re: Nastiest comedowns

After a sleepless night that involved the consumption of three dodgy rolls and Milwaukee Best Ice and half a ball of blow, I wound up on my hands and knees in my driveway at 7 AM hacking away at the cement with a switchblade because the liquor store refused to open until 10.
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Old 2008-10-27, 01:46
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After a sleepless night that involved the consumption of three dodgy rolls and Milwaukee Best Ice and half a ball of blow, I wound up on my hands and knees in my driveway at 7 AM hacking away at the cement with a switchblade because the liquor store refused to open until 10.
I lol'd
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Old 2008-10-27, 02:21
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I would guess that it's meth. Never did it, but being up for a week and being on edge all the time seems like a bad comedown.
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Old 2008-10-27, 17:43
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Definitely methylphenidate for me. Has so much effect on noradrenaline that it's really not worth it unless you have some potent benzos for the 24-48 hours after dosing.

For about 1 hour worth of actual 'high', it's a really nasty stimulant. Even 30mg sends my bpm to around 120 for at least 12 hours.
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Old 2008-10-27, 19:48
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ritalin was the only drug to help me dunk on a regulation rim and im only 5'8

later that day i sprained my ankle so bad i needed surgery, but the pain was so agonizing that i was just like, wow this REALLY HURTS! Not to mention how depressed I was that it was gonna be a few good months with out running
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Old 2008-10-27, 23:12
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CO-CAINE. meth you can avoid the comedown if you plan it right. start doing it around 8 at night stay up until the next day finish the last of your shit by 2 and pass out by 10
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Old 2008-10-28, 01:40
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GGGRRR!!! FENTANYL!

I have been having a baaad day
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Old 2008-10-28, 06:40
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ya....crack.
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Old 2008-10-28, 14:00
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i had a shitty comedown from ecstasy yesterday.
It was more like 2 pills of meth though.

ughhh i still get shivers thinking about it
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Old 2008-10-28, 20:28
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With my drug experience thus far, I'm going to have to say that Methylphenidate (Ritalin) is probably the worst. I've never gotten a comedown so bad that I just didn't know what to do. Stimulants pretty much share this state, Ritalin was actually suicide territory though.

So, let's turn this into a question. What's the worst drug comedown?
herbal E's called fast and furious. Think that london underground company makes them. That comedown just made u want your life to end.
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Old 2008-10-28, 20:34
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Good ol' Alcohol

Ecstasy and having to go school shopping the next day, i wanted to drop kick the next toddler that got in my way....

Caffeine binge, so strung out.... heart pounding, muscles twitching, exhausted but wanting to move, starting to go into a mild delirium from lack of sleep, and nauseous....
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Old 2008-10-29, 00:28
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BZP 'party pills' that I had when I visited Auckland last. Far and away worse than MDMA or meth or any speed I have consumed.
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With my drug experience thus far, I'm going to have to say that Methylphenidate (Ritalin) is probably the worst. I've never gotten a comedown so bad that I just didn't know what to do. Stimulants pretty much share this state, Ritalin was actually suicide territory though.

So, let's turn this into a question. What's the worst drug comedown?


Yeah, dexmethylphenidate (Focalin) had a pretty shitty comedown for me, after tweaking on it all night.

MDMA always gave me a pretty bad crash/comedown for the next day.
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Old 2008-10-29, 03:03
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For the short term comedown its crack for sure,, you spend 20 dollars and it lasts about 10 minutes followed by 2 hours of severe depression and wondering why the fuck you didnt buy nerve pills or opiates instead.

For the long term would have to be when I quit going to the methadone clinic after about a year. I was on 45 mg's a day, I never got sick but I felt like absolute shit for a month, and gradually got better over the next month.
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Old 2008-10-29, 07:22
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1) Unclean E pills
2a) Stimulant doses that make you want MORE! (way too low)
2b) Stimulant doses that are way too high.
3) Alcohol

In no particular order.
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Old 2008-10-30, 19:06
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GGGRRR!!! FENTANYL!

I have been having a baaad day :(


patch binge? maybe vaped ? or eaten? I never had a comedown from fent, but then again only wore the patch and heated it.

Salvia comedown is the worst but only if you smoked just enough to get fucked up but not enough for a break through... sitting there sweating and wondering wtf did i just do to myself?? and why?!
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1) Unclean E pills
2a) Stimulant doses that make you want MORE! (way too low)
2b) Stimulant doses that are way too high.
3) Alcohol

In no particular order.


thats the key to meth (and i'm sure other drugs like, crack, opiates, what not) i think. binging for a couple days followed by a crash with some good buds is really not that bad. as long as you planned it right and can devote a day or two to smoking weed, napping, eating, hydrating.
but when you get just a few good hits off some bomb-ass crystal, then nothing, with no means to get any more..that fucking is the worst. not even some good dank sounds appealing. all you think about is how to get more, nothing else seems important. that imho is the worst feeling ever. not really a crash, but more of a feening. nothing you can do makes anything better,because all thats on your mind is getting more dope. thats why unless i know i'm gonna have enough for myself i'll pass up that free line, or that pass of the bowl.

comedowns are part of drugs, when you can plan your use with the comedown in mind, i.e. have some good buds/benzos, and a day to re coupe after some good crystal, then it's no big deal. but if you use randomly and have to devote your time to work or school during any kind of comedown than it surely will sucks ballz.
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Old 2008-10-31, 04:35
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I wouldn't know, I just smoke dope now and then.
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Old 2008-10-31, 09:11
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Doet.
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Old 2008-10-31, 12:32
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thats the key to meth (and i'm sure other drugs like, crack, opiates, what not) i think. binging for a couple days followed by a crash with some good buds is really not that bad. as long as you planned it right and can devote a day or two to smoking weed, napping, eating, hydrating.
but when you get just a few good hits off some bomb-ass crystal, then nothing, with no means to get any more..that fucking is the worst. not even some good dank sounds appealing. all you think about is how to get more, nothing else seems important. that imho is the worst feeling ever. not really a crash, but more of a feening. nothing you can do makes anything better,because all thats on your mind is getting more dope. thats why unless i know i'm gonna have enough for myself i'll pass up that free line, or that pass of the bowl.

comedowns are part of drugs, when you can plan your use with the comedown in mind, i.e. have some good buds/benzos, and a day to re coupe after some good crystal, then it's no big deal. but if you use randomly and have to devote your time to work or school during any kind of comedown than it surely will sucks ballz.

Definitely, I usually have a satisfying dose of speed then re-dose the next day with a smaller amount just to keep me alive.

Benzos are a godsend though. Nothing like a good days tweak followed by a good nights sleep!! :P

Too bad toughing it out is usually the only option for me.
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Benzos are a godsend though. Nothing like a good days tweak followed by a good nights sleep!! :P

I'm a firm believer that amphetamine/methamphetamine dealers should include a care package of Valium with their products. Would be great customer service.
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I'm a firm believer that amphetamine/methamphetamine dealers should include a care package of Valium with their products. Would be great customer service.

Ha, no shit.

Ah, comedowns... the reason I don't touch any stimulant harder than caffeine these days :). I used to get really bad ones off Ecstasy, I would feel like a dog's rectum for a fucking week; completely depressed. I took Dexedrine for about 3-4 years daily, and while the comedowns from d-amp are generally pretty 'clean', they could really get fucking hellish. Awful stuff to do daily, even at low prescribed doses. And then there's cocaine... ugh. Whenever I come off that shit, it's like there's a little fucking gremlin in my head saying 'everything is lame, your life sucks, your life will always suck, you suck, go die' -- even if in reality everything is going great. No fun, terribly destructive stuff.

Some people just weren't cut out for stimulants, I suppose.
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I'm a firm believer that amphetamine/methamphetamine dealers should include a care package of Valium with their products. Would be great customer service.

Fuck the care package. No dope dealer wants their buyer to 'come down' and no buyer wants to 'come down'

I'm a firm believer that dope dealers need to include a care package of a little hidden puddle.
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Old 2008-10-31, 20:21
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I rarely use stims anymore because the comedowns were so bad. thats the main reason i would not try meth.

I have never had a comedown from opiates though. maybe a slight hangover from morphine, but a hangover from a night of drinking is way worse.
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Old 2008-10-31, 21:02
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a hangover from a night of drinking is way worse.

Now THAT, I find, is way easier to get used to...
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