With a few friends, doing 1.5gs, no tolerance to opiates, gonna be a one time thing. Is that too much? too little if I'm only doing it once in this lifetime?

Also, think I'll get addicted? I have quite strong will power.

put as much as in your arm as you can asap.

Unless it's you and 149 friends, yea, it's too much. Or, quite possibly, it's cut to shit so bad that there's only like .05g's (50mgs) of H in the whole thing. I might just be used to good stuff, but with H, it doesn't take much, especially with no tolerance. The e-jerks here at totse will say better too much than too little, ^^^, but their just being funny.

As for how to get the most out of it: find some Magnesium nutritional supplements. Eat two right beforehand. (or just some milk of magnesia-find it at u'r local grocery store) Also, if you can get liquor, it would make your experience much more enjoyable (not much, just to supplement the buzz). Finally, START SMALL. REALLY SMALL. H is strong stuff, don't fuck up. If you up-nose some, and don't think u'r high enough after a couple 'o minutes, just up some more. Like I said before, don't be stupid.

As for the addiction, if you eat (250-500)mgs of magnesium (either from pills or milk of magnesia) before you dose, you won't find yourself getting much of a tolerance* at all (*theory - link: http://www.john-libbey-eurotext.fr/e.../7E/article.md) (trust me, this is very important). Mental addiction, on the other hand, is inevitable. H is tops. Best of the best. Blows away any other sensation you will ever feel ever. If happiness was a single chemical, it would be H. But, if you don't get a tolerance or OD, a mental addiction isn't that big of a problem.

My trolldar is picking something up at 12 o'clock.

I can't quite make out what it is. We'll have to wait and see.

hahahah

I did .05gs last night, no potassium, that shit is fucking weak

50mgs? You either have shit heroin or no heroin.

^^^ this. Looks like u got the cheap shit. No worries. Just do more. Figure out how cut-up it is. Just keep in mind that if you ever do get good stuff, .05g's should be more than adequate. BTW, Magnesium, not potassium.

hypnowhatever, which drugs specifically does the magnesium lowering tolerance work for? specifically xanax? adderall? please enlighten me

Did you smoke it or snort it? Also, willpower doesn't really matter in my experience. I've met plenty of people who've said the same thing and ended up as junkies. I like the sound of the magnesium thing though, I'll have to remember that.

does taking magnesium before hand really help with the tolerance? also i get powder and ive been sniffing it.. trying to smoke it wouldnt be a getter idea would it?

Hahahahahahahahahahaha that's fucking classic. You'd probably OD on .1 grams if it's anything worth a flying fuck. HAhahahahahahahaha.

Did you feel it?


This. 50 mg, no tolerance you should have nodded into a sleep if it was even real heroin.

Oh I love Heroin

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i had a junkie roomate who kept stealing from us and he kept crying being irrational
i wanted to take it, but not anymore because he is a pussy

btw the fucktard, after we kicked him out, broke into my parents cars and took their shit
if i find him, hes dead. nigga houdini'd

I've only ever smoked it, and I've only ever had powder. It gives a better rush that snorting, and it's harder to OD.

Yes I felt it, it just wasn't as powerful as I expected it to be. My one chance was wasted = \

I asked the exact same question about 2 years ago. I had plenty of will power- with everything else. Im now addicted to heroin.

If you want to do it, no ones going to be able to talk you out of it. But make sure, if you dont want it to happen to you- THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHERE TO GET IT ON YOUR OWN. That is the thing thatll end up fucking you.



CaspeR

Smoking powder is fucking stupid.

This. Although if you really want it you can always find it in any major city. Junkies just know where to look and who to ask instinctively. Unfortunately you end up stuck with that talent for life. Even when you're off it for awhile whenever you visit a new city in the world the first thing you do is suss out where the gear is at. You can't help it. If you really want to only try it once then do what casperR said. And yes, normally the first time isn't as strong as you expected it to be because you're always going to be safe because it is heroin after all. When you get your first good nod you'll know what it's all about. Welcome to the downward spiral my friend. It might take a year or two but, even with willpower, it'll eventually become a necessary part of your life. Although, your willpower will come in handy if you want to be a functional addict and not just a downright fucking junky. Contrary to the scary propaganda it is possible to live day to day in the normal world with a habit. it sucks and it doesn't at the same time. it could be worse though, you could be a messy alcoholic. that shit's just baaad!

All you can really get is powder here man, I'm in Canada.

Will you get addicted? It's a very real possibility. Maybe not right away, maybe you can manage a weekend habit or monthly habit. Or maybe you'll fall for it right away. It doesn't matter how much you think you can handle it, somewhere along the line you could find yourself stuck in the vicious cycle that is addiction. When you know the joy that heroin can give you and you're feeling down or depressed or your girl broke up with you or whatever reason, dope can find a hold on you. I know someone that did heroin once, didn't touch it for years then tried it again and over a not so long period of time found himself hooked.

It is possible to use heroin without getting addicted. But know that it's a tough game and once you get into it the rules tend to change.

Also, 1.5g is quite a lot of diesel for having no tolerance. Where I'm at (northeast, real good stuff) 1.5g would probably be around 3 bundles. I know a lot of people would say that's bullshit, but I also wouldn't trust a junky to eyeball small amounts of powder.

What's with all this pessimism regarding addiction? Some of you guys make it seem like a little heroin is the end of the world.

Can we please drop the dramatic film noire narrations?

I just tried tar today for the first time . But, still you shouldn't smoke powder. Snort or shoot it.

Where you live? I ve been talking to frost_byte and people in other areas about the stuff theyre used to getting.

And yes, addiction does affect people differently. When I caught me girl cheating on me, it got a lot worse. But for the most part, im still the top student in all my courses, my professors all like me, I was able to hold down a job (for a while), and no one really knew what was going on until I told them. It all depends on the person. It has forced me to do some shady shit so I woudnt be sick tho. Just be fucking careful. The minute you can get it on your own is when your life is gonna change a LOT.

Heroin is absolutely like nothing else ive ever experienced. It can lull you to sleep and take away every ounce of pain youre feeling. But when you dont have it- its complete hell.

CaspeR

I know, but i don't really like snorting and I'm just not willing to go to needles.

a gram of dope makes about 4 bundles when cut thats 10-13 tickets per bundle each ticket only has .2 in it and its usually only .1 dope .1 quinide (sp?) aka cut.
so if you get a gram and a half do it between 3 people with no kinda tolerance your prolly gunna die by the way your prolly gunna get some str8 cut shit because there's not to many people who
sell grams of d it's usually the man who supplies the man who supplies the man who sells it str8 grams around here ( north east pa) if you know the right person you can get a gram
for 100-120 but most people around here just sell tickets bundles and bricks shit they just caught a gang commin from ny to pa sellin 150,000 $ a week since they caught them last weeks it's
been a drought people sellin tickets that usually worth 10 for 25 daaaaaammmnnn and to think i don't even do H

Possibly, why risk it?

my boy used to drive to philly and pick up a few bricks so he got me to try H a hand full of times i never got addicted to it but he was all fucked up on it i sold em a dime
the other day he skinny as hell but he's off the shit so thats whats up but if i was you i would only pick up a ticket or 2 a ticket with no tolereance is good for 2 people to get high
for like 3 hours

I tried it a while back, everyone on here was all "you're going to get addicted." It was very easy to stop, no idea what all the fuss is about.

If all you're willing to do is smoke powder, I'd just not fuck with heroin and stick with pain pills.


I've got 2 places, but I get my dope from Dayton OH(U.S.A).

Hmmmm. Okay. Yeah everything here in Los Angeles is black tar. Most of the time its suprisingly potent, but its also sometimes cut with instant coffee-which you can tell from the taste immediately.

On another note- I visited the methadone clinic yesterday. Theres one about 5 minutes away. I told them I was thinking of tapering off more and then doing the detox- because they told me the max dose they could give me for a 21 day detox was 40mg- and im pretty sure that if my 5'5" 125lb ex-gf started on 90mg, that its not gonna be enough for me. And the prospect of being stuck, sick for 4 or 5 days, not ABLE to pick up some black and get okay is kinda frightening. But then again so is this.

The lady at the clinic was very nice. I had talked to her on the phone for a bit about some questions I had regarding methdone and the program. When I got there I asked her if it was indeed more addictive, and similar questions. She just kept downplaying it. She basically said yes, it is more potent, it does stay in your body longer, the withdrawals are worse- but ITS NOT HEROIN. That and the fact that she kept pushing for the 300 dollar a month maintainance program after I told her I was basically homeless...kinda made me feel like I was at a car lot.

Im pretty sure im not gonna do this unless I get down to a really low dose soon and want to just stave off the temptation to use-agonist property. I like Metas idea better, and Im trying. But part of me feels like its just the addict in me trying to delay the inevitable. Its kinda sad that I dont even know anymore. Guess well see. Tomorrow im gonna try to do only .3


CaspeR

Wow that mother fucker that said if it "Happiness" was a single chemical, H would be it. I found out that days, weeks, even MONTHS of depression await you after doing heroin for awhile. Doing for your first time and asking on the internet if you will OD or not will not help you in your plight if you get involved with lady H. If you really think you can handle it, do it every ONCE and a while, moderation is the key but can also lead you to become a fuckin stupid 50 year old junkie. You also said you are going to do it with your friends, watch how you slowly begin to argue with them while your on dope. You will eventually hate them and not even want to chill with them unless your all getting high. What was awesome bliss in the begining is now becoming a mental hell. Soon youll want that bliss so bad, youll shoot it up eventually. I never got that far, I got off the train just in time, you should try the same or dont even fucking ride at all.

Why do all rockbands begin to suck? Because the rockstars in them start doing heroin and begin to suck at life.

Thats what heroin does, kid, its not like you thought anything good would come from it? Right? Right.................

Don't go on methadone man, I've seen it fuck up lives more than the H. It's pretty much impossible to stop and the withdrawls can kill you. And Clover, I see your point but there isn't anything BUT powder. I'm not the only person who's like that.

Oh, yea, I haven't been around for a few days, but yea, this. The withdrawal/addiction is as bad as heroin is good. Funny that it all balances out like that, isn't it?

Thus, the Magnesium. No guarantees, though, but the one guy I started of it, (someone I knew) said he was eating some Mg every day and as a result could get high of minimal amounts of H. Unfortunately, he got popped for some shit so I only got a few weeks worth of data from him. Anyone else care to be a guinea pig? If you want the scientitc backup for the theory, here it is: http://www.john-libbey-eurotext.fr/e.../7E/article.md

As for you recovering junkies out there, the ^^^ also says Mg relieves (partially, like at least a little) withdrawal symptoms. Go out and get some milk of magnesia. Considering you can buy it at the dollar store, it shouldn't be a problem for most. Just take the antacid dose. (It's sold as a laxative, but also as an antacid, where the antacid dose is like a third of the laxative dose) Either way it comes out to about 400 mg of Mg per day, ideally immediately before use of H.

Wouldn't it be awsome this this Mg thing works?