someone i know i recently acquired 50 mg of 2c-e. a friend of mine took a dose of 25mg and said it was legit, so i'm not worried about ingesting some random white powder.

erowid's vault sucks for 2c-e, and i'd rather not read some trip report bullshit.

anyway, my question is what is it comparable to?
i've done lsd once, mdma once, and mushrooms several times.

oh, and what is the likelihood of a bad trip? i i've had 2 bad trips and one horribly bad trip, all of which came from mushrooms.

yes i know... set and setting, but i'm always a paranoid fuck, even when not on drugs, and psychs always make me a tad anxious.

advice/comments/flames?

also, is 20$ too much for 50 mg?

$20's good for 50mgs, provided it's not cut...

2C-E has a very heavy body load for me and many of the people I know who have done it. Maybe it was an impurity in the batch we got, but I doubt it. Be ready to puke your first time out. 2C-E can be described as not having a euphoric push the way LSD does, it's more neutral or even dysphoric. This can lead to a bad trip in combination with how strange your body feels and the fact that you're puking your guts up. But in my opinion 2C-E is a raw psychedelic, no sugar coating like 2C-B or 2C-I, just straight mind fucking psychedlia. At common doses I find 2C-E more introspective and ego stripping than LSD or any of the halide 2C-Xs, and has visuals comparable to those of LSD.

If you're shit isn't cut you'd be stupid to do 25mgs your first time out even if you were a pretty solid acid tripper, 2C-E is mind fucking and the dosage scale is not linear, meaning that response curve rises quickly once you pass the 10mg mark.

Do yourself a favor, don't blow it...

Kinda sucks you only got 25mg to work with. My first time I got 100mg and could slowly build on doses to find the sweet spot. I had to take 35mg to trip, so it can be in an odd range, we're all different you know. It could ony be 10mg you need, so be careful.

My brother and I both tripped twice, and it always was the same. Didn't eat much before hand, threw up twice or three times at the 1 hour mark, and then the nausea got better as the trip progressed. I was ready for the worst, with no psych experience , only DXM, and no way should you have a bad trip, its easy on your mind, with good visuals, total mind fuck, just not that easy on the body but it gets better as the trip goes on, very fun though, you'll enjoy it, i promise, have a nice trip!

I've done 2C-E quite a few times in my day, never needed to go past 30mg for a REALLY strong experiance.

Id say eat the 25mg it should be an awesome time, I never experianced any nausea or anything either- I actually found it very easy on the body.

Also, its nothing like mushrooms...

25mgs of straight 2C-E is too big a dose for a first timer in my opinion. Erowid lists 25mgs as the heaviest of heavy doses, so you either had 2C-E that was cut or you got an eyeballed dose [which doesn't mean shit]. First time I really tripped sack on 2C-E, not just a light dose to have a good time on I got an eyeballed dose in a water bottle. I watched the dude eye it out, and he hooked it up fucking fat [ex-totse member]. I said to him, 'dude, I can't eye out doses, but that looks well more than 20mgs of powder' and he told me that it was about the amount he usually takes to get off and that I'd be able to handle it. Well, needless to say, we forgot to account for the fact that he was using lots of 2C-E, like a couple times a month at least. The dose he gave me had me tripping hard from 4 pm to 7 am. At the peak I was ++++, total ego loss, entity contact, ect... Be careful kids, this shit will rock you...

yea i have no intention of taking 25 mg of the stuff.
i was thinking maybe in the 12-15 range.

how are the mental effects?

is it more of an emotional ride or just a far-out mind fuck?
my friend who took it said it was the most intense trip he has had... but credibility is lacking.

he said it was slightly speedy and reminded him of mescaline.
would that be fair to say?

these questions might be dumb, but i want to know what i'm getting myself into.

I got one piece of advice for you, when you start to REALLY feel it, just calm down and take deep breaths if you start to get frightened; i can see it being a scary drug if you're not accepting of it. Just remember to accept your new reality, chill and find your happy place, or I could see it turning south on you real quick.

It feels a lot like acid, with the wavy visuals (more cloudy and vibrational I find) and a tremendous sense of not living life on the "same level" anymore. It also feels like E, in the sense that vision becomes extremely acute and focused on small indiscrepancies in textures, and overall more vibrant in color. Familiar objects seem to look extremely alien and unfamiliar. One person's trip report decribed it as seeing cross-sections of 3d objects and watching objects age 100 years before your eyes, I think it decribes it quite well. Usually the onset of the trip consists of the typical 2c patterns and shapes coming from 2d surfaces before it launches you into a completely unexpected level.

Usually it's $1 per mg around here. Put 30 mgs in a shot glass of water and you won't regret it. It's straight 8 hours of nonsense. Fun in the end, to say the least.

Well then your oppinion doesn't mean shit cause you don't even know the dose you took, could have been well over 25mg.

25mg is fine for a first timer with prior experiance with shrooms and LSD, at least in my experiance.

If you're gunna go, go big...

25mg isn't too big of a dose, just a strong first time dose. After tripping on it a lot, 25mg doses started becoming too much for me. I settled in around 15-20 mg's.

You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Do not recommend people to take heavy dosages there first time with a new RC. This is how people end up in the hospital. Always start small with a new drug, what if your system is particularity sensitive to phenethylamines. 25mgs may end up being the perfect dose for the OP, but what if 12mgs is and he has to find that out the hard way? With a drug as mind shattering as 2C-E and overdose can end in a bad situation.

I'm not the most experience RC user on totse, but I do know my fair share about them and have done decent quantities of a large number of them. And I have done measured amounts of 2C-E out of the same batch I was 'overdosed' on. I'm saying that the dose I had was between 25-35 mgs.

OP, I think a good dose to start at would be like you said, between 12-15mg range, maybe even just 10mgs. I know that myself and other people have gotten ++ off of 10mgs of clean 2C-E. Now heed warning, a lot of RC suppliers sell cut down RCs, and if you're getting it from a dealer it may be cut again. But if you do get the pure shit and take a fatty dose without much experience you're probably going to get your ass beat by the mescalito.

2C-E is speedy and heady. I feel really tweaked and spun on 2C-E, I'd say a 16mg oral dose has the same tweak to it as blowing double the amount of amphetamine. But it's not a focused euphoric tweak, it's more like hooking an impact wrench to the crank of your brain and artificially turning your motor over tweak. The visuals are unbelievable in my opinion, make acid look like child's play, but I haven't taken as big of doses of LSD as I have RCs because of cost. As fret buzz said, it feels like operating on a different level of functioning, more instinctual and animal thoughts. The visuals for me are very geometrical the way LSD is, but much more intense and circularly and hydraulically connected. I guess the best way I could describe 2C-E visuals is the word slipping.

anyway to know if it is cut prior to ingestion? it came in 2 capsules which weren't completely filled, and there is a chalky residue on the sides. it could just be the 2c-e, but i thought i read somewhere on totse that that shouldn't happen. different RC, 2c-i i believe.

i know rc's aren't well studied, but is there any info regarding health effects from them? links would be appreciated.

all the help and advice is deserving of many thank yous.

Yeah I take back 30mgs for a first time. I did 30mg my first time and I was over the top, in over my head tripping fucknuts. Up until I did 2c-e, lsd was the most intense drug I'd ever done. 2c-e makes lsd look like Ibuprofen, you don't even know what you're getting yourself into.

It's funny because while I was peaking I told myself I'd never do 2c-e again and tried to go to sleep at that point, but the drug wouldn't let me. It was like I was all ready asleep and trapped in a cloudy dream-world where anything was possible. It feels like you're always "on the edge" of existence and someone is turning the pages of your life's storybook for you. After the peak passed though and the trip wasn't as intense, I started to enjoy it more and eventually wanted to try it again after I came down. But no drug I've ever ingested compares to that initial 2c-e peak. It came on really gentle with harmless visuals and patterns but then once the nausia hit and I puked a few times, in the span of about 20 seconds I suddenly found myself bumped up 6 or 7 levels, so to speak.

One word I can use to decribe it.. dabble. You dabble in the depths of your own existence. A first timer should do 20mg - 30mg if you're experienced with psychedelics.

Not at all, you must get some bunk LSD. 2c-e is damn intense and will shatter your ego, but so will LSD.

I'd rate them pretty much equal, apart from the fact that LSD feels a little bit safer because its use has been studied more and the amount to potentially overdose on is so huge theres no chance of a regular person taking enought to die from.

Whereas, on 2c-e, shit can get a little scary when you realize you're on a level 4 trip on some experimental chemical not much is known about. I had a trip where I took 50mg and was convinced I was already dead... it got out of hand because there wasn't that safty net like on LSD where you can just tell yourself "noones ever died from taking LSD."

2c-e is a very powerful drug, but saying it makes LSD look like ibuprofen is a total joke. Maybe one day you'll get to try some real LSD dude, then report back...

I know what you mean about thinking you're all ready dead and not being sure you're going to come out ok. That's what I was most afraid of during the peak. The fact that I did find myself in this intensely crazy state of mind and not knowing if my body could take it. Looking back on it I think I would be much more comfortable during the peak, knowing I'd come through it fine once before.

The ibuprofen reference was an exaggeration to put it into perspective, but still I think 2c-e is much more intense, and I've been in some intense acid trips. My first thought when I started to really peak was, "Oh damn, what did I just get myself into?This goes way beyond acid." It's interesting because my friend said the same thing when he started peaking hard. I was still coming up and was just seeing shapes and patterns when he said that and so I naively disagreed, thinking the whole trip was just going to be trippy diamond patterns appearing on everything. 2c-e shook the foundation of my reality. So does LSD but, in my humble opinion, nowhere near as hard.

This exact same thing happened to me on my big dose of 2C-E and it was at this point I reached a ++++ experience. I laid there in my bed, swearing I had died and was in hell and was contacted by the mescalito, the spanish god of mescaline. The mescalito had my voice and was a christ like holy figure that looked like a morphing me. He basically laid out in front of me everything I had ever done in my life, highlighting the good and the bad and showed me the secrets in death. He then made me forget all of the words he had said and left me only remembering the feelings his words had evoked. Then this is the only thing I remember the mescalito inside me saying, he said, 'or you can put me down and never touch me again'. And I obeyed, for a while, but I will never exceed 20 mgs ever again and haven't gone past 16mgs since and even that was a bit of a difficult experience.

On the edge of existence is a great way to put it I think. I always feel 2C-E puts me on a breaking point, but idk how to describe it past that.

The someone else turning the pages of lifes book is another great description I feel. That someone is the mescalito, the spanish god of mescaline.

This.

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There's no easy way to tell it's purity, and my 2C-E has always been chalky, as has my 2ci.

I've found no conclusive evidence that 2C-E is bad for your health, although it is my belief that it is permanently conscience altering. The boundaries between where the trip start and end are extremely hazy. It took me about a year to put myself back together completely after my large 2C-E dose and I'm still not back to one hundred percent of what I was before I ate the dose and I don't think I ever will be.

Where to start.

Ummm.

2C-e, I'd go with 20mg for a first trip. I took 20mg my first time with no tripping experience, so you'll be fine after taking LSD and shrooms.

As people have said, prepare to vomit. Some people don't, I do.

Anyone who says they can't trip off less than 30mg or whatever, you got some cut 2C-e you fucking clueless cunt. Ummm, yeah there's quite a bodyload. For the first hour you'll regret it, the next 7-10 hours you'll have the time of your life.

Fuck, can't remember what else you asked...

afaik there's little to no health risks, I've taken 50+ doses of RCs within the space of about 2 months, and I was sweet. That's all I can help with really, I'm not going to look for links for you, do it yourself.

Eat it, snorting it will hurt. IV it if you're fucking hard.

Oh, and yeah 2C-e makes LSD look like fucking cut ibuprofen. And no, I didn't get bunk LSD, you probably just got shit 2C-e. LSD is nowhere near as much of a mindfuck as 2C-e, it's very friendly in comparison.

Also, why are you on Totse? Fucking take your RCs. Or send them to me, I'd kill for some of that shit here at the moment.

The 2c-e I get is a blue powder that has the chemical odor equivalent to a permanent marker.

lol?

Really?

Straight from the MSDS:

COLOR: WHITE
ODOR: NONE

*Odour

And it does have a smell, like all drugs, you just have to not be an idiot. I can smell ritalin from the other side of a room.

But blue and like a marker? Fuck eating that shit.

Yeah most chems have some distinguishable odour, but according to the MSDS, a sample of the highest possible purity shouldn't have one.

To the guy that actually has that blue shit: Buy one of stupid noobs reagent kits maybe. And the smell (random uneducated guessing) could be from some sloppy ass synth.